Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 996
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:01:09 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Monday 06 December 2004
 Number  996
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Did you know : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
2  Re:  Did you know : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
3   eCS 1.2 and WinXP peer shares : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
4  Re:  Did you know : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
5  Re:  eCS 1.2 and WinXP peer shares : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
6  Re:  Did you know : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
7  Re:  eCS 1.2 and WinXP peer shares : David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
8  Re:  eCS 1.2 and WinXP peer shares : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re:  Did you know : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
10  Re:  eCS 1.2 and WinXP peer shares : David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
11  Re:  eCS 1.2 and WinXP peer shares : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>

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Date:  Mon, 06 Dec 2004 07:33:26 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Did you know

Ian Manners wrote:

> Hi Bob
>
> >From Harris Technology, I took up the APC offer of the Sony internal
>  Dual Layer 16x DVD Burner ($189 with 'free' 128MB Micro vault).
> Noticed the HD's in the HT section so though it was about time I
> added some more storage.
>
> I was going to get the SCSI but though I'd risk the IDE drives which
> were a lot higher capacity, and as they are mainly for my backup
> server they wont be running all the time anyway.
>
> Hitachi Deskstar 400GB/7200RPM 8MB ATA-100  $799.00
>
> V's what I was going to get
>
> Hitachi UltraStar146GB/10000RPM 80pin SCSI  $1,019.00
>
>

  Hi Ian,
   I can understand why you didn't want to go with a drive costing over $1000 ! But
it's fair I think to point out that going from 7200 RPM to 10,000 RPM or 10,000 RPM to
15,000 RPM gives major performance increases and often almost doubles the price of the
drive. Harris Technology are never "cheap", the 146GB 10K SCSI at just over $1000 is a
normal price, in fact a bit high, as the IBM x-series hot swap (in cradle) drive of
the same spec costs the same.

> Now, I just got to spend sometime with Dani's drivers so that it is
> seen as a SCSI device so I can use CDRecord, then I can move
> the aging Yamaha x6 SCSI burner to the backup server.

   One good tip is to download audio-CD creator. Even if you don't use this for
burning CDs, it's help files, describing step by step how to setup the required
additional drivers in config.sys is second to none !

>
> Then, I'm going to install Smoothwall v2.0 on a spare IBM PC300 with
> two NIC's and see what thats like as a firewall.
>

  I'm guessing this is from the December APC DVD ??

  They've done a good job on that DVD, now if I could only get all the sounds to play
and autoload etc. to happen under OS/2 .....

>

Cheers/2

Ed.

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Date:  Mon, 06 Dec 2004 13:35:05 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  Did you know

Hi Ed

>    I can understand why you didn't want to go with a drive costing over $1000 ! But
> it's fair I think to point out that going from 7200 RPM to 10,000 RPM or 10,000 RPM to
> 15,000 RPM gives major performance increases and often almost doubles the price of the
> drive. Harris Technology are never "cheap", the 146GB 10K SCSI at just over $1000 is a
> normal price, in fact a bit high, as the IBM x-series hot swap (in cradle) drive of
> the same spec costs the same.

I did get some off those prices, just thought I'd better quote retail.
If I had to pay the full price I'd get them wholesale from somewere,
so much paperwork, couldnt be bothered.

And the margins are also small between wholesale and retail in the
computer hardware world but if you buy one off the street at harristech,
they definitly make their margin, guess thats why the business is good
for them.

The extra RPM for SCSI drives is worth it for the speed, and I still havent had
a SCSI drive fail on me, still have my first 1GB Seagate, and a 1GB IBM SCSI
drive here, the seagate is retired, the IBM is in my primary DNS server.
I've lost count of the failed IDE drives I've had over the past 7 years, I did
have a pile of 5 or so but ripped the PCB's off, kept the platters as coasters,
and turfed them. Had another IDE fail in my secondary DNS server about 2
months ago, so thinking of putting the old seagate SCSI and and old SCSI
card in that.
 
