Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1017
From: Digest <deadmail>
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 00:01:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Wednesday 29 December 2004
 Number  1017
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
2   Mozilla vs Staroffice : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re:  MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
4  Re:  Mozilla vs Staroffice : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
5  Re:  Mozilla vs Staroffice : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
6  Re:  Mozilla vs Staroffice : nickl at pacific dot net dot au
7  Re:  MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
8  Re:  MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re:  Mozilla vs Staroffice : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
10  Re:  Mozilla vs Staroffice : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
11  Re:  MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters : David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>

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Date:  Wed, 29 Dec 2004 09:54:47 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters

To one and all

It seems that there are at least 2 versions of eCS v1.2 out there.  May 
I impose of as many of you as possible to check your MINSTALL.  All you 
need to do is get an eCS command line and enter MINSTALL.  Will you 
please let me know if that yields a graphical MINSTALL window or a text 
one.  Also, please state whether or not your eCS is from downloaded 
..ISOs or from bought disks.

Thanx heaps in advance
Kev

ps  Happy new year all (and the one) in case I forget closer to the day.

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Date:  Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:13:42 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   Mozilla vs Staroffice

Hi all,

As of late I am unable to run Mozilla 1.7 and Staroffice 5.1a 
simultaneously.  If I run staroffice first,  an error window will popup 
about mozilla's path not found or a host of other possible errors ( you 
know the popup I mean ).  If I run Mozilla first, SO won't let me open 
documents or create new documents.  Anyone know why?  Also I've set SO 
to NOT use the internet.  Could that be a reason?  And finally, does 
anyone suggest switching to the beta of open office/2 and how does it's 
milage compare to SO 5.1?

Cheers
G
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Date:  Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:26:31 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters

Kev wrote:

> To one and all
>
> It seems that there are at least 2 versions of eCS v1.2 out there.  
> May I impose of as many of you as possible to check your MINSTALL.  
> All you need to do is get an eCS command line and enter MINSTALL.  
> Will you please let me know if that yields a graphical MINSTALL window 
> or a text one.  Also, please state whether or not your eCS is from 
> downloaded .ISOs or from bought disks.
>
> Thanx heaps in advance
> Kev
>
> ps  Happy new year all (and the one) in case I forget closer to the day.

Hi Kev,

[attached privately is a GIF of what happened here on my eCS 1.2 GA {CD 
version} booting from a JFS-drive]

I only installed from CD#1 - so far, so hadn't activated MINSTALL - the 
UniAudio picked up my AOpen AW320 during installation and configured it 
properly.

Running MINSTALL in a VIO window generated the following:

[E:\]minstall
MINSTALL - Multimedia Installer (CLI/CID) - by Kiewitz
Successfully executed GUI installer

[E:\]

which was overlaid with the GUI Installer - ending with "Please select 
the  NEXT button below to begin"

HTH

-- 
Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:46:12 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Mozilla vs Staroffice

Hi Gavin

Gavin Miller wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> As of late I am unable to run Mozilla 1.7 and Staroffice 5.1a 
> simultaneously.  If I run staroffice first,  an error window will popup 
> about mozilla's path not found or a host of other possible errors ( you 
> know the popup I mean ).  If I run Mozilla first, SO won't let me open 
> documents or create new documents.  Anyone know why?  Also I've set SO 
> to NOT use the internet.  Could that be a reason?

Can't help here, but ...

   And finally, does
> anyone suggest switching to the beta of open office/2 and how does it's 
> milage compare to SO 5.1?

I gave OO a go and it seems fine, except that it's crippled.  I can't 
remember what's been done, but it very effectively stopped me from using 
it any more.  Score 1 to Innotek I guess.

Cheers
Kev
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Date:  Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:41:05 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Mozilla vs Staroffice

Does SO require the GCC runtime?

The latest Mozilla uses Libc05.dll and all previous versions (eg 
Lib04c.dll) removed, mixing then is disasterious.

