Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 990
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:01:09 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Saturday 27 November 2004
 Number  990
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Scanners : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
2  Re:  Scanners : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re:  Scanners : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
4  Re:  Scanners : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
5  Re:  Scanners : Gavin Miller <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
6  Re:  Scanners : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
7  Re:  Scanners : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
8  Re:  Scanners : Gavin Miller <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
9  Re:  Scanners : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
10  Re:  Scanners : Gavin Miller <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
11  Re:  Scanners : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
12  Re:  Scanners : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
13  Re:  Scanners : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
14  Re:  Scanners : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
15  Re:  Scanners : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 09:09:02 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

Hi Gavin

I did look into operation with Tame/2 a couple of months ago. At that 
time it did not support the 4870, only an earlier model in the range.
However, it is also a question of ease of use.
The software that comes with the 4870 makes scanning in, and post 
processing so easy.
Automatic dust removal.
Automatic damage repair.
Automatic unmask sharpening.
Automatic colour correction, including brightness and contrast.
Scanning  multiple frames.

When SVista is able to deliver full USB and the rest of Ed's post, I'll 
give it another try.

One area where OS/2 does shine is in image rendering.

PmView Pro renders an image far better than any of the Win98 graphic 
programs.
This is using all the same hardware except fot the HDD.

Under Pmview the images look sharper and cleaner.
Under windows the images seem blurred. It maybe that windows is bad at 
rendering a large file to the screen resolution.

Pmview's method of colour, contrast and gamma adjustment is better than 
that used in the windows programs. Unfortunately, it only operates on 
the full image.
The limited number of effects and their restriction to only the full 
image, severely restricts it's usefulness.

I suppose we have to wait until SVister delivers for an OS/2 solution.

Regards

Dennis

Gavin Miller wrote:

> Hi Denis,
>
> There is a Sane backend for the 4870 that is suposed to be fully 
> functional.  May I ask if it's ok to test it with Tame/2.  It comes 
> with sane 1.0.14 for epson USB, Snapscan USB and SCSI.  The package is 
> tame100.zip and is found on hobbes.  There are instructions in the INF 
> file on what to do to test scanners not listed in the database.
>
> Cheers
> G
 
>
> 

>
>
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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 13:34:56 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

Hey Guys, you do realise that Tame/2 is only a front-end to SANE don't you ?? Hence once
someone gets SANE/2 compiled with working USB support, TAME/2 can use it - a little bit
of file editing to define the available features with a hex editor but that's no
"biggie" I did it fot the Canon FB620S some years ago.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Dennis Nolan wrote:

> Hi Gavin
>
> I did look into operation with Tame/2 a couple of months ago. At that
> time it did not support the 4870, only an earlier model in the range.
> However, it is also a question of ease of use.
> The software that comes with the 4870 makes scanning in, and post
> processing so easy.
> Automatic dust removal.
> Automatic damage repair.
> Automatic unmask sharpening.
> Automatic colour correction, including brightness and contrast.
> Scanning  multiple frames.
>
> When SVista is able to deliver full USB and the rest of Ed's post, I'll
> give it another try.
>
> One area where OS/2 does shine is in image rendering.
>
> PmView Pro renders an image far better than any of the Win98 graphic
> programs.
> This is using all the same hardware except fot the HDD.
>
> Under Pmview the images look sharper and cleaner.
> Under windows the images seem blurred. It maybe that windows is bad at
> rendering a large file to the screen resolution.
>
> Pmview's method of colour, contrast and gamma adjustment is better than
> that used in the windows programs. Unfortunately, it only operates on
> the full image.
> The limited number of effects and their restriction to only the full
> image, severely restricts it's usefulness.
>
> I suppose we have to wait until SVister delivers for an OS/2 solution.
>
> Regards
>
> Dennis
>
> Gavin Miller wrote:
>
> > Hi Denis,
> >
> > There is a Sane backend for the 4870 that is suposed to be fully
> > functional.  May I ask if it's ok to test it with Tame/2.  It comes
> > with sane 1.0.14 for epson USB, Snapscan USB and SCSI.  The package is
> > tame100.zip and is found on hobbes.  There are instructions in the INF
> > file on what to do to test scanners not listed in the database.
> >
> > Cheers
> > G
> 
> >
> > 
> 
> >
> >

>  

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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:07:22 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

Hi all

I've just come across ImageJ at http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/

It's a free java image application. It runs on os/2 with Java 1.3 
although I'm using 1.4.2

It is so fast at rendering the image, half a sec. for a 1024x960 file.

