Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 945
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:01:08 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

**************************************************
Saturday 25 September 2004
 Number  945
**************************************************

Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  ip telephony for os/2 ? : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
2   Web Browsers : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
3   [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup - Timed for Australia !! : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
4  Re:  [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup - Timed for  Australia !! : Bruce <os2box at niclan.homeip dot net>
5  Re:  [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup - Timed for  Australia !! : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
6  Re:  [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup - Timed for  Australia !! : nickl at pacific dot net dot au
7  Re:  [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup - Timed for  Australia !! : madodel at ptdprolog dot net
8  Re:  [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup -Timed for  Australia !! : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re:  [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup - Timed for  Australia !! : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
10  Re:  [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup -Timed for  Australia !! : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2004 07:27:50 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ip telephony for os/2 ?

Voytek Eymont wrote:

> is there any %subject% ?
>
> what are good apps on windoze for that ?
>
> --
> Voytek

Hi Voytek,

   Was this a reply to someone as there's no text, or are you looking at a need for IP
telephony ?

   There was (of course) IP Phone for OS/2 from IBM some years ago. The problem is
that the server that it needs to operate through is no longer active, hence the client
code becomes pretty useless unless we can get the server code and set something up.

  Perhaps a Windoze product will work via ODIN. The recent versions of ODIN are very
impressive in what they can do. I've just got the latest Notes client (version 6.5.2)
FULLY working under OS/2 with the latest ODIN build. An IP telephony program may have
hooks into specific Microsoft IP stack locations however. Hey but it's probably worth
a try if we can get a trial version of the code !

Cheers/2

Ed.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2004 08:57:09 +1000
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:   Web Browsers

I have just been reading an article at 
http://webmonkey.wired dot com/webmonkey/ on forefox.
They report that firefox 1.0.0 downloads in the first week exceeded 1 
million.
IE has dropped from 85% to 75% since January
and Mozilla usage has roughly doubled, mostly due to firefox.

They also report that google is hireing staff to produce their own browser.

Regards

Dennis.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2004 11:11:58 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup - Timed for Australia !!

For those who don't subscribe to the VoiceNews list - I
thought this may be of interest - As they've timed this one
for our evening - it'd be nice to show support by joining in
!!

  IT'S THIS EVENING !!!

Cheers/2

Ed.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:24:56 -0300
From: madodel at ptdprolog dot net
Reply-To: Roderick Klein
<rwklein at wanadoo.nl>,feedback at os2voice dot org
To: news at os2voice dot org

From: "Roderick Klein" <rwkleinDESPAM at wanadoo.nl> 

Dear OS/2/eComStation user,

It has been sometime ago that VOICE last organized a
SpeakUp. What is a
SpeakUp? Well, its organized via IRC (Internet Relay Chat).
On an IRC
SpeakUp you will get a chance to talk to software
developers, for
instance. The person/organization/company invited for the
SpeakUp will
give a short introduction about himself and the product or
project they
work on. And then the real part of the SpeakUp starts! You
can ask
questions!  Do you like Warpstock (www.warpstock dot org)?
Warpstock is great,
but Warpstock is only organized once a year. Then you will
like VOICE
SpeakUps (depending on the subject, of course). We will try
and organize
SpeakUps every month on a subject of interest.

What is new, is that SpeakUps will be organized twice. The
first VOICE
SpeakUp of the month will be targeted especially at the US.
The second
meeting will be targeted at Asia and Australia. This
targeting will be
accomplished by the timing of the IRC to suit the locale.

The first two VOICE SpeakUp will be organized in September.
The guest on
that SpeakUp will be Jan van Wijk. Author the DFSEE, the
swiss army knife
for hard disk maintenance and data recovery.

The first speakup was on Saturday 11 September 22:00-00:00
GMT. The second
speakup will be on 25 September 10:00-12:00 GMT (targetted
at Asia and
Australia). (Both times are London time!!). Note that local
time in London
will be  from 10:00 to 12:00 on Saturday. In Australia
(Sydney time) it
will be Sunday from 19:00 to 21:00!

Visit http://www.timezoneconverter dot com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc for
timezone help.

To find the server closest to you, go to
http://irc.fyrelizard dot com/ .

Channel #voice can be found on any of these servers.  

