Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1027
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:01:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Thursday 13 January 2005
 Number  1027
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Subjects for today
 
1   OT: Linux Terminal Server : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
2  Re:  Attn Bigpond users : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re:  Attn Bigpond users : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
4  Re:  Attn Bigpond users : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
5  Re:  Attn Bigpond users : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
6  Re:  Attn Bigpond users : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
7  Re:  Attn Bigpond users : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
8   HPFS386 and Static IP : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
9  Re:  HPFS386 and Static IP : Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
10  Re:  HPFS386 and Static IP : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
11  Re:  HPFS386 and Static IP : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
12  Re:  HPFS386 and Static IP : Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>

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Date:  Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:03:00 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   OT: Linux Terminal Server

Hi All,

   Has anyone on this list had any experience with Linux Terminal server 
? Apparently it's supposed to be the "Citrix Link" thin client solution 
for the Linux world.

   Does it work reliably ?

   Could it be compiled/ported for use on OS2/eCS or is it to entangled 
with the Linux OS ?

   The reason I ask this is that SVista is supposed to be able to work 
as a Linux Terminal Services app (also a citrix app), so that I could 
run OS/2 withing SVista and "host" it using Linux Terminal Services.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:27:19 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Attn Bigpond users

Hi Mike,

Did you give them a call?  It may be that they have had trouble making 
your line ADSL enabled.  When I applied for my connection, the 
connection tester came back as 'maybe available' as I am well within 
reach of the exchange, but there was something with the line that wasn't 
right.  I don't know what it was,  however the line went dead for about 
5 minutes then came back on with ADSL support enabled.  I'm guessing 
there was a problem at their end.

Cheers
G

Mike O'Connor wrote:

> Paul Smedley wrote:
>
>> Hi all Bigpond users..
>>
>> Use a FYI that I got a call from Bigpond on Monday to let me know 
>> that months after I requested it, comp.os.os2.ecomstation is finally 
>> available on the Bigpond News Server.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Paul.
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
>>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Thanks for the availability news.
> Unfortunately, here, as a non-Bigpond member, who applied on Dec 15th 
> for the $0 connection to ADSL, and yesterday receieved [just] the 
> following from them:
>
>    Dear BigPond(tm) Member,
>
>    Reference Details:
>    Your Order Number is: 06abcde
>
>    For ADSL applications, the telephone service number you provided is:
>    (07) 55248670
>
>    The purpose of this email is to advise that your BigPond Broadband
>    application has now been cancelled.
>
>    If you have any further enquiries, please do not hesitate to contact
>    one of our consultants on 1800 246 872, Mon - Fri, 8:00am - 10:00pm
>    (EST).
>
>    Yours faithfully,
>
>    The BigPond Team
>    
> __________________________________________________________________________ 
>
>
>    (tm) Trademark of Telstra Corporation Limited ABN 33 051 775 556
>
> [what reason was quoted??]
>
> That's not what I would consider good PR from Telestra/Bigpond!
> Especially as they had it noted that preferred contact was via e-mail!

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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:24:01 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Attn Bigpond users

Gavin Miller wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> Did you give them a call?  It may be that they have had trouble making 
> your line ADSL enabled.  When I applied for my connection, the 
> connection tester came back as 'maybe available' as I am well within 
> reach of the exchange, but there was something with the line that 
> wasn't right.  I don't know what it was,  however the line went dead 
> for about 5 minutes then came back on with ADSL support enabled.  I'm 
> guessing there was a problem at their end.
>
> Cheers
> G
>
> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>
>> Paul Smedley wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all Bigpond users..
>>>
>>> Use a FYI that I got a call from Bigpond on Monday to let me know 
>>> that months after I requested it, comp.os.os2.ecomstation is finally 
>>> available on the Bigpond News Server.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Paul.
 