It was developed by the Yank PS as a medical/scientific image analysis tool.
But a lot of what you want to do in image post production is included.

 From the downloads directory get the linux update download. It's the 
only zip file.
Don't bother with the windows file, it won't expand out, looking for a 
specific file which is not in os/2.

Unzip the file and go to the docs section and find the os/2 install 
directions.

If it's as good as I hope and PmVnc works to expectation I should be 
able to have the scanner conected to a windows box which I can controll 
from my os/2 computer.
Something to look at over Christmas.

Regards
Dennis.

Ed Durrant wrote:

>Hey Guys, you do realise that Tame/2 is only a front-end to SANE don't you ?? Hence once
>someone gets SANE/2 compiled with working USB support, TAME/2 can use it - a little bit
>of file editing to define the available features with a hex editor but that's no
>"biggie" I did it fot the Canon FB620S some years ago.
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>Dennis Nolan wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi Gavin
>>
>>I did look into operation with Tame/2 a couple of months ago. At that
>>time it did not support the 4870, only an earlier model in the range.
>>However, it is also a question of ease of use.
>>The software that comes with the 4870 makes scanning in, and post
>>processing so easy.
>>Automatic dust removal.
>>Automatic damage repair.
>>Automatic unmask sharpening.
>>Automatic colour correction, including brightness and contrast.
>>Scanning  multiple frames.
>>
>>When SVista is able to deliver full USB and the rest of Ed's post, I'll
>>give it another try.
>>
>>One area where OS/2 does shine is in image rendering.
>>
>>PmView Pro renders an image far better than any of the Win98 graphic
>>programs.
>>This is using all the same hardware except fot the HDD.
>>
>>Under Pmview the images look sharper and cleaner.
>>Under windows the images seem blurred. It maybe that windows is bad at
>>rendering a large file to the screen resolution.
>>
>>Pmview's method of colour, contrast and gamma adjustment is better than
>>that used in the windows programs. Unfortunately, it only operates on
>>the full image.
>>The limited number of effects and their restriction to only the full
>>image, severely restricts it's usefulness.
>>
>>I suppose we have to wait until SVister delivers for an OS/2 solution.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dennis
>>
>>Gavin Miller wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi Denis,
>>>
>>>There is a Sane backend for the 4870 that is suposed to be fully
>>>functional.  May I ask if it's ok to test it with Tame/2.  It comes
>>>with sane 1.0.14 for epson USB, Snapscan USB and SCSI.  The package is
>>>tame100.zip and is found on hobbes.  There are instructions in the INF
>>>file on what to do to test scanners not listed in the database.
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>G

>>>
>>>

>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>

>> 

>>    
>>
>

> 

>
>
>  
>
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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:12:56 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

Have you also considered X-SANE that has similar "remote control" features ?

Cheers/2

Ed.