If you don't have a IRC client. You can use a web browser to
get on the
IRC VOICE channel. If you use the Mozilla web browser use
the following
link:

irc://irc.fyrelizard dot com/voice

If you don't use Mozilla (Opera or the IBM web browser for
instance) use
the following link 

http://irc.fyrelizard dot com/ (requires JAVA)

"VOICE is an organization dedicated to the promotion of OS/2
Warp and
eComStation to the general consumer through various
activities as
providing current and factual information about OS/2 Warp
and OS/2 related
products, conducting IRC meetings twice a month, and
sponsoring OS/2
promotion related projects among providing many other
services."

Roderick Klein
President

--
 Warpstock 2004, Denver, Colorado, October 21 - 24, 2004 
http://www.warpstock dot org
 Warpstock Europe 2004, Arnhem, The Netherlands, November
26-28th, 2004
http://www.warpstock dot net

 [Moderator's note:  All posts are sent without guarantee to
the 
  accuracy of the content.  We try to verify details and
URLs but
  this is an entirely volunteer run list, so 100% fact
checking and 
  the quality/useability of products announced here is
impossible.

  If you respond to this post please remove the DESPAM from
the
  poster's email addresses.   Please do not send requests
for information
  about a specific post to the moderator unless it is an
update or I sent
it.]

-- 

To unsubscribe yourself from this list, send the following
message
to majormajor at os2voice dot org

     unsubscribe news
     end

Or, visit http://www.os2voice dot org/MailingLists.html

If you have an announcement you would like posted to the
VOICE 
News list, please send it to submit at os2voice dot org. Please
include a 
valid reply address and a real contact name.  If you wish to
comment
on this post, please reply to feedback at os2voice dot org
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:40:01 +0800
From:  Bruce <os2box at niclan.homeip dot net>
Subject:  Re:  [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup - Timed for  Australia !!

Thanks for the tip: I usually don't read the e-mail when their having a 
Speakout... too early in the mornings... :-)
However, I think they have their times wrong. Would it not be like this:

10:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in Etc/GMT converts to
20:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in Australia/Sydney

I am actually in Perth Australia, So for me it's 1800hrs

Ed Durrant wrote:

>For those who don't subscribe to the VoiceNews list - I
>thought this may be of interest - As they've timed this one
>for our evening - it'd be nice to show support by joining in
>!!
>
>  IT'S THIS EVENING !!!
>
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:24:56 -0300
>From: madodel at ptdprolog dot net
>Reply-To: Roderick Klein
><rwklein at wanadoo.nl>,feedback at os2voice dot org
>To: news at os2voice dot org
>
>
>From: "Roderick Klein" <rwkleinDESPAM at wanadoo.nl> 
>
>Dear OS/2/eComStation user,
>
>It has been sometime ago that VOICE last organized a
>SpeakUp. What is a
>SpeakUp? Well, its organized via IRC (Internet Relay Chat).
>On an IRC
>SpeakUp you will get a chance to talk to software
>developers, for
>instance. The person/organization/company invited for the
>SpeakUp will
>give a short introduction about himself and the product or
>project they
>work on. And then the real part of the SpeakUp starts! You
>can ask
>questions!  Do you like Warpstock (www.warpstock dot org)?
>Warpstock is great,
>but Warpstock is only organized once a year. Then you will
>like VOICE
>SpeakUps (depending on the subject, of course). We will try
>and organize
>SpeakUps every month on a subject of interest.
>
>What is new, is that SpeakUps will be organized twice. The
>first VOICE
>SpeakUp of the month will be targeted especially at the US.
>The second
>meeting will be targeted at Asia and Australia. This
>targeting will be
>accomplished by the timing of the IRC to suit the locale.
>
>The first two VOICE SpeakUp will be organized in September.
>The guest on
>that SpeakUp will be Jan van Wijk. Author the DFSEE, the
>swiss army knife
>for hard disk maintenance and data recovery.
>
>The first speakup was on Saturday 11 September 22:00-00:00
>GMT. The second
>speakup will be on 25 September 10:00-12:00 GMT (targetted
>at Asia and
>Australia). (Both times are London time!!). Note that local
>time in London
>will be  from 10:00 to 12:00 on Saturday. In Australia
>(Sydney time) it
>will be Sunday from 19:00 to 21:00!
>
>Visit http://www.timezoneconverter dot com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc for
>timezone help.
>
>To find the server closest to you, go to
>http://irc.fyrelizard dot com/ .
>
>Channel #voice can be found on any of these servers.  
>
>If you don't have a IRC client. You can use a web browser to
>get on the
>IRC VOICE channel. If you use the Mozilla web browser use
>the following
>link:
>
>irc://irc.fyrelizard dot com/voice
>
>If you don't use Mozilla (Opera or the IBM web browser for
>instance) use
>the following link 
>
>http://irc.fyrelizard dot com/ (requires JAVA)
>
>"VOICE is an organization dedicated to the promotion of OS/2
>Warp and
>eComStation to the general consumer through various
>activities as
>providing current and factual information about OS/2 Warp
>and OS/2 related
>products, conducting IRC meetings twice a month, and
>sponsoring OS/2
>promotion related projects among providing many other
>services."
>
>Roderick Klein
>President
>
>
>
>
>--
> Warpstock 2004, Denver, Colorado, October 21 - 24, 2004 
>http://www.warpstock dot org
> Warpstock Europe 2004, Arnhem, The Netherlands, November
>26-28th, 2004
>http://www.warpstock dot net
>
> [Moderator's note:  All posts are sent without guarantee to
>the 
>  accuracy of the content.  We try to verify details and
>URLs but
>  this is an entirely volunteer run list, so 100% fact
>checking and 
>  the quality/useability of products announced here is
>impossible.
>
>  If you respond to this post please remove the DESPAM from
>the
>  poster's email addresses.   Please do not send requests
>for information
>  about a specific post to the moderator unless it is an
>update or I sent
>it.]
>
>  
>

