Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 774
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:01:04 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Saturday 10 January 2004
 Number  774
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  hp 5p : Daryl Pilkington <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
2  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2 : Daryl Pilkington <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
3  Re:  hp 5p : David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
4  Re:  hp 5p : Daryl Pilkington <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
5  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
6  Re:  hp 5p : nickl at pacific dot net dot au
7  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2 : David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
8  Re:  hp 5p : David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re:  XP and HPFS visibility [was hp 5p] : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
10  Re:  XP and HPFS visibility [was hp 5p] : David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
11  Re:  XP and HPFS visibility [was hp 5p] : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
12  Re:  Compaq laptop on sale at Office Works : David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
13  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
14  Re:  HPFS access (was hp 5p) : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
15  Re:  HPFS access (was hp 5p) : Daryl Pilkington <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
16  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2 : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
17  Re:  HPFS access (was hp 5p) : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
18  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
19  Re:  HPFS access (was hp 5p) : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
20  Re:  Compaq laptop on sale at Office Works : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
21  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2 : David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
22  Re:  HPFS access (was hp 5p) : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
23  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
24  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2 : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
25  Re:  eCS Woes : Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net>
26  Re:  eCS Woes : Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net>
27  Re:  eCS Woes : Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net>
28  Re:  eCS Woes : Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net>
29  Re:  eCS Woes : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 00:16:16 +1100
From:  Daryl Pilkington <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re:  hp 5p

Hi Nick,
Google is your friend:
+53c416 +os/2

1st on your list solves your problem ;)

nickl at pacific dot net dot au wrote:
> 
SNIP
> 
> Now, I have "inherited" another HP5p, with the original ISA SCSI Card. At
> this point I haven't got it going with my sons old P200MMX, and worse, the
> ISA SB16 Card says "it can't be detected..." Does this look like some DMA,
> IRQ problem (which I don't have the faintest idea of waht to do about it).
> 
> The next problem is (and it's probably the "inheritance" reason) the
> former owner (only being 10 yo at the time) moved the scanner without
> locking it, and it doesn't scan so well under Wintendo. It may be only a
> matter of mirror adjustment....but is it a big job, as it would be a shame
> to cast it to the outer reaches, as they are so good when they work.
>

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 00:23:51 +1100
From:  Daryl Pilkington <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2

Hi All,
UDF packet writing is a Dog on any OS.
Even Windoze users don't recommend using it.

I've been fiddling around with it on W2k using inCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2 
using the IBM UDF drivers 2.1.2.

It is buggy & unreliable. Sometimes it works, other times you simply end 
up with an unusable CD-RW or DVD-RW that can't even be blanked using 
cdrecord/2.

Blanking usually allows it to be used by RSJ 5.05 as a conventional 
CD-XA multi-session CD.

Multi-session CD-XA is the way to go if you want something to work, & I 
do:- I want to use them for server backups.

Daryl Pilkington wrote:

> Hi All,
> Will OS/2 read DVD-RW that are made with InCD 4.0.1.27 file system?
> What file systems can OS/2 read/write from DVD-RW?
>

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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 09 Jan 2004 23:40:28 +1000
From:  "David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  hp 5p

Sorry, in my earleir post i said teh HP symbios scsi card was not PNP, but it is.  However it conflcits with teh 
SB16 PNP card - I know because it happened to me once before I ditched it for my SB16 combo scsi 2 card.

The FAQ you referred to provides teh switches to change teh IRQ for teh symbios and provides teh drivers, 
which are also on Hobbes.

By the way Daryl, all of your posts are done using Mozilla under Win (2K I presume) - why not OS/2??  I only 
checked as I am usually curiosu to see what email program os/2 users use.

David

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 00:16:16 +1100, Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Hi Nick,
>Google is your friend:
>+53c416 +os/2
>
>1st on your list solves your problem ;)
>
>
>nickl at pacific dot net dot au wrote:
>> 
>SNIP
>> 
>> Now, I have "inherited" another HP5p, with the original ISA SCSI Card. At
>> this point I haven't got it going with my sons old P200MMX, and worse, the
>> ISA SB16 Card says "it can't be detected..." Does this look like some DMA,
>> IRQ problem (which I don't have the faintest idea of waht to do about it).
>> 
>> The next problem is (and it's probably the "inheritance" reason) the
>> former owner (only being 10 yo at the time) moved the scanner without
>> locking it, and it doesn't scan so well under Wintendo. It may be only a
>> matter of mirror adjustment....but is it a big job, as it would be a shame
>> to cast it to the outer reaches, as they are so good when they work.
>>
>

> 

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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 01:08:57 +1100
From:  Daryl Pilkington <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re:  hp 5p

Hi Dave,
I only have 1 client using OS/2, the rest are using W2k or WinXP with 
OS/2 servers. Because of this & the fact that usually you have to fight 
to get apps to work on OS/2 it is quicker to do initial testing on W2k 
or WinXP.