>>>
>>> 

>>>
>>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> Thanks for the availability news.
>> Unfortunately, here, as a non-Bigpond member, who applied on Dec 15th 
>> for the $0 connection to ADSL, and yesterday receieved [just] the 
>> following from them:
>>
>>    Dear BigPond(tm) Member,
>>
>>    Reference Details:
>>    Your Order Number is: 06abcde
>>
>>    For ADSL applications, the telephone service number you provided is:
>>    (07) 55248670
>>
>>    The purpose of this email is to advise that your BigPond Broadband
>>    application has now been cancelled.
>>
>>    If you have any further enquiries, please do not hesitate to contact
>>    one of our consultants on 1800 246 872, Mon - Fri, 8:00am - 10:00pm
>>    (EST).
>>
>>    Yours faithfully,
>>
>>    The BigPond Team
>>    
>> __________________________________________________________________________ 
>>
>>
>>    (tm) Trademark of Telstra Corporation Limited ABN 33 051 775 556
>>
>> [what reason was quoted??]
>>
>> That's not what I would consider good PR from Telestra/Bigpond!
>> Especially as they had it noted that preferred contact was via e-mail!
>

Hi Gavin,

I hadn't rung them yet - as I'm an hour behind local time [not observing 
NSW AEDT!], it was a bit late to call Telstra Country Wide first to 
complain about the offhand way the notification was delivered, bad PR!

I heard unofficially on one query I made that it was due to pair-gains 
signal quality, but later was given the information that the problem 
wasn't the line quality, but lack of connection capability in the Banora 
Point exchange!

Will probably find out what the actual excuse is later today.

-- 
Regards,
Mike

Failed the exam for
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MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert
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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:39:34 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  Attn Bigpond users

Hi Gavin

I think the point is they didnt say what it was in the email :-(

I make it a policy at Primus to always tell the customer why ADSL provisioing
failed on the line

General emails follow which are normally edited before being sent to our
customer with the failed line. It does go over many customers heads but at
least we told them.

               ====================

Dear 

Thank you for your e-mail and interest in our HomeJet ADSL service.

A search on your phone line has been unsuccessful.

ADSL applications can be rejected for a number of reasons. Below is your line rejection reasons and explanation. 

<< **PLEASE CHOOSE THE APPROPRIATE REJECTION REASON** >>

Incompatible Infrastructure - RIM
A RIM (Remote Integrated Multiplexer) is a device installed by Telstra when they are not enough physical lines between a customers premise and their exchange. A RIM has a set of customers lines running into it and then a piece of fibre optical cable running from it to the exchange. Unfortunately ADSL will not work if you are on a RIM. 

(or)
Incompatible Infrastructure - PGS
PGS is a Pair Gain System. A Pair Gain is when a physical copper line has been virtually split in 2. This is perfectly fine for voice however this will not work for ADSL. If you have a Pair Gain, you will either need to organize a new telephone line with your telephone provider or organize to have your existing telephone repaired via a process called manual transpositioning.

Manual Transpositioning

In some rare cases, it is possible to fix the PGS problem.   The success rate is only 1 in 20 (5 percent.)   To inquire about manual transpositioning, please call our sales team on 1300 85 48 48.

(or)
Incompatible Infrastructure - Sub Exchange
A Sub Exchange is like RIM. The same scenario applies.

(or)
Invalid Service Number - Inactive Service
An Inactive Service Number means that the number you have provided to us for ADSL is not connected. This will need to be checked with your telephone provider. If you have just had a new connect installed then we can retry in 7-10 days.

(or)
Address/Service Mismatch
The Address and Telephone Number you have given us, does not match the details Telstra has on their system. Due to the Privacy Act, Telstra cannot give us your personal information. This would need to be checked with your telephone provider.

(or)
Transmission loss to high
Unfortunately Telstra have tested your line and found you are too far from the exchange to receive ADSL at the chosen speed. 

(or)
Invalid Service Number - Non Telstra Service (PSTS)
The telephone number you have given us, is not a Telstra service. ADSL can only be installed on a copper pair. Some telephony providers will install a different telephone line to what Telstra does. Unfortunately ADSL will not work on anything but a copper pair.

(or)
DSL Incompatible with PSTS Product
There is a product on your telephone line that is not compatible with ADSL. 
You will need to check with your telephony provider to check what this product maybe, and to have it removed.  This can also occur if there is DSL with another provider on that service number.

(or)
You currently have codes on the line, these codes need to be removed before we can offer you iPrimus ADSL. You will need to call 1800 150436 to have these codes removed, and you must be the legal lessee of the service.

You can contact Telstra via http://www.telstra dot com dot au/demand/index.cfm to register interest in ADSL if your local exchange is not enabled, or you have a RIM or other device stopping you from having ADSL access.

Your telephone number check has returned a Manual result, in this case it states that your line is a Pair Gained line. To see if Telstra, who own the local copper network can change your Pair Gained line for a single line that can be provisioned for ADSL, you would need to register for ADSL so that we could place the work order with Telstra. There is no charge to you for the work to replace the Pair Gained line if it can be done, and if we are still unable to provide you with ADSL then once more, there is no cost to you from our side.