[attachments have been removed]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2004 11:59:38 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup - Timed for  Australia !!

Bruce wrote:

> Thanks for the tip: I usually don't read the e-mail when their having 
> a Speakout... too early in the mornings... :-)
> However, I think they have their times wrong. Would it not be like this:
>
> 10:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in Etc/GMT converts to
> 20:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in Australia/Sydney
>
> I am actually in Perth Australia, So for me it's 1800hrs
>
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>> For those who don't subscribe to the VoiceNews list - I
>> thought this may be of interest - As they've timed this one
>> for our evening - it'd be nice to show support by joining in
>> !!
>>
>>  IT'S THIS EVENING !!! 
>

Hi Bruce, Ed,

Ed had it right when he said tonight, despite Roderick getting the day 
as Sunday here, so having only just noticed Ed's posting I already sent 
a mail off to Roderick to advise him that it's still Saturday here also.

-- 
Regards,
Mike

Failed the exam for
--------------------
MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert
--------------------
[ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, *.bat, *.reg attachments]
[Please use zipped versions of above]

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:48:47 +0900
From:  nickl at pacific dot net dot au
Subject:  Re:  [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup - Timed for  Australia !!

Hi Ed.

In <4154C5DE.A985B408 at bigpond dot net dot au>, on 09/25/2004 
   at 11:11 AM, Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> said:

>For those who don't subscribe to the VoiceNews list - I
>thought this may be of interest - As they've timed this one
>for our evening - it'd be nice to show support by joining in !!

>  IT'S THIS EVENING !!!

Just tried the connection they gave me....I can see Hoss and Chrissy, but
no other action. Either I'm 12 hours early (preferred), or I missed it
(typical!).

We are 2 hours behind you....From memory, I believe you all change on the
Bathurst (8 Hour day) Long Weekend....then we're 3 hours behind.

I'll try tonight at 1930 to be sure. Have just seen Mike's letter, so it
could be interesting.

NICK

>Cheers/2

>Ed.

>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:24:56 -0300
>From: madodel at ptdprolog dot net
>Reply-To: Roderick Klein
><rwklein at wanadoo.nl>,feedback at os2voice dot org
>To: news at os2voice dot org

>From: "Roderick Klein" <rwkleinDESPAM at wanadoo.nl> 

>Dear OS/2/eComStation user,

>It has been sometime ago that VOICE last organized a
>SpeakUp. What is a
>SpeakUp? Well, its organized via IRC (Internet Relay Chat).
>On an IRC
>SpeakUp you will get a chance to talk to software
>developers, for
>instance. The person/organization/company invited for the
>SpeakUp will
>give a short introduction about himself and the product or
>project they
>work on. And then the real part of the SpeakUp starts! You
>can ask
>questions!  Do you like Warpstock (www.warpstock dot org)?
>Warpstock is great,
>but Warpstock is only organized once a year. Then you will
>like VOICE
>SpeakUps (depending on the subject, of course). We will try
>and organize
>SpeakUps every month on a subject of interest.

