Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1003
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 00:01:08 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Tuesday 14 December 2004
 Number  1003
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  ECD's => MKISOFS images? : Chris_neeson <Chris_Neeson at compuserve dot com>
2  Re:  ECD's => MKISOFS images? : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re:  ECD's => MKISOFS images? : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
4  Re:  New disk problems : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
5  Re:  ECD's => MKISOFS images? : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
6   Scams! : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
7  Re:  Scams! : bob <bob at fots dot org dot au>
8  Re:  Scams! : Ken Laurie" <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
9  Re:  Scams! : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
10  Re:  Scams! : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
11  Re:  Scams! : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
12   CD Audio : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
13  Re:  CD Audio : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
14  Re:  CD Audio : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>

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Date:  Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:03:17 -0500
From:  Chris_neeson <Chris_Neeson at compuserve dot com>
Subject:  Re:  ECD's => MKISOFS images?

OK, thanks to the responses about what enhanced CDs are.

I noticed Ed mentioned using MKISOFS to prepare your
image.for CDRecord2.

When I use MKISOFS, it generates an image complete with
the contents of the files to be burnt to CD
( so it takes a while and uses lots of disk space ).

Is there an option for MKISOFS so it generates an image
that uses less space, but CDRecord will still use to correctly
refer to the files to be burnt?

-------- at one stage Ed replied ----------

Kev, although I have a full copy of RSJ and I think it will indeed do what
you ask, I
use the following programs as my preference:

MKISOFS - for making ISO images of CDs or DVDs

CDRecord2 - to write CD-Rs

DVDDAO - to write DVD-Rs

The first two wrapped up with Audio-CD Creator to make them EXTREMELY easy
to use.

All of the above are freeware.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 06:36:07 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ECD's => MKISOFS images?

MKISOFS creates the ISO standard image for burning, this is effectively a "RAW" image
and hence must be the same size as what is going to be burnt - hence up to 700MB for a
CD (theoretically up to 890MB with special drives and discs) or up to 4.7GB for a DVD.

If your system is fast enough (ie processor, harddisk and burner), it is theoretically
possible to pipe the output of MKISOFS directly into CDRECORD, so avoiding the need
for the large interim file. I only tried this a couple of times on my old system and
ended up with some (at that time) expensive coasters ! So I prefer to use the interim
(large) file step method. Having the ISO file also means re-burning additional copies
takes half the time.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Chris_neeson wrote:

> OK, thanks to the responses about what enhanced CDs are.
>
> I noticed Ed mentioned using MKISOFS to prepare your
> image.for CDRecord2.
>
> When I use MKISOFS, it generates an image complete with
> the contents of the files to be burnt to CD
> ( so it takes a while and uses lots of disk space ).
>
> Is there an option for MKISOFS so it generates an image
> that uses less space, but CDRecord will still use to correctly
> refer to the files to be burnt?
>
> -------- at one stage Ed replied ----------
>
>
> Kev, although I have a full copy of RSJ and I think it will indeed do what
> you ask, I
> use the following programs as my preference:
>
> MKISOFS - for making ISO images of CDs or DVDs
>
> CDRecord2 - to write CD-Rs
>
> DVDDAO - to write DVD-Rs
>
> The first two wrapped up with Audio-CD Creator to make them EXTREMELY easy
> to use.
>
> All of the above are freeware.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.

>  
> ===========================================

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Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:21:34 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ECD's => MKISOFS images?

Another option - depending why you need to make the ISO images smaller, is that MKISOFS
can create the image in "blocks" which you can then concatinate into CDRECORD. These
images are all created in one directory however.
This is usefull if youare forced to use a file system that can only support files up to
2GB and you need to write a DVD of say 4GB of data, you can then create 2 GB files.
Perhaps you're creating the CD ISO files on a different system to where you are burning it
and wish to transfer the files between the two systems using a 128MB USB memory key - in
this case you could split up the ISO image into blocks of 100MB which could be transferred
individually across using the USB key.