Often many people have Pair Gain telephone lines, this means that the single copper line is split into two due to lack of copper in your area, sometimes a pair gain line will terminate in the one residence, if it does then its a simple matter of removing the pair gain to end up with one line which can often have ADSL provided on it but if the other half of the pair gain line ends at a different residential address, then a completely new line would need to be laid between your front door and the local exchange. This may not be feasable but once more it is something that is up to Telstra to provide.

Our primary checks only tell us with 95% certainty that your local exchange is ADSL enabled. When we register an ADSL plan for you, we then do a full check using the Telstra database which will often return a Pass, or a Manual result, with Manual results we can often still provide you with ADSL but this also means that Telstra who own the local copper loop, will be required to do some work on your line.

It is unfortunate but until we place the work order with Telstra to have a line provisioned for ADSL, we often will not have a reason or knowledge that we cannot provide ADSL until a work order is rejected by Telstra.

In the case of a RIM device, this also means finding an alternate route for your phone line as most people on standard RIM's cannot have ADSL, which requires a full copper line from your front door back to your local exchange. A RIM is a mini exchange unit that often has a fibre optic cable that runs back to a main Exchange due to the lack of copper, or the distance of a new or upgraded suburb from a main telephone exchange.

Your Telephone exchange is not currently a Primus enabled Telephone Exchange.

We have checked your telephone number for line length from your local exchange, and you unfortunetly exceed the 1.5Km distance to provision that line for 2Mb ADSL. The new iPrimus 2MB ADSL Plans are only available to new customers that are located within 1.5km of a Primus enabled exchange. 

If you have any further queries about our pricing, setup & installation options or contract period please refer to our web site or call us on 1300 85 48 48.  If replying via e-mail, please leave your original request included.  This is automatically done in most email programs.

Regards

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

There are very few personal problems that cannot be solved through a suitable application of high explosives.
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:07:05 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  Attn Bigpond users

And before someone responds, yes, RIM's can be upgraded to provide ADSL
but we are trying to keep the email simple, and it is up to Telstra.

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:39:34 +1100 (EDT), Ian Manners wrote:

> Hi Gavin
> 
> I think the point is they didnt say what it was in the email :-(
> 
> I make it a policy at Primus to always tell the customer why ADSL provisioing
> failed on the line
> 
> General emails follow which are normally edited before being sent to our
> customer with the failed line. It does go over many customers heads but at
> least we told them.
> 
> 
>                ====================
> 
> Dear 
> 
> Thank you for your e-mail and interest in our HomeJet ADSL service.
> 
> A search on your phone line has been unsuccessful.
> 
> ADSL applications can be rejected for a number of reasons. Below is your line rejection reasons and explanation. 
> 
> << **PLEASE CHOOSE THE APPROPRIATE REJECTION REASON** >>
> 
> Incompatible Infrastructure - RIM
> A RIM (Remote Integrated Multiplexer) is a device installed by Telstra when they are not enough physical lines between a customers premise and their exchange. A RIM has a set of customers lines running into it and then a piece of fibre optical cable running from it to the exchange. Unfortunately ADSL will not work if you are on a RIM. 
> 
> (or)
> Incompatible Infrastructure - PGS
> PGS is a Pair Gain System. A Pair Gain is when a physical copper line has been virtually split in 2. This is perfectly fine for voice however this will not work for ADSL. If you have a Pair Gain, you will either need to organize a new telephone line with your telephone provider or organize to have your existing telephone repaired via a process called manual transpositioning.
> 
> Manual Transpositioning
> 
> In some rare cases, it is possible to fix the PGS problem.   The success rate is only 1 in 20 (5 percent.)   To inquire about manual transpositioning, please call our sales team on 1300 85 48 48.
> 
> (or)
> Incompatible Infrastructure - Sub Exchange
> A Sub Exchange is like RIM. The same scenario applies.
> 
> (or)
> Invalid Service Number - Inactive Service
> An Inactive Service Number means that the number you have provided to us for ADSL is not connected. This will need to be checked with your telephone provider. If you have just had a new connect installed then we can retry in 7-10 days.
> 
> (or)
> Address/Service Mismatch
> The Address and Telephone Number you have given us, does not match the details Telstra has on their system. Due to the Privacy Act, Telstra cannot give us your personal information. This would need to be checked with your telephone provider.
> 
> (or)
> Transmission loss to high
> Unfortunately Telstra have tested your line and found you are too far from the exchange to receive ADSL at the chosen speed. 
> 
> (or)
> Invalid Service Number - Non Telstra Service (PSTS)
> The telephone number you have given us, is not a Telstra service. ADSL can only be installed on a copper pair. Some telephony providers will install a different telephone line to what Telstra does. Unfortunately ADSL will not work on anything but a copper pair.
> 
> (or)
> DSL Incompatible with PSTS Product
> There is a product on your telephone line that is not compatible with ADSL. 
> You will need to check with your telephony provider to check what this product maybe, and to have it removed.  This can also occur if there is DSL with another provider on that service number.
> 
> (or)
> You currently have codes on the line, these codes need to be removed before we can offer you iPrimus ADSL. You will need to call 1800 150436 to have these codes removed, and you must be the legal lessee of the service.
> 
> You can contact Telstra via http://www.telstra dot com dot au/demand/index.cfm to register interest in ADSL if your local exchange is not enabled, or you have a RIM or other device stopping you from having ADSL access.
> 
> Your telephone number check has returned a Manual result, in this case it states that your line is a Pair Gained line. To see if Telstra, who own the local copper network can change your Pair Gained line for a single line that can be provisioned for ADSL, you would need to register for ADSL so that we could place the work order with Telstra. There is no charge to you for the work to replace the Pair Gained line if it can be done, and if we are still unable to provide you with ADSL then once more, there is no cost to you from our side.
> 
> Often many people have Pair Gain telephone lines, this means that the single copper line is split into two due to lack of copper in your area, sometimes a pair gain line will terminate in the one residence, if it does then its a simple matter of removing the pair gain to end up with one line which can often have ADSL provided on it but if the other half of the pair gain line ends at a different residential address, then a completely new line would need to be laid between your front door and the local exchange. This may not be feasable but once more it is something that is up to Telstra to provide.
> 
> Our primary checks only tell us with 95% certainty that your local exchange is ADSL enabled. When we register an ADSL plan for you, we then do a full check using the Telstra database which will often return a Pass, or a Manual result, with Manual results we can often still provide you with ADSL but this also means that Telstra who own the local copper loop, will be required to do some work on your line.
> 
> It is unfortunate but until we place the work order with Telstra to have a line provisioned for ADSL, we often will not have a reason or knowledge that we cannot provide ADSL until a work order is rejected by Telstra.
> 
> In the case of a RIM device, this also means finding an alternate route for your phone line as most people on standard RIM's cannot have ADSL, which requires a full copper line from your front door back to your local exchange. A RIM is a mini exchange unit that often has a fibre optic cable that runs back to a main Exchange due to the lack of copper, or the distance of a new or upgraded suburb from a main telephone exchange.
> 
> Your Telephone exchange is not currently a Primus enabled Telephone Exchange.
> 
> We have checked your telephone number for line length from your local exchange, and you unfortunetly exceed the 1.5Km distance to provision that line for 2Mb ADSL. The new iPrimus 2MB ADSL Plans are only available to new customers that are located within 1.5km of a Primus enabled exchange. 
> 
> If you have any further queries about our pricing, setup & installation options or contract period please refer to our web site or call us on 1300 85 48 48.  If replying via e-mail, please leave your original request included.  This is automatically done in most email programs.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Ian Manners
> http://www.os2site dot com/
> 
> There are very few personal problems that cannot be solved through a suitable application of high explosives.

>  

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

Netscape.exe... Bad file name... May we suggest M/S Internet Explorer? (Y/y)
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:46:48 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Attn Bigpond users

Yes I do agree; quite rude indeed.  I guess it dependes on who you're 
dealing with and the kind of day they've had.  I can't say I've had this 
problem with Testra.  They've always obliged to explain when needed.  
Except once; but we won't go into that  ;-)

Cheers
G

Ian Manners wrote:

>Hi Gavin
>
>I think the point is they didnt say what it was in the email :-(
>  
>
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:50:08 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Attn Bigpond users

Eeeek... my spelling is atrocious today.  All fixed below...

Gavin Miller wrote:

> Yes I do agree; quite rude indeed.  I guess it depends on who you're 
> dealing with and the kind of day they've had.  I can't say I've had 
> this problem with Telstra.  They've always obliged to explain when 
> needed.  Except once; but we won't go into that  ;-)
>
> Cheers
> G
>
> Ian Manners wrote:
>
>> Hi Gavin
>>
>> I think the point is they didnt say what it was in the email :-(
>>  
>>
 
>
> 

>
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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:46:48 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:   HPFS386 and Static IP

I've just been having a look at Web/2, and while perusing their forum I 
saw recommendations to ditch HPFS and install HPFS386 instead. There was 
even a link to it.