Dennis Nolan wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I've just come across ImageJ at http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/
>
> It's a free java image application. It runs on os/2 with Java 1.3
> although I'm using 1.4.2
>
> It is so fast at rendering the image, half a sec. for a 1024x960 file.
>
> It was developed by the Yank PS as a medical/scientific image analysis tool.
> But a lot of what you want to do in image post production is included.
>
>  From the downloads directory get the linux update download. It's the
> only zip file.
> Don't bother with the windows file, it won't expand out, looking for a
> specific file which is not in os/2.
>
> Unzip the file and go to the docs section and find the os/2 install
> directions.
>
> If it's as good as I hope and PmVnc works to expectation I should be
> able to have the scanner conected to a windows box which I can controll
> from my os/2 computer.
> Something to look at over Christmas.
>
> Regards
> Dennis.
>
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
> >Hey Guys, you do realise that Tame/2 is only a front-end to SANE don't you ?? Hence once
> >someone gets SANE/2 compiled with working USB support, TAME/2 can use it - a little bit
> >of file editing to define the available features with a hex editor but that's no
> >"biggie" I did it fot the Canon FB620S some years ago.
> >
> >Cheers/2
> >
> >Ed.
> >
> >Dennis Nolan wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi Gavin
> >>
> >>I did look into operation with Tame/2 a couple of months ago. At that
> >>time it did not support the 4870, only an earlier model in the range.
> >>However, it is also a question of ease of use.
> >>The software that comes with the 4870 makes scanning in, and post
> >>processing so easy.
> >>Automatic dust removal.
> >>Automatic damage repair.
> >>Automatic unmask sharpening.
> >>Automatic colour correction, including brightness and contrast.
> >>Scanning  multiple frames.
> >>
> >>When SVista is able to deliver full USB and the rest of Ed's post, I'll
> >>give it another try.
> >>
> >>One area where OS/2 does shine is in image rendering.
> >>
> >>PmView Pro renders an image far better than any of the Win98 graphic
> >>programs.
> >>This is using all the same hardware except fot the HDD.
> >>
> >>Under Pmview the images look sharper and cleaner.
> >>Under windows the images seem blurred. It maybe that windows is bad at
> >>rendering a large file to the screen resolution.
> >>
> >>Pmview's method of colour, contrast and gamma adjustment is better than
> >>that used in the windows programs. Unfortunately, it only operates on
> >>the full image.
> >>The limited number of effects and their restriction to only the full
> >>image, severely restricts it's usefulness.
> >>
> >>I suppose we have to wait until SVister delivers for an OS/2 solution.
> >>
> >>Regards
> >>
> >>Dennis
> >>
> >>Gavin Miller wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi Denis,
> >>>
> >>>There is a Sane backend for the 4870 that is suposed to be fully
> >>>functional.  May I ask if it's ok to test it with Tame/2.  It comes
> >>>with sane 1.0.14 for epson USB, Snapscan USB and SCSI.  The package is
> >>>tame100.zip and is found on hobbes.  There are instructions in the INF
> >>>file on what to do to test scanners not listed in the database.
> >>>
> >>>Cheers
> >>>G
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> 
> >> 
> 
> >>
> >>
> >

> > 

> >
> >
> >
> >

>  

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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:18:15 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

Hi Ed,

>Hey Guys, you do realise that Tame/2 is only a front-end to SANE don't you ?? Hence once
>someone gets SANE/2 compiled with working USB support.
>

There are two USB compiled backends for OS/2.  One for Epson scanners 
only (not the one that is listed on the sane site) and Snapscan.  Both 
come with Tame/2.  The big problem is there aparently needs a port of 
usblib to OS/2 before other usb scanners become useful.  Also, (and I'm 
just going on the instructions here) the scanner needs to be listed in 
the Tame/2 database.  This means use sane-find-scanner.exe to search for 
the scanner, if it finds one it recognises then use scaninfo.exe to 
produce info on the scanners capabilities, test it with scanimage, if it 
works send the info to the Tame people and they will add it to the 
database and send you a copy.

Just on a side note; where are all the native OS/2 developers?  There 
seems to be a disturbing (growing) trend to either port from unix or 
turn os/2 into an emulator.  Come on... Native people.  Native... end 
rant ;-)
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:21:05 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

By the way, the Linux directory has GZ files not zip files (are GZ files actually ZIP format
??).

ZIP files are however at:

ftp://rsbweb.nih.gov/pub/image-j/zips/

Cheers/2

Ed.