> > Now, I just got to spend sometime with Dani's drivers so that it is
> > seen as a SCSI device so I can use CDRecord, then I can move
> > the aging Yamaha x6 SCSI burner to the backup server.
> 
>    One good tip is to download audio-CD creator. Even if you don't use this for
> burning CDs, it's help files, describing step by step how to setup the required
> additional drivers in config.sys is second to none !

I just unzipped Dani's package and read the text files :-)

I'm also using Chris Wohlgemuth's Data/Audio CD creater as a front end
to CDRecord, and your right, just had a look in help, which is intergrated
with the OS/2 help as well, very well done. The main reason I use Chris's
packages are that its intergrated into the WPS so burning CD's is treated
the same as anything else, (apart from clicking "Write CD" and its all
object based.

> > Then, I'm going to install Smoothwall v2.0 on a spare IBM PC300 with
> > two NIC's and see what thats like as a firewall.
> 
>   I'm guessing this is from the December APC DVD ??

Downloaded it early, plus the 4 updates, just didnt have the time.
 
>   They've done a good job on that DVD, now if I could only get all the sounds to play
> and autoload etc. to happen under OS/2 .....

I havent installed Flash7 so the cant use the APC menu, just had a look at the
contents manually. Plays music/wave/mp3's ok.

Previously I've just used my wifes DVD in her mac to copy files over.

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard.
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Date:  Mon, 06 Dec 2004 15:40:00 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:   eCS 1.2 and WinXP peer shares

Hi all (and one)

Does anyone have any good resources for getting the shares visible on a 
p2p network with 3 WinXP machines and 1 eCS1.2 machine.  The 3 win 
machines all see each other fine, 1 of them can see the eCS box but 
can't see any shared resources and the eCS machine can't see any of 
them.  I'm using straight netbios/netbeui not net... over TCP/IP.

Thanx in advance
Kev
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Date:  Mon, 06 Dec 2004 21:48:08 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Did you know

Ian Manners wrote:

> Hi Ed
>

  Ok on your comments re SCSI versus IDE. IDE are getting a lot better however their primary
market is still desktops, while SCSI drives primary market is servers, so it makes sense
that SCSI will stand longer continous running I guess.

>
> >   They've done a good job on that DVD, now if I could only get all the sounds to play
> > and autoload etc. to happen under OS/2 .....
>
> I havent installed Flash7 so the cant use the APC menu, just had a look at the
> contents manually. Plays music/wave/mp3's ok.
>

Aha, so it's still browser and plug-in based ??  I'll give it a try on the OS/2 box then.
Flash 7 - oh you mean the Russian Flash ???  I wonder how that "leaked" ?

Cheers/2

Ed.

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Date:  Mon, 06 Dec 2004 21:58:00 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and WinXP peer shares

Hi kev,

  The answer is in the eCS 1.2 manual - read page 28 - it's all to do with turning
LMANNOUNCE on on the various Windows platforms.

Cheers/2

ED.

Kev wrote:

> Hi all (and one)
>
> Does anyone have any good resources for getting the shares visible on a
> p2p network with 3 WinXP machines and 1 eCS1.2 machine.  The 3 win
> machines all see each other fine, 1 of them can see the eCS box but
> can't see any shared resources and the eCS machine can't see any of
> them.  I'm using straight netbios/netbeui not net... over TCP/IP.
>
> Thanx in advance
> Kev

>  

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Date:  Mon, 06 Dec 2004 22:21:20 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Did you know

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 17:48:52 +1100 (EDT), Ian Manners wrote:

>Did you know that it takes 1 days 21 hour 1 min 18 sec to format a new
>400GB Hitachi ATA100 Harddisk (8MB Cache) with JFS and the /L parameter ?
>
>You do now :-)
>
>Now for the next one :-(

Assuming the disk is good, why not diskCopy one to the other (LVM might be
wierd, but it is worth a try).

-Chris

WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2.
Voice:  +61-3-9307-0344   Internet:   chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au
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Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 212, Brunswick, VIC 3056, AUSTRALIA

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Date:  Mon, 06 Dec 2004 21:49:28 +1000
From:  "David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and WinXP peer shares

Where do you get the ecs 1.2 manual?