>What is new, is that SpeakUps will be organized twice. The
>first VOICE
>SpeakUp of the month will be targeted especially at the US.
>The second
>meeting will be targeted at Asia and Australia. This
>targeting will be
>accomplished by the timing of the IRC to suit the locale.

>The first two VOICE SpeakUp will be organized in September.
>The guest on
>that SpeakUp will be Jan van Wijk. Author the DFSEE, the
>swiss army knife
>for hard disk maintenance and data recovery.

>The first speakup was on Saturday 11 September 22:00-00:00
>GMT. The second
>speakup will be on 25 September 10:00-12:00 GMT (targetted
>at Asia and
>Australia). (Both times are London time!!). Note that local
>time in London
>will be  from 10:00 to 12:00 on Saturday. In Australia
>(Sydney time) it
>will be Sunday from 19:00 to 21:00!

>Visit http://www.timezoneconverter dot com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc for
>timezone help.

>To find the server closest to you, go to
>http://irc.fyrelizard dot com/ .

>Channel #voice can be found on any of these servers.  

>If you don't have a IRC client. You can use a web browser to get on the
>IRC VOICE channel. If you use the Mozilla web browser use
>the following
>link:

>irc://irc.fyrelizard dot com/voice

>If you don't use Mozilla (Opera or the IBM web browser for
>instance) use
>the following link 

>http://irc.fyrelizard dot com/ (requires JAVA)

>"VOICE is an organization dedicated to the promotion of OS/2 Warp and
>eComStation to the general consumer through various
>activities as
>providing current and factual information about OS/2 Warp
>and OS/2 related
>products, conducting IRC meetings twice a month, and
>sponsoring OS/2
>promotion related projects among providing many other
>services."

>Roderick Klein
>President

>--
> Warpstock 2004, Denver, Colorado, October 21 - 24, 2004 
>http://www.warpstock dot org
> Warpstock Europe 2004, Arnhem, The Netherlands, November
>26-28th, 2004
>http://www.warpstock dot net

> [Moderator's note:  All posts are sent without guarantee to the 
>  accuracy of the content.  We try to verify details and
>URLs but
>  this is an entirely volunteer run list, so 100% fact
>checking and 
>  the quality/useability of products announced here is
>impossible.

>  If you respond to this post please remove the DESPAM from
>the
>  poster's email addresses.   Please do not send requests
>for information
>  about a specific post to the moderator unless it is an
>update or I sent
>it.]

-----------------------------------------------------------
nickl at pacific dot net dot au
-----------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:19:12 -0300
From:  madodel at ptdprolog dot net
Subject:  Re:  [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup - Timed for  Australia !!

In <200409250204.i8P24ExO024657 at mailproxy2.pacific dot net dot au>, on 09/25/04 at
09:48 AM,
   nickl at pacific dot net dot au said:

>Hi Ed.

>In <4154C5DE.A985B408 at bigpond dot net dot au>, on 09/25/2004 
>   at 11:11 AM, Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> said:

>>For those who don't subscribe to the VoiceNews list - I
>>thought this may be of interest - As they've timed this one
>>for our evening - it'd be nice to show support by joining in !!

>>  IT'S THIS EVENING !!!

>Just tried the connection they gave me....I can see Hoss and Chrissy, but
>no other action. Either I'm 12 hours early (preferred), or I missed it
>(typical!).

>We are 2 hours behind you....From memory, I believe you all change on the
>Bathurst (8 Hour day) Long Weekend....then we're 3 hours behind.

>I'll try tonight at 1930 to be sure. Have just seen Mike's letter, so it
>could be interesting.