Dennis Nolan wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I've just come across ImageJ at http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/
>
> It's a free java image application. It runs on os/2 with Java 1.3
> although I'm using 1.4.2
>
> It is so fast at rendering the image, half a sec. for a 1024x960 file.
>
> It was developed by the Yank PS as a medical/scientific image analysis tool.
> But a lot of what you want to do in image post production is included.
>
>  From the downloads directory get the linux update download. It's the
> only zip file.
> Don't bother with the windows file, it won't expand out, looking for a
> specific file which is not in os/2.
>
> Unzip the file and go to the docs section and find the os/2 install
> directions.
>
> If it's as good as I hope and PmVnc works to expectation I should be
> able to have the scanner conected to a windows box which I can controll
> from my os/2 computer.
> Something to look at over Christmas.
>
> Regards
> Dennis.
>
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
> >Hey Guys, you do realise that Tame/2 is only a front-end to SANE don't you ?? Hence once
> >someone gets SANE/2 compiled with working USB support, TAME/2 can use it - a little bit
> >of file editing to define the available features with a hex editor but that's no
> >"biggie" I did it fot the Canon FB620S some years ago.
> >
> >Cheers/2
> >
> >Ed.
> >
> >Dennis Nolan wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi Gavin
> >>
> >>I did look into operation with Tame/2 a couple of months ago. At that
> >>time it did not support the 4870, only an earlier model in the range.
> >>However, it is also a question of ease of use.
> >>The software that comes with the 4870 makes scanning in, and post
> >>processing so easy.
> >>Automatic dust removal.
> >>Automatic damage repair.
> >>Automatic unmask sharpening.
> >>Automatic colour correction, including brightness and contrast.
> >>Scanning  multiple frames.
> >>
> >>When SVista is able to deliver full USB and the rest of Ed's post, I'll
> >>give it another try.
> >>
> >>One area where OS/2 does shine is in image rendering.
> >>
> >>PmView Pro renders an image far better than any of the Win98 graphic
> >>programs.
> >>This is using all the same hardware except fot the HDD.
> >>
> >>Under Pmview the images look sharper and cleaner.
> >>Under windows the images seem blurred. It maybe that windows is bad at
> >>rendering a large file to the screen resolution.
> >>
> >>Pmview's method of colour, contrast and gamma adjustment is better than
> >>that used in the windows programs. Unfortunately, it only operates on
> >>the full image.
> >>The limited number of effects and their restriction to only the full
> >>image, severely restricts it's usefulness.
> >>
> >>I suppose we have to wait until SVister delivers for an OS/2 solution.
> >>
> >>Regards
> >>
> >>Dennis
> >>
> >>Gavin Miller wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi Denis,
> >>>
> >>>There is a Sane backend for the 4870 that is suposed to be fully
> >>>functional.  May I ask if it's ok to test it with Tame/2.  It comes
> >>>with sane 1.0.14 for epson USB, Snapscan USB and SCSI.  The package is
> >>>tame100.zip and is found on hobbes.  There are instructions in the INF
> >>>file on what to do to test scanners not listed in the database.
> >>>
> >>>Cheers
> >>>G
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> 
> >> 
> 
> >>
> >>
> >

> > 

> >
> >
> >
> >

>  

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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:30:52 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

Gavin Miller wrote:

> Hi Ed,
>
> >Hey Guys, you do realise that Tame/2 is only a front-end to SANE don't you ?? Hence once
> >someone gets SANE/2 compiled with working USB support.
> >
>
> There are two USB compiled backends for OS/2.  One for Epson scanners
> only (not the one that is listed on the sane site) and Snapscan.  Both
> come with Tame/2.  The big problem is there aparently needs a port of
> usblib to OS/2 before other usb scanners become useful.  Also, (and I'm
> just going on the instructions here) the scanner needs to be listed in
> the Tame/2 database.  This means use sane-find-scanner.exe to search for
> the scanner, if it finds one it recognises then use scaninfo.exe to
> produce info on the scanners capabilities, test it with scanimage, if it
> works send the info to the Tame people and they will add it to the
> database and send you a copy.
>

  Actually you can add it yourself if you understand Hex editors - I did it and sent off the
settings for the Canon and they kindly sent me their utility to update the database for any
future scanners I may wish to try out. Fact is the Canon / TAME / PMVIEW 2000 combination
works very well for me, so as long as the scanner doesn't break, I'm happy !

>

Cheers/2

Ed.

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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:35:21 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

The canon's a scsi right?
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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:40:54 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

Yes - Canon FB620S AU$99 with Adaptec SCSI card from Strathfield Audio about 4 or 5
years ago.

I know the questions are aimed at USB scanners and like you, what I have heard is
really only very few USB scanners are supported under OS/2, Epson being the preferred
one apparently.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Gavin Miller wrote:

> The canon's a scsi right?