Regards
Dennis

Kev wrote:

> Hi Gavin
>
> Gavin Miller wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As of late I am unable to run Mozilla 1.7 and Staroffice 5.1a 
>> simultaneously.  If I run staroffice first,  an error window will 
>> popup about mozilla's path not found or a host of other possible 
>> errors ( you know the popup I mean ).  If I run Mozilla first, SO 
>> won't let me open documents or create new documents.  Anyone know 
>> why?  Also I've set SO to NOT use the internet.  Could that be a reason?
>
>
> Can't help here, but ...
>
>   And finally, does
>
>> anyone suggest switching to the beta of open office/2 and how does 
>> it's milage compare to SO 5.1?
>
>
> I gave OO a go and it seems fine, except that it's crippled.  I can't 
> remember what's been done, but it very effectively stopped me from 
> using it any more.  Score 1 to Innotek I guess.
>
> Cheers
> Kev
 
>
> 

>
>
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Date:  Wed, 29 Dec 2004 11:41:50 +0800
From:  nickl at pacific dot net dot au
Subject:  Re:  Mozilla vs Staroffice

Hi Gavin.

Happy New Year to you and all at OS2Genau.

In <41D212D6.8010509 at bigpond dot net dot au>, on 12/29/2004 
   at 01:13 PM, Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au> said:

>Hi all,

>As of late I am unable to run Mozilla 1.7 and Staroffice 5.1a 
>simultaneously.  If I run staroffice first,  an error window will popup 
>about mozilla's path not found or a host of other possible errors ( you 
>know the popup I mean ).  If I run Mozilla first, SO won't let me open 
>documents or create new documents.  Anyone know why?  

A possible cause: As I'm not using SO at the moment, I can't tell you the
item, but if you have Association Editor and Deregistration Of
Association, you will see a long line of classes. There is a Star Office
HTML Class (or something like it) that is there. If you can deregister it,
Mozilla will behave until next time you start SO. No matter what, all your
association will probably change to Star Office, rather than Mozilla (i.e.
if you click on <http://www.smh dot com dot au>, Star Office rather than Mozilla
starts.). If that what happens, then you should do the above.

>Also I've set SO 
>to NOT use the internet.  

May not have any effect. Sometimes yes, somethimes no.

>Could that be a reason?  And finally, does 
>anyone suggest switching to the beta of open office/2 and how does it's 
>milage compare to SO 5.1?

My beta crashed yonks ago, but I hear it's really stable.

Regards

NICK

>Cheers
>G

> 

-----------------------------------------------------------
nickl at pacific dot net dot au
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Date:  Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:43:36 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters

It brought up the PM graphic dialog window for me.

My eCS 1.2 is from the CD

Regards
Dennis

Kev wrote:

> To one and all
>
> It seems that there are at least 2 versions of eCS v1.2 out there.  
> May I impose of as many of you as possible to check your MINSTALL.  
> All you need to do is get an eCS command line and enter MINSTALL.  
> Will you please let me know if that yields a graphical MINSTALL window 
> or a text one.  Also, please state whether or not your eCS is from 
> downloaded .ISOs or from bought disks.
>
> Thanx heaps in advance
> Kev
>
> ps  Happy new year all (and the one) in case I forget closer to the day.
>
 
>
> 

>
>
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Date:  Wed, 29 Dec 2004 16:44:33 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters

Kev wrote:

> To one and all
>
> It seems that there are at least 2 versions of eCS v1.2 out there.  May
> I impose of as many of you as possible to check your MINSTALL.  All you
> need to do is get an eCS command line and enter MINSTALL.  Will you
> please let me know if that yields a graphical MINSTALL window or a text
> one.  Also, please state whether or not your eCS is from downloaded
> .ISOs or from bought disks.
>
> Thanx heaps in advance
> Kev
>
> ps  Happy new year all (and the one) in case I forget closer to the day.
>

 Hi Kev,

  Did you by any chance update from eCS 1.1 ??  It has an mInstall.exe that sites
under the "\Previous" directory, in fact in my case there are two, different sized
ones !  These appear to be graphical. The CLI based ones are in \ecs\install and
\mmos2 directories, these appear to be the same program.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Happy new year to all, from me as well.

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Date:  Wed, 29 Dec 2004 16:55:05 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Mozilla vs Staroffice

Gavin Miller wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As of late I am unable to run Mozilla 1.7 and Staroffice 5.1a
> simultaneously.  If I run staroffice first,  an error window will popup
> about mozilla's path not found or a host of other possible errors ( you
> know the popup I mean ).  If I run Mozilla first, SO won't let me open
> documents or create new documents.  Anyone know why?  Also I've set SO
> to NOT use the internet.  Could that be a reason?  And finally, does
> anyone suggest switching to the beta of open office/2 and how does it's
> milage compare to SO 5.1?
>
> Cheers
> G

  Hi Gavin,

    I have heard of this problem before and if I rememeber correctly, it's related to
the sequence of the Libpath statement and/or the SET statements in config.sys. Again,
from memory, the solution was to run SO via a batch file with a Set startlibpath
statement (containing the directories required by SO) .