From: http://www.timezoneconverter dot com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc

 10:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in GMT converts to
 20:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in Australia/Sydney
 06:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in America/New_York

Mark 

-- 

 From the eComStation Desktop of: Mark Dodel

 Warpstock 2004, Denver, Colorado, October 21 - 24, 2004  http://www.warpstock dot org
 Warpstock Europe 2004, Arnhem, The Netherlands, November 26-28th, 2004 http://www.warpstock dot net

For a choice in the future of personal computing, Join VOICE - http://www.os2voice dot org

  "The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself.   That in it's essence, is Fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any controlling private power." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Message proposing the Monopoly Investigation, 1938 

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2004 17:55:30 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup -Timed for  Australia !!

Yes - we may think we're way ahead of Europe but 34 hours ahead, simply isn't possible
!  I'll rib Roderick about his calculations !!

It start's in an Hour.  All that can attend, should to reflect the activity here in
Australia !

Cheers/2

Ed.

Bruce wrote:

> Thanks for the tip: I usually don't read the e-mail when their having a
> Speakout... too early in the mornings... :-)
> However, I think they have their times wrong. Would it not be like this:
>
> 10:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in Etc/GMT converts to
> 20:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in Australia/Sydney
>
> I am actually in Perth Australia, So for me it's 1800hrs
>
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
> >For those who don't subscribe to the VoiceNews list - I
> >thought this may be of interest - As they've timed this one
> >for our evening - it'd be nice to show support by joining in
> >!!
> >
> >  IT'S THIS EVENING !!!
> >
> >
> >Cheers/2
> >
> >Ed.
> >
> >
> >-------- Original Message --------
> >Subject: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup
> >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:24:56 -0300
> >From: madodel at ptdprolog dot net
> >Reply-To: Roderick Klein
> ><rwklein at wanadoo.nl>,feedback at os2voice dot org
> >To: news at os2voice dot org
> >
> >
> >From: "Roderick Klein" <rwkleinDESPAM at wanadoo.nl>
> >
> >Dear OS/2/eComStation user,
> >
> >It has been sometime ago that VOICE last organized a
> >SpeakUp. What is a
> >SpeakUp? Well, its organized via IRC (Internet Relay Chat).
> >On an IRC
> >SpeakUp you will get a chance to talk to software
> >developers, for
> >instance. The person/organization/company invited for the
> >SpeakUp will
> >give a short introduction about himself and the product or
> >project they
> >work on. And then the real part of the SpeakUp starts! You
> >can ask
> >questions!  Do you like Warpstock (www.warpstock dot org)?
> >Warpstock is great,
> >but Warpstock is only organized once a year. Then you will
> >like VOICE
> >SpeakUps (depending on the subject, of course). We will try
> >and organize
> >SpeakUps every month on a subject of interest.
> >
> >What is new, is that SpeakUps will be organized twice. The
> >first VOICE
> >SpeakUp of the month will be targeted especially at the US.
> >The second
> >meeting will be targeted at Asia and Australia. This
> >targeting will be
> >accomplished by the timing of the IRC to suit the locale.
> >
> >The first two VOICE SpeakUp will be organized in September.
> >The guest on
> >that SpeakUp will be Jan van Wijk. Author the DFSEE, the
> >swiss army knife
> >for hard disk maintenance and data recovery.
> >
> >The first speakup was on Saturday 11 September 22:00-00:00
> >GMT. The second
> >speakup will be on 25 September 10:00-12:00 GMT (targetted
> >at Asia and
> >Australia). (Both times are London time!!). Note that local
> >time in London
> >will be  from 10:00 to 12:00 on Saturday. In Australia
> >(Sydney time) it
> >will be Sunday from 19:00 to 21:00!
> >
> >Visit http://www.timezoneconverter dot com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc for
> >timezone help.
> >
> >To find the server closest to you, go to
> >http://irc.fyrelizard dot com/ .
> >
> >Channel #voice can be found on any of these servers.
> >
> >If you don't have a IRC client. You can use a web browser to
> >get on the
> >IRC VOICE channel. If you use the Mozilla web browser use
> >the following
> >link:
> >
> >irc://irc.fyrelizard dot com/voice
> >
> >If you don't use Mozilla (Opera or the IBM web browser for
> >instance) use
> >the following link
> >
> >http://irc.fyrelizard dot com/ (requires JAVA)
> >
> >"VOICE is an organization dedicated to the promotion of OS/2
> >Warp and
> >eComStation to the general consumer through various
> >activities as
> >providing current and factual information about OS/2 Warp
> >and OS/2 related
> >products, conducting IRC meetings twice a month, and
> >sponsoring OS/2
> >promotion related projects among providing many other
> >services."
> >
> >Roderick Klein
> >President
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> > Warpstock 2004, Denver, Colorado, October 21 - 24, 2004
> >http://www.warpstock dot org
> > Warpstock Europe 2004, Arnhem, The Netherlands, November
> >26-28th, 2004
> >http://www.warpstock dot net
> >
> > [Moderator's note:  All posts are sent without guarantee to
> >the
> >  accuracy of the content.  We try to verify details and
> >URLs but
> >  this is an entirely volunteer run list, so 100% fact
> >checking and
> >  the quality/useability of products announced here is
> >impossible.
> >
> >  If you respond to this post please remove the DESPAM from
> >the
> >  poster's email addresses.   Please do not send requests
> >for information
> >  about a specific post to the moderator unless it is an
> >update or I sent
> >it.]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [attachments have been removed]