>  

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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:56:06 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

Mmmm... don't think I could get one now.

Ed Durrant wrote:

>Yes - Canon FB620S AU$99 with Adaptec SCSI card from Strathfield Audio about 4 or 5
>years ago.
>
>I know the questions are aimed at USB scanners and like you, what I have heard is
>really only very few USB scanners are supported under OS/2, Epson being the preferred
>one apparently.
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>Gavin Miller wrote:
>
>  
>
>>The canon's a scsi right?

>> 

>>    
>>
>

> 

>
>
>  
>
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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 19:10:20 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

Ed Durrant said:
> By the way, the Linux directory has GZ files not zip files (are GZ files
> actually ZIP format
> ??).

you need

0[roman][E:\]untgz

UNTGZ/OS2 Decompression Utility 0.95 freeware version
Copyright (c) 1996,97 Tillmann Steinbrecher. Feb 17 1997

USAGE:  UNTGZOS2 <filename> <filespec> to extract from TGZ/TAR archive
        UNTGZOS2 -l <filename> <filespec> to list/test TGZ/TAR archive
        UNTGZOS2 -t <filename> to test CRC of GZ/TGZ archive
        UNTGZOS2 -d <infile> <outfile> to decompress GZ archive
        UNTGZOS2 -y <switches> <files> to assume YES on all queries

        GZIP compressed, PKZIP compressed and uncompressed TAR
        archives are supported.

        This freeware program may be distributed according to
        the terms of the GNU general public license version 2.

        If you have any suggestions or encounter problems using
        this program, please send a message to tst at bigfoot dot com.
        Your comments are highly appreciated.           Thanks.

-- 
Voytek
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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:26:00 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

Sorry, I was relying on memory.

It's the
JAR File (Upgrade or Unix),

this is a zip file, and it is at the top of the page.

Regards

Dennis.

Ed Durrant wrote:

>By the way, the Linux directory has GZ files not zip files (are GZ files actually ZIP format
>??).
>
>ZIP files are however at:
>
>ftp://rsbweb.nih.gov/pub/image-j/zips/
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>Dennis Nolan wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi all
>>
>>I've just come across ImageJ at http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/
>>
>>It's a free java image application. It runs on os/2 with Java 1.3
>>although I'm using 1.4.2
>>
>>It is so fast at rendering the image, half a sec. for a 1024x960 file.
>>
>>It was developed by the Yank PS as a medical/scientific image analysis tool.
>>But a lot of what you want to do in image post production is included.
>>
>> From the downloads directory get the linux update download. It's the
>>only zip file.
>>Don't bother with the windows file, it won't expand out, looking for a
>>specific file which is not in os/2.
>>
>>Unzip the file and go to the docs section and find the os/2 install
>>directions.
>>
>>If it's as good as I hope and PmVnc works to expectation I should be
>>able to have the scanner conected to a windows box which I can controll
>>from my os/2 computer.
>>Something to look at over Christmas.
>>
>>Regards
>>Dennis.
>>
>>Ed Durrant wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hey Guys, you do realise that Tame/2 is only a front-end to SANE don't you ?? Hence once
>>>someone gets SANE/2 compiled with working USB support, TAME/2 can use it - a little bit
>>>of file editing to define the available features with a hex editor but that's no
>>>"biggie" I did it fot the Canon FB620S some years ago.
>>>
>>>Cheers/2
>>>
>>>Ed.
>>>
>>>Dennis Nolan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Hi Gavin
>>>>
>>>>I did look into operation with Tame/2 a couple of months ago. At that
>>>>time it did not support the 4870, only an earlier model in the range.
>>>>However, it is also a question of ease of use.
>>>>The software that comes with the 4870 makes scanning in, and post
>>>>processing so easy.
>>>>Automatic dust removal.
>>>>Automatic damage repair.
>>>>Automatic unmask sharpening.
>>>>Automatic colour correction, including brightness and contrast.
>>>>Scanning  multiple frames.
>>>>
>>>>When SVista is able to deliver full USB and the rest of Ed's post, I'll
>>>>give it another try.
>>>>
>>>>One area where OS/2 does shine is in image rendering.
>>>>
>>>>PmView Pro renders an image far better than any of the Win98 graphic
>>>>programs.
>>>>This is using all the same hardware except fot the HDD.
>>>>
>>>>Under Pmview the images look sharper and cleaner.
>>>>Under windows the images seem blurred. It maybe that windows is bad at
>>>>rendering a large file to the screen resolution.
>>>>
>>>>Pmview's method of colour, contrast and gamma adjustment is better than
>>>>that used in the windows programs. Unfortunately, it only operates on
>>>>the full image.
>>>>The limited number of effects and their restriction to only the full
>>>>image, severely restricts it's usefulness.
>>>>
>>>>I suppose we have to wait until SVister delivers for an OS/2 solution.
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>
>>>>Dennis
>>>>
>>>>Gavin Miller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Denis,
>>>>>
>>>>>There is a Sane backend for the 4870 that is suposed to be fully
>>>>>functional.  May I ask if it's ok to test it with Tame/2.  It comes
>>>>>with sane 1.0.14 for epson USB, Snapscan USB and SCSI.  The package is
>>>>>tame100.zip and is found on hobbes.  There are instructions in the INF
>>>>>file on what to do to test scanners not listed in the database.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>G
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Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:31:14 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