Has HPFS been made freely available. And if so why didn't eCS 1.2 have 
it as an option?

If it is freely available, are there any gotcha's or problems with LVM?

Also, as I said I was having a look at Web/2, because it suddenly dawned 
on me that my broadband connection has a static IP address. Therefore I 
should be able to set up a web server.

And I was researching what would be required.

I tried http'ing the address and arrived at my modem web server.

Now I assume I have to
1    Install Web/2
2    turn off port 80 on the WAN side
3   Set up the site
And all is well, except for the important things that I'm ignorant of.

I have a 4 port Router-Modem, I also have a 4 port router
Which is the better organization

Modem-Router connects to a dedicated computer for the Server and to the 
other router.
This second router has the house networked computers.

or

Just the single router/modem and the dedicated computer connected to the 
last slot.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Regards

Dennis.

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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:13:18 +1100
From:  Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
Subject:  Re:  HPFS386 and Static IP

Hi Dennis

As far as I am aware hpfs386 is not free and only comes with the server 
version of OS/2.

BTW you don't need a fixed IP to run a web server. I run one and 
currently my ISP changes my IP at least twice a day. I wrote my own 
program (zeupd) to update my IP address at zone-edit which provides the 
DNS for my web site.

The best way to connect is    Internet --  modem -- firewall PC -- 
router/switch -- internal PCs

Remember if all PCs are connected to the modem/router then your Internet 
connection is in effect in the middle of your network.

You might have to configure your modem to forward port 80 through to you 
internal web/2 server. When you do get it set up try running shields-up 
against it to see what is open. (www.grc dot com)

regards
Ken

Dennis Nolan wrote:

> I've just been having a look at Web/2, and while perusing their forum 
> I saw recommendations to ditch HPFS and install HPFS386 instead. There 
> was even a link to it.
>
> Has HPFS been made freely available. And if so why didn't eCS 1.2 have 
> it as an option?
>
> If it is freely available, are there any gotcha's or problems with LVM?
>
> Also, as I said I was having a look at Web/2, because it suddenly 
> dawned on me that my broadband connection has a static IP address. 
> Therefore I should be able to set up a web server.
>
> And I was researching what would be required.
>
> I tried http'ing the address and arrived at my modem web server.
>
> Now I assume I have to
> 1    Install Web/2
> 2    turn off port 80 on the WAN side
> 3   Set up the site
> And all is well, except for the important things that I'm ignorant of.
>
> I have a 4 port Router-Modem, I also have a 4 port router
> Which is the better organization
>
> Modem-Router connects to a dedicated computer for the Server and to 
> the other router.
> This second router has the house networked computers.
>
> or
>
> Just the single router/modem and the dedicated computer connected to 
> the last slot.
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> Dennis.
>
 
>
> 

>
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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:51:58 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  HPFS386 and Static IP

Thanks Ken

I assume that the firewall PC requires two network cards, which isn't a 
problem as I have a couple of spares.

Regards

Dennis.

Ken Laurie wrote:

> Hi Dennis
>
> As far as I am aware hpfs386 is not free and only comes with the 
> server version of OS/2.
>
> BTW you don't need a fixed IP to run a web server. I run one and 
> currently my ISP changes my IP at least twice a day. I wrote my own 
> program (zeupd) to update my IP address at zone-edit which provides 
> the DNS for my web site.
>
> The best way to connect is    Internet --  modem -- firewall PC -- 
> router/switch -- internal PCs
>
> Remember if all PCs are connected to the modem/router then your 
> Internet connection is in effect in the middle of your network.
>
> You might have to configure your modem to forward port 80 through to 
> you internal web/2 server. When you do get it set up try running 
> shields-up against it to see what is open. (www.grc dot com)
>
> regards
> Ken
>
> Dennis Nolan wrote:
>
>> I've just been having a look at Web/2, and while perusing their forum 
>> I saw recommendations to ditch HPFS and install HPFS386 instead. 
>> There was even a link to it.
>>
>> Has HPFS been made freely available. And if so why didn't eCS 1.2 
>> have it as an option?
>>
>> If it is freely available, are there any gotcha's or problems with LVM?
>>
>> Also, as I said I was having a look at Web/2, because it suddenly 
>> dawned on me that my broadband connection has a static IP address. 
>> Therefore I should be able to set up a web server.
>>
>> And I was researching what would be required.
>>
>> I tried http'ing the address and arrived at my modem web server.
>>
>> Now I assume I have to
>> 1    Install Web/2
>> 2    turn off port 80 on the WAN side
>> 3   Set up the site
>> And all is well, except for the important things that I'm ignorant of.
>>
>> I have a 4 port Router-Modem, I also have a 4 port router
>> Which is the better organization
>>
>> Modem-Router connects to a dedicated computer for the Server and to 
>> the other router.
>> This second router has the house networked computers.
>>
>> or
>>
>> Just the single router/modem and the dedicated computer connected to 
>> the last slot.
>>
>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Dennis.
>>
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
 
