Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 856
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 00:01:10 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Thursday 13 May 2004
 Number  856
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  [nb2discuss] Thinkpad 390E Etherjet Progress!! : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
2  Re:  [nb2discuss] Thinkpad 390E Etherjet Progress!! : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re:  [nb2discuss] Thinkpad 390E Etherjet Progress?? : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>

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Date:  Thu, 13 May 2004 11:58:49 +1000 (AEST)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  [nb2discuss] Thinkpad 390E Etherjet Progress!!

Hi Mike and Ed.

Answering you in one email

On Wed, 12 May 2004 22:57:27 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote:

>
>Hi John,
>Just in case you haven't already been down this lane -:
>Is the UID on that non-communicating machine registered with the other 
>machines on the LAN?

Sorry don't understand that abbrev. UID - please elaborate...

>As pinging isn't working with elsewhere, In the \mptn\bin\mptconfg.ini 
>check the IP dotted quad addresses, and check ditto in the setup.cmd in 
>the same directory.

Done and checked OK.

and
On Wed, 12 May 2004 22:53:04 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>OK, so we still have a problem at the IP or cable level. 

I "sorta" don't think so. See below re hardware swapping...

>You can ping the system itself but nothing outside of the system. I think once Ping works externally, Net View will as well.
>
>Can any of the other machines Ping this machine ? (Sorry if you already answered).

Not answered but no - they can all ping each other OK but not the 390E. It
looks as if the machine is totally isolated and the existing network has no
idea that another machine has been added. 

>
>Are all systems on the same subnet with the same subnet mask ?

Yes: 255.255.255.0

>
>Are all systems configured to use the same DNSes (not relevant yet but should be the same), or do you use a HOSTS file and if so is it the same on all systems ?

Hosts is the same on all existing systems:
localhost 127.0.0.1

Hosts on the 390E has 127.0.0.1 plus correct IP addresses for all the
machines on the rest of the network:
192.168.0.1 2 3 and 4 

The 390E is 192.168.0.5
192.168.0.2 is the other laptop 760EL which is rarely on at the same time as
the 390E.

>I guess you don't have a second, identical card that you could swop in to test for hardware failure ??

No but in a Win98 machine I have used the same card and connector on the same
cables to successfully access the ATO website and collect GST data. 

Unfortunately, I have been unable to decode Windows setups enough to figure
out what it does, and to transfer that to eCS.

We just tested again by removing 390E and putting 760EL in its place. Plugged
card into slot, fired up Netscape, which immediately found a bookmark file on
another machine in the network, then went via our local cache on separate
machine out to www successfully.

>There are *NO* errors at boot up now, right ??

Correct. <PHEW!>  I'm always nervous about errors in the boot sequence...

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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Date:  Thu, 13 May 2004 21:28:22 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  [nb2discuss] Thinkpad 390E Etherjet Progress!!

John Angelico wrote:

>
> We just tested again by removing 390E and putting 760EL in its place. Plugged
> card into slot, fired up Netscape, which immediately found a bookmark file on
> another machine in the network, then went via our local cache on separate
> machine out to www successfully.
>

When you say put it in its place, do you mean you took the IBM etherjet PC-CARD out of the TP390 and put it into the TP-760EL and everything worked ?  If so compare
driver versions and check what IO address and IRQ you're using on the TP760EL.

I still rather think you have an IO or IRQ conflict. Does running rmview /IRQ and rmview /IO without the card in at all and then with the card in indicate and
duplication of usage ?

cheers/2

Ed.

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Date:  Thu, 13 May 2004 23:30:57 +1000 (AEST)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  [nb2discuss] Thinkpad 390E Etherjet Progress??

On Thu, 13 May 2004 21:28:22 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

Hi Ed

>John Angelico wrote:
>
>>
>> We just tested again by removing 390E and putting 760EL in its place. Plugged
>> card into slot, fired up Netscape, which immediately found a bookmark file on
>> another machine in the network, then went via our local cache on separate
>> machine out to www successfully.
>>
>
>When you say put it in its place, do you mean you took the IBM etherjet PC-CARD out of the TP390 and put it into the TP-760EL and everything worked ?  

Yes. Exactly. We physically removed the 390 put the 760 in place and plugged
in the card.

>If so compare
>driver versions and check what IO address and IRQ you're using on the TP760EL.

The TP760EL is running Win98. As I said, it's not easy to find where Win puts
all that stuff.

>I still rather think you have an IO or IRQ conflict. 
>Does running rmview /IRQ and rmview /IO without 
>the card in at all and then with the card in indicate 
>and duplication of usage ?

No, there is no evidence there of any conflict. We have tried putting the
card in each slot, same results.
View reports are clearly showing IRQ and IO allocated and then absent when
the card is removed.

Trying again with Win98.
Again, no problems - resources allocated, not real hot swapping as with PC
Card Director, but card can be stopped, removed, re-inserted and recognised.

Win resources are IRQ9 and IO 1000-100F

eCS resources are IRQ5 (not used by sound or LPT) and 0200-020F. No provision
for shared memory, so not looking for it. When we tried IRQ3 PCC told us we
had a conflict there.

Have tested with IRQ 10 and IO base 300 with no further success, but no loss
- still able to hot swap card, recognise, and allocate resources.

Giving up for the night - dispirited, I'm afraid.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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