Ed Durrant said:
> Yes - Canon FB620S AU$99 with Adaptec SCSI card from Strathfield Audio
> about 4 or 5
> years ago.
>> The canon's a scsi right?

talking about scsi scanners, I came across an old HP 2p with **ADF** $30.
I actually have an HP2p with ADF that I bought brand new some ?? years
ago, and, still use. I bought the $30 2p 'just in case'

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Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:41:29 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:56:06 +1100, Gavin Miller wrote:

>Mmmm... don't think I could get one now.
>
>Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>>Yes - Canon FB620S AU$99 with Adaptec SCSI card from Strathfield Audio about 4 or 5
>>years ago.

Hi, Gavin.

You could try picking one up second hand, as Win-freaks dump them for
gee-whiz USB units.

Seeing it uses an Adaptec card, I would hazard a guess that it's got a
bog-standard SCSI interface, instead of one of those cut-down "made for
Canon" connections.

So if you have an existing SCSI card (or a spare slot) it has a fair chance
of working.

I was looking for SCSI units a while ago, and eventually a beneficent OS/2er
gave me a HP3C. I got myself a simple Adaptec 1520 card, and Tame drives it
wonderfully! It's entirely separate from the hard drives on the Buslogic
card, but as Con the Fruiterer would say "Duzzen Madder!"

The only limitation I can see is that the scanner has to be connected and
powered up when I boot the machine, or it won't be found by Tame. That is,
there is no such thing as auto-sensing, but I can live with that.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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Date:  Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:37:33 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners

John Angelico said:
> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:56:06 +1100, Gavin Miller wrote:

>>Ed Durrant wrote:

>
> So if you have an existing SCSI card (or a spare slot) it has a fair
> chance
> of working.
>
> I was looking for SCSI units a while ago, and eventually a beneficent
> OS/2er
> gave me a HP3C. I got myself a simple Adaptec 1520 card, and Tame drives
> it
> wonderfully! It's entirely separate from the hard drives on the Buslogic
> card, but as Con the Fruiterer would say "Duzzen Madder!"

I have on a single Adaptec: 2 HDs (wide internal), CD ROM, DAT (narrow
internal) CDRW and HP 3C/ADF (external)

well, I used to have, anyhow

having recently replaced SCSI 4/6/8 CDRW with IDE 52, same for (2x ? 4x ?
Sony SCSI CDROM (it wouldn't read CDRWs) with IDE CDROM

as much as it all humms along very nicely, I recently dicovered a really
big boo boo: if during scanning I'll do a big HD I/O, like, big XCOPY, I
get a total hard lockup....

never noticed it in the past, so, not sure if it always was the case...
bit annoying, though

> The only limitation I can see is that the scanner has to be connected and
> powered up when I boot the machine, or it won't be found by Tame. That is,
> there is no such thing as auto-sensing, but I can live with that.

yes, that's a SCSI issue

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