>
> 

>
>
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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:25:36 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  HPFS386 and Static IP

Ken Laurie schreef:

> Hi Dennis
>
> As far as I am aware hpfs386 is not free and only comes with the 
> server version of OS/2.
>
Even worse, it CAME with the server version.

As it stands now (and since ± 1999, WseB), you would have to pay a 1000 
USD in order to get the "full package" (mainly an M$ fee really), which 
is simply ridiculous a price for a bunch of files with 1991/92 outdated 
technology.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:51:22 +1100
From:  Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
Subject:  Re:  HPFS386 and Static IP

Dennis

Yes, two cards are required. One will be for the trusted network, use an 
IP address range only for the trusted network (say 10.10.10.0/24). The 
other nic being untrusted, should have a different IP address range (say 
10.10.250.0/24). I have mine set up in this manner and I use injoy 
firewall to protect everything inside. I run apache, php, mysql and 
phpnuke for my web server on the machine with the firewall. This way I 
only have one machine on all the time.

I also run weasel for mail. I also run squid on this machine as it acts 
as a proxy for the rest of the network. If you don't run a proxy you 
will need to turn on ip forwarding on this machine.

regards
Ken

Dennis Nolan wrote:

> Thanks Ken
>
> I assume that the firewall PC requires two network cards, which isn't 
> a problem as I have a couple of spares.
>
> Regards
>
> Dennis.
>
> Ken Laurie wrote:
>
>> Hi Dennis
>>
>> As far as I am aware hpfs386 is not free and only comes with the 
>> server version of OS/2.
>>
>> BTW you don't need a fixed IP to run a web server. I run one and 
>> currently my ISP changes my IP at least twice a day. I wrote my own 
>> program (zeupd) to update my IP address at zone-edit which provides 
>> the DNS for my web site.
>>
>> The best way to connect is    Internet --  modem -- firewall PC -- 
>> router/switch -- internal PCs
>>
>> Remember if all PCs are connected to the modem/router then your 
>> Internet connection is in effect in the middle of your network.
>>
>> You might have to configure your modem to forward port 80 through to 
>> you internal web/2 server. When you do get it set up try running 
>> shields-up against it to see what is open. (www.grc dot com)
>>
>> regards
>> Ken
>>
>> Dennis Nolan wrote:
>>
>>> I've just been having a look at Web/2, and while perusing their 
>>> forum I saw recommendations to ditch HPFS and install HPFS386 
>>> instead. There was even a link to it.
>>>
>>> Has HPFS been made freely available. And if so why didn't eCS 1.2 
>>> have it as an option?
>>>
>>> If it is freely available, are there any gotcha's or problems with LVM?
>>>
>>> Also, as I said I was having a look at Web/2, because it suddenly 
>>> dawned on me that my broadband connection has a static IP address. 
>>> Therefore I should be able to set up a web server.
>>>
>>> And I was researching what would be required.
>>>
>>> I tried http'ing the address and arrived at my modem web server.
>>>
>>> Now I assume I have to
>>> 1    Install Web/2
>>> 2    turn off port 80 on the WAN side
>>> 3   Set up the site
>>> And all is well, except for the important things that I'm ignorant of.
>>>
>>> I have a 4 port Router-Modem, I also have a 4 port router
>>> Which is the better organization
>>>
>>> Modem-Router connects to a dedicated computer for the Server and to 
>>> the other router.
>>> This second router has the house networked computers.
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> Just the single router/modem and the dedicated computer connected to 
>>> the last slot.
>>>
>>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Dennis.
>>>
 
>>>
>>> 

>>>
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