    As for switching to Open Office Org, the product is past beta version and
available to purchase from Innotek via Mensys at http://www.mensys.nl. The present
version is 1.1.4 and I believe it is intended to port the later versions as they
become available.

   I know OOO is free on other platforms, however let me draw you attention to all the
other products that Innotek port to OS/2 and allow free access to for non-commercial
usage - SUN JAVA 1.42, Flash, Mozilla java plugin and runtime library DLL, Acrobat
reader, Citrix client.  So if nothing slse, buying OOO/2 from Innotek, we are putting
some money back into the company for development support.

  I have used OOO's word processor, spreadsheet and presentation components and with
version 1.1.4 I have no problems (I'm not a heavy user however). I have no problems
interchanging these files between OOO and M$ Office and I also open update and save
files from Star Office/2 v 5.1.

Cheers/2

Ed.

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Date:  Wed, 29 Dec 2004 17:29:41 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Mozilla vs Staroffice

Ed Durrant wrote:

>Gavin Miller wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>As of late I am unable to run Mozilla 1.7 and Staroffice 5.1a
>>simultaneously.  If I run staroffice first,  an error window will popup about mozilla's path not found or a host of other possible errors ( you know the popup I mean ).  If I run Mozilla first, SO won't let me open documents or create new documents.  Anyone know why?  Also I've set SO to NOT use the internet.  Could that be a reason?  
>>
<snipped>

>  Hi Gavin,
>
>    I have heard of this problem before and if I rememeber correctly, it's related to the sequence of the Libpath statement and/or the SET statements in config.sys. Again, from memory, the solution was to run SO via a batch file with a Set startlibpath statement (containing the directories required by SO) .
>  
>
<snipped>

>..... I have no problems interchanging these files between OOO and M$ Office and I also open update and save files from Star Office/2 v 5.1.
>
>Cheers/2
>  
>

Hi Ed,  Gavin,
 Star Office/2 V5.1A  puts neither path information 
[LIBPATH/PATH/DPATH/BOOKSHELF/HELP etc] or SET statements in eCS|OS/2 
versions of config.sys

It does put a file sversion.ini in *:\os2
It *may* also put in *:\os2\os2.ini an application StarOffice, with Key 
of 5.1, and key-value of *:\APPS\STAROFFICE,  relating to initial media 
installed from.

Also in os2.ini are SO Templates and registered classes and items in 
PM_Workplace:IplLoad and possibly WPURLDEFAULTSETTINGS|DefaultBrowserExe

Otherwise it keeps a very tight tree which can be moved in entirety 
anywhere else - check in sversion.ini after moving.

-- 
Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:50:15 +1000
From:  "David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters

I have the early download GA from Mensys - my minstall in command mode only - no GUI.

Here is the output.
>
>[D:\]minstall
>MINSTALL - Multimedia Installer (CLI/CID) - by Kiewitz
>[D:\\control.scr] Could not load file
>Return-Code 8
>
>[D:\]
>
>
This query has stemmed from the attempt to install the MP3 codec that comes with MMIOPAK.  My version 
installs it correctly with a simple patch to the Master.dsk file (one of the MMIOPAK files). However it doesn't 
work with what appears to be the promised GUI version of minstall for the later version of ecs 1.2.

>
Regards

David Shearer
>

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 16:44:33 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>
>
>Kev wrote:
>
>> To one and all
>>
>> It seems that there are at least 2 versions of eCS v1.2 out there.  May
>> I impose of as many of you as possible to check your MINSTALL.  All you
>> need to do is get an eCS command line and enter MINSTALL.  Will you
>> please let me know if that yields a graphical MINSTALL window or a text
>> one.  Also, please state whether or not your eCS is from downloaded
>> .ISOs or from bought disks.
>>
>> Thanx heaps in advance
>> Kev
>>
>> ps  Happy new year all (and the one) in case I forget closer to the day.
>>
>
> Hi Kev,
>
>  Did you by any chance update from eCS 1.1 ??  It has an mInstall.exe that sites
>under the "\Previous" directory, in fact in my case there are two, different sized
>ones !  These appear to be graphical. The CLI based ones are in \ecs\install and
>\mmos2 directories, these appear to be the same program.
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>Happy new year to all, from me as well.
>

> 

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