I guess it all depends what you need to achieve as to whether this feature helps.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Ed Durrant wrote:

> MKISOFS creates the ISO standard image for burning, this is effectively a "RAW" image
> and hence must be the same size as what is going to be burnt - hence up to 700MB for a
> CD (theoretically up to 890MB with special drives and discs) or up to 4.7GB for a DVD.
>
> If your system is fast enough (ie processor, harddisk and burner), it is theoretically
> possible to pipe the output of MKISOFS directly into CDRECORD, so avoiding the need
> for the large interim file. I only tried this a couple of times on my old system and
> ended up with some (at that time) expensive coasters ! So I prefer to use the interim
> (large) file step method. Having the ISO file also means re-burning additional copies
> takes half the time.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
>
> Chris_neeson wrote:
>
> > OK, thanks to the responses about what enhanced CDs are.
> >
> > I noticed Ed mentioned using MKISOFS to prepare your
> > image.for CDRecord2.
> >
> > When I use MKISOFS, it generates an image complete with
> > the contents of the files to be burnt to CD
> > ( so it takes a while and uses lots of disk space ).
> >
> > Is there an option for MKISOFS so it generates an image
> > that uses less space, but CDRecord will still use to correctly
> > refer to the files to be burnt?
> >
> > -------- at one stage Ed replied ----------
> >
> >
> > Kev, although I have a full copy of RSJ and I think it will indeed do what
> > you ask, I
> > use the following programs as my preference:
> >
> > MKISOFS - for making ISO images of CDs or DVDs
> >
> > CDRecord2 - to write CD-Rs
> >
> > DVDDAO - to write DVD-Rs
> >
> > The first two wrapped up with Audio-CD Creator to make them EXTREMELY easy
> > to use.
> >
> > All of the above are freeware.
> >
> > Cheers/2
> >
> > Ed.
> 
> >  
> > ===========================================
>

>  

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Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:21:30 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  New disk problems

Hi gize

I too have always had eCS (even the preview version I think) beyond the 
1024 cyl boundary.  Perhaps ignorance really is bliss, because I was 
blissfully unaware of the problem except for other people's discussions. 
  Right now I boot eCS v1.2 from the very last partition (10gig) of a 
120gig master HDD.  My slave drive (30gig) has Linux.  In my Warp 3 and 
4 days I always booted OS/2 from the last partition of my slave drive, 
but I suspect that my drives weren't big enough to cause complaints.

I was right;  ignorance really is bliss - *sometimes*!

BTW, my present eCS 1.2 installation was done on a completely freshly 
formatted 120gig drive.

Let me take this oportunity to wish you all a joyous yule and a 
felicitus new year.

Cheers
Kev Downes

Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> 
>> Mike O'Connor schreef:
>>
>>> Hi Alan,
>>> I don't have any problems here booting eCS 1.1/MCP2
>>
>>
>> But you are the bright guy of course.
>>
>>> from beyond cylinder 1024 on a year 2000 motherboard - the limitation 
>>> for eCS only exists if the BIOS has a limitation of 1024 cylinders 
>>> for bootability.
>>
>>
>> Wrong. There was a bug in eCS1.1 that triggered an undue error message 
>> and halt to the install at brand new systems such as TP R40-41 TP R-50 
>> etc... The error message was being byond "the 1024 cylinder" boundery.
>> The bug had been agknowledged rather silently, to silenced to be good, 
>> but that is quite another matter.
>> The bad thing was/is for people having encountered there was/is no way 
>> out other than to install byond the 1024 boundery....
>>
>>> Can you get a BIOS update to allow you to overcome the problem?
>>
>>
>> ... and the only real way out for this people is to upgrade to eCS 
>> 1.2, as the bug has been fixed in the new version.
>>
>> Do ask Alex (Tayler).  [TPs are the particular problem]
>>
>>
> 
> Kris,
> I've read all the discussions as they occurred - but Alan didn't say 
> anything about Laptops, which appear to be the only systems affected by 
> that particular "bug".  Note I initially installed eCS 1.0 GA completely 
> beyond cyl 1024 on that MSI motherboard machine.
> 
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:33:29 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ECD's => MKISOFS images?