>  

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:00:54 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup - Timed for  Australia !!

madodel at ptdprolog dot net schreef:

>From: http://www.timezoneconverter dot com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
>
> 10:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in GMT converts to
> 20:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in Australia/Sydney
> 06:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in America/New_York
>
>  
>
????

If you mean by GMT Greenich Mean Time,  then my first remark already is 
GMT isn't used anymore but  UTC instead.
Furthermore, afaik, Greenich  (the zero meridian) is situated in old 
Albion, the  United Kingdom,  England,  Mr Bush vassal territory ... 
call it  what you like  it to call.

Now, when it is Saturday 00:01 at Greenich (one minute past midnight) 
then it is already Saturday 12:01 (midday + 1 minute) in new Zealand, 
globally spoken not that far away from Oz iirc), and is it STILL Friday 
16:01 at the East coast of Mr Bush territory. May very 2 hours due to 
DSL of course.

 Pull yourself together guys, AND do install WorldClock!

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2004 18:02:38 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  [Fwd: [VOICENWS] VOICE: Reminder second OS/2 speakup -Timed for  Australia !!

Crikey - forgot summer time ...

OK according to http://www.timeanddate dot com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=25&month=9&year=2004&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=0

10am UTC/GMT is 8PM in Sydney - so this would make the call 20:00 - 22:00 AUS EST.

Cheers/2

Ed.

madodel at ptdprolog dot net wrote:

> In <200409250204.i8P24ExO024657 at mailproxy2.pacific dot net dot au>, on 09/25/04 at
> 09:48 AM,
>    nickl at pacific dot net dot au said:
>
> >Hi Ed.
>
> >In <4154C5DE.A985B408 at bigpond dot net dot au>, on 09/25/2004
> >   at 11:11 AM, Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> said:
>
> >>For those who don't subscribe to the VoiceNews list - I
> >>thought this may be of interest - As they've timed this one
> >>for our evening - it'd be nice to show support by joining in !!
>
> >>  IT'S THIS EVENING !!!
>
> >Just tried the connection they gave me....I can see Hoss and Chrissy, but
> >no other action. Either I'm 12 hours early (preferred), or I missed it
> >(typical!).
>
> >We are 2 hours behind you....From memory, I believe you all change on the
> >Bathurst (8 Hour day) Long Weekend....then we're 3 hours behind.
>
> >I'll try tonight at 1930 to be sure. Have just seen Mike's letter, so it
> >could be interesting.
>
> From: http://www.timezoneconverter dot com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
>
>  10:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in GMT converts to
>  20:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in Australia/Sydney
>  06:00:00 Sat Sep 25 2004 in America/New_York
>
> Mark
>
> --
>
>  From the eComStation Desktop of: Mark Dodel
>
>  Warpstock 2004, Denver, Colorado, October 21 - 24, 2004  http://www.warpstock dot org
>  Warpstock Europe 2004, Arnhem, The Netherlands, November 26-28th, 2004 http://www.warpstock dot net
>
> For a choice in the future of personal computing, Join VOICE - http://www.os2voice dot org
>
>   "The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself.   That in it's essence, is Fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any controlling private power." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Message proposing the Monopoly Investigation, 1938
>

>  

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------