David Shearer

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 21:58:00 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Hi kev,
>
>  The answer is in the eCS 1.2 manual - read page 28 - it's all to do with turning
>LMANNOUNCE on on the various Windows platforms.
>
>Cheers/2
>
>ED.
>
>Kev wrote:
>
>> Hi all (and one)
>>
>> Does anyone have any good resources for getting the shares visible on a
>> p2p network with 3 WinXP machines and 1 eCS1.2 machine.  The 3 win
>> machines all see each other fine, 1 of them can see the eCS box but
>> can't see any shared resources and the eCS machine can't see any of
>> them.  I'm using straight netbios/netbeui not net... over TCP/IP.
>>
>> Thanx in advance
>> Kev
>
>>  
>
>

> 

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Date:  Mon, 06 Dec 2004 22:54:51 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and WinXP peer shares

It comes with the product.

Cheers/2

Ed.

David Shearer wrote:

> Where do you get the ecs 1.2 manual?
>
> David Shearer
>
> On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 21:58:00 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
>
> >Hi kev,
> >
> >  The answer is in the eCS 1.2 manual - read page 28 - it's all to do with turning
> >LMANNOUNCE on on the various Windows platforms.
> >
> >Cheers/2
> >
> >ED.
> >
> >Kev wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all (and one)
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any good resources for getting the shares visible on a
> >> p2p network with 3 WinXP machines and 1 eCS1.2 machine.  The 3 win
> >> machines all see each other fine, 1 of them can see the eCS box but
> >> can't see any shared resources and the eCS machine can't see any of
> >> them.  I'm using straight netbios/netbeui not net... over TCP/IP.
> >>
> >> Thanx in advance
> >> Kev
> >
> >>  
> >
> >

> > 

>

>  

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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 06 Dec 2004 23:04:10 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  Did you know

Hi Chris

> Assuming the disk is good, why not diskCopy one to the other (LVM might be
> wierd, but it is worth a try).

Assuming you mean replicate the blank partition from one HD to the other ?

Because I dont trust harddisks, especially IDE ones, which is also why I do
the Long format to make sure errors are remapped before I start using
them for data backup purposes. Also if anything untoward is found I'd like
to return them ASAP.

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

Men are liars.  We'll lie about lying if we have to.  I'm an algebra liar.  I figure two good lies make a positive.  -Tim Allen
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Date:  Mon, 06 Dec 2004 22:15:34 +1000
From:  "David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and WinXP peer shares

I have ecs 1.2 but was the electronic download version.  Is it avail for download somewhere?

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 22:54:51 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>It comes with the product.
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>David Shearer wrote:
>
>> Where do you get the ecs 1.2 manual?
>>
>> David Shearer
>>
>> On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 21:58:00 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
>>
>> >Hi kev,
>> >
>> >  The answer is in the eCS 1.2 manual - read page 28 - it's all to do with turning
>> >LMANNOUNCE on on the various Windows platforms.
>> >
>> >Cheers/2
>> >
>> >ED.
>> >
>> >Kev wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all (and one)
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone have any good resources for getting the shares visible on a
>> >> p2p network with 3 WinXP machines and 1 eCS1.2 machine.  The 3 win
>> >> machines all see each other fine, 1 of them can see the eCS box but
>> >> can't see any shared resources and the eCS machine can't see any of
>> >> them.  I'm using straight netbios/netbeui not net... over TCP/IP.
>> >>
>> >> Thanx in advance
>> >> Kev
>> >
>> >>  
>> >
>> >
>
>> > 
>
>>
>
>>  
>
>

> 

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Date:  Mon, 06 Dec 2004 20:30:06 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and WinXP peer shares

Hi Ed

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Hi kev,
> 
>   The answer is in the eCS 1.2 manual - read page 28 - it's all to do with turning
> LMANNOUNCE on on the various Windows platforms.

  Thanx so much.  I have the manual.  Much of a day was spent trying to 
sort this out.  Next time I'll just ask you first!

Thanx again
Kev
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