Chris

Download Tonigy from http://www.tonigy dot com/ (current version 1.7 I 
think) and have a look.  I loved it so much I paid the money.  There 
simply is no easier or quicker way on any platform.  I can drag and drop 
a Tonigy .ISO to my RSJ burner and that's it.  Creates bootable or 
nonbootable images alike.  It also give you the boot image if you just 
want to extract that for other uses.

Wrt RSJ, I know it's not freeware, but it's brilliant.  Does all that 
you list below, only easier.  The last time I tried to use the suite you 
use I gave trying to get it installed.

Cheers
Kev

Chris_neeson wrote:
> OK, thanks to the responses about what enhanced CDs are.
> 
> I noticed Ed mentioned using MKISOFS to prepare your
> image.for CDRecord2.
> 
> When I use MKISOFS, it generates an image complete with
> the contents of the files to be burnt to CD
> ( so it takes a while and uses lots of disk space ).
> 
> Is there an option for MKISOFS so it generates an image
> that uses less space, but CDRecord will still use to correctly
> refer to the files to be burnt?
> 
> 
> -------- at one stage Ed replied ----------
>  
> 
> Kev, although I have a full copy of RSJ and I think it will indeed do what
> you ask, I
> use the following programs as my preference:
> 
> MKISOFS - for making ISO images of CDs or DVDs
> 
> CDRecord2 - to write CD-Rs
> 
> DVDDAO - to write DVD-Rs
> 
> The first two wrapped up with Audio-CD Creator to make them EXTREMELY easy
> to use.
> 
> All of the above are freeware.
> 
> Cheers/2
> 
> Ed.

>  
> ===========================================
> 
> 
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:53:06 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:   Scams!

Greetings one and all

Does anyone out there know where to send scam emails for investigation? 
  I just got a bogus PayPal email, asking me to go to a site and update 
my personal info.  And no, I didn't go there coz I've never used PayPal. 
  In fact I don't even know how.

Cheers
Kev Downes
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:15:39 +0800
From:  bob <bob at fots dot org dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scams!

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:53 pm, Kev wrote:
> Greetings one and all
>
> Does anyone out there know where to send scam emails for investigation?
>   I just got a bogus PayPal email, asking me to go to a site and update
> my personal info.  And no, I didn't go there coz I've never used PayPal.
>   In fact I don't even know how.

This is a common "phishing" scam. Expect a lot more in future, particularly 
involving multinational banks and CC providers.

for .au there is
http://www.scamwatch.gov.au/content/links/links.asp
which lists contacts per state as well as commonwealth sites (ACCC etc)
=========
National Scams

If your complaint is about prices, competition, unfair market practices, 
product safety, franchises or advertising, contact:

Australian Competition and Consumer Commission
1300 302 502
www.accc.gov.au
Financial Scams

Financial scams are scams that involve sales offers or promotions about 
financial products and services such as superannuation, managed funds, 
financial advice, insurance, credit or deposit accounts. Report financial 
scams to:

Australian Securities and Investments Commission
1300 300 630

www.fido.asic.gov.au
==========

Who you contact depends on how wide spread the scam is.

HTH

> Cheers
> Kev Downes

-- 
Win98 is called Win98 because it is about as stable and flexible as Linux
0.0.98 (or at least, Microsoft claims it is)
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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:18:13 +0000
From:  "Ken Laurie" <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
Subject:  Re:  Scams!

Kev

I just did a quick check at PayPal. They say to notify them regarding scams, but it looks like you have to be registed to use the link on this page http://www.paypal dot com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_security-center-outside

What I would do is just use their "Report a Problem" if it works for unregistered users or just email them at their contact address which can be found on the same page.

Regards
Ken

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:53:06 +0800, kdownes at tpg dot com dot au wrote:

>Greetings one and all
>
>Does anyone out there know where to send scam emails for investigation? 
>  I just got a bogus PayPal email, asking me to go to a site and update 
>my personal info.  And no, I didn't go there coz I've never used PayPal. 
>  In fact I don't even know how.
>
>Cheers
>Kev Downes

> 

>
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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 14:05:47 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scams!

Thanx gize.  I've reported it to Scamwatch.

Kev wrote:
> Greetings one and all
> 
> Does anyone out there know where to send scam emails for investigation? 
>  I just got a bogus PayPal email, asking me to go to a site and update 
> my personal info.  And no, I didn't go there coz I've never used PayPal. 
>  In fact I don't even know how.
> 
> Cheers
> Kev Downes
 
> 
> 

> 
> 
> 
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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:11:50 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scams!

I'm getting them too, strangly at work I'm getting eBay offers.
I just delete them

Regards
Dennis.

Kev wrote:

> Greetings one and all
>
> Does anyone out there know where to send scam emails for 
> investigation?  I just got a bogus PayPal email, asking me to go to a 
> site and update my personal info.  And no, I didn't go there coz I've 
> never used PayPal.  In fact I don't even know how.
>
> Cheers
> Kev Downes
 
>
> 

>
>
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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:07:05 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scams!

Your ISP - but they probably won't care unless they can sell you a Spam stopper
service (as Telstra Bigpond do for $2.50 a month) - some ISPs offer this service for
free.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Kev wrote:

> Greetings one and all
>
> Does anyone out there know where to send scam emails for investigation?
>   I just got a bogus PayPal email, asking me to go to a site and update
> my personal info.  And no, I didn't go there coz I've never used PayPal.
>   In fact I don't even know how.
>
> Cheers
> Kev Downes

>  

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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:11:18 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:   CD Audio

I just received an Audio CD from AAMI as a gift for my excellent driving 
record.
It's called Cruising with AAMI
Now it's obviously not a commercially released product.

However it is unplayable on my computer CD Drive

I randomly stops for random intervals. The time display also stops. The 
pauses vary from about a quarter second to 5 or 6 seconds.

Is this the result of copy protection?

Do I send it back to AAMI with a complaint?

Regards
Dennis.
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**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:22:28 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  CD Audio

Ah well, Dennis - this a CAR CD - it will only play in your CAR - it's music for when
you're driving along ..... "Cruising with AAMI" ...    You can't expect it to play in
home CD Players, walkmen or computers !!

It actually needs the bumps and sudden braking and aceleration to keep it playing !!

Cheers/2

Ed.

Dennis Nolan wrote:

> I just received an Audio CD from AAMI as a gift for my excellent driving
> record.
> It's called Cruising with AAMI
> Now it's obviously not a commercially released product.
>
> However it is unplayable on my computer CD Drive
>
> I randomly stops for random intervals. The time display also stops. The
> pauses vary from about a quarter second to 5 or 6 seconds.
>
> Is this the result of copy protection?
>
> Do I send it back to AAMI with a complaint?
>
> Regards
> Dennis.

>  

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**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:32:01 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  CD Audio

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:22:28 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Ah well, Dennis - this a CAR CD - it will only play in your CAR - it's music for when
>you're driving along ..... "Cruising with AAMI" ...    You can't expect it to play in
>home CD Players, walkmen or computers !!

My goodness Ed, what a truly amazing phenomenon!!

>It actually needs the bumps and sudden braking and aceleration to keep it playing !!

Is that something you learned from testing it on your Sydney roads?? <GD&R>

>
>Cheers/2

And 2U2!

Remember the Reason for the Season folks!

And

The Christmas spirit is not something you drink, so make sure you stay safe
and well so you can enjoy eCS-life in 2005!

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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