The security problems with W2k & WinXP are manageable & after all is 
said & done, I can get more work done these days using Linux or Windoze 
than OS/2. Lots of quality Linux apps are being ported to Windoze 1st, 
with OS/2 being many months later.

Thunderbird 3.0 is not as stable on my client's OS/2 PC as on my own W2k 
PC, but based on my evaluation on W2k, I configured it on my client's 
OS/2 box.

Installing it on OS/2 took about 3 times as long because it does not 
play nice with Mozilla, but nevertheless, I got it installed.
With its unicode, spam filtering & HTML support, Thunderbird is a vast 
improvement on PMMail.

I'm observing patiently the install problems of Open Office/2, before I 
install it on my own PCs. It just installs no hassles on WinXP or W2k & 
have already given it to one client already.

David Shearer wrote:

> Sorry, in my earleir post i said teh HP symbios scsi card was not PNP, but it is.  However it conflcits with teh 
> SB16 PNP card - I know because it happened to me once before I ditched it for my SB16 combo scsi 2 card.
> 
> The FAQ you referred to provides teh switches to change teh IRQ for teh symbios and provides teh drivers, 
> which are also on Hobbes.
> 
> By the way Daryl, all of your posts are done using Mozilla under Win (2K I presume) - why not OS/2??  I only 
> checked as I am usually curiosu to see what email program os/2 users use.
>

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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:27:53 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2

Hi Daryl,

  I have to say that so far my results are quite  different. I realise you have
probably done far more testing than I have, however I find DVD-RW writing to mt
Pioneer DVR-105 to be quite acceptable speed and I haven't had the "coaster problem"
that you refer to. Can you confirm that you have these problems on both DVD-RW AND
DVD+RW, I suspect you will find DVD+RW on your drive is OK (Mine can only do DVD-RW,
Daryl's drive is a multiformat DVD-106 drive).

Cheers/2

Ed.

Daryl Pilkington wrote:

> Hi All,
> UDF packet writing is a Dog on any OS.
> Even Windoze users don't recommend using it.
>
> I've been fiddling around with it on W2k using inCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2
> using the IBM UDF drivers 2.1.2.
>
> It is buggy & unreliable. Sometimes it works, other times you simply end
> up with an unusable CD-RW or DVD-RW that can't even be blanked using
> cdrecord/2.
>
> Blanking usually allows it to be used by RSJ 5.05 as a conventional
> CD-XA multi-session CD.
>
> Multi-session CD-XA is the way to go if you want something to work, & I
> do:- I want to use them for server backups.
>
> Daryl Pilkington wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > Will OS/2 read DVD-RW that are made with InCD 4.0.1.27 file system?
> > What file systems can OS/2 read/write from DVD-RW?
> >
>

>  

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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:55:06 +0800
From:  nickl at pacific dot net dot au
Subject:  Re:  hp 5p

Hi Daryl.

In <3FFEA9A0.8070604 at home.dialix dot com>, on 01/10/2004 
   at 12:16 AM, Daryl Pilkington <u3232 at home.dialix dot com> said:

>Hi Nick,
>Google is your friend:
>+53c416 +os/2

>1st on your list solves your problem ;)

Thanks for that. I've had that on a disk for a long time, and didn't think
of using it.

I'll see how I go.

Thanks

NICK

>nickl at pacific dot net dot au wrote:
>> 
>SNIP
>> 
>> Now, I have "inherited" another HP5p, with the original ISA SCSI Card. At
>> this point I haven't got it going with my sons old P200MMX, and worse, the
>> ISA SB16 Card says "it can't be detected..." Does this look like some DMA,
>> IRQ problem (which I don't have the faintest idea of waht to do about it).
>> 
>> The next problem is (and it's probably the "inheritance" reason) the
>> former owner (only being 10 yo at the time) moved the scanner without
>> locking it, and it doesn't scan so well under Wintendo. It may be only a
>> matter of mirror adjustment....but is it a big job, as it would be a shame
>> to cast it to the outer reaches, as they are so good when they work.
>>

> 

WOOHOO!! - Windows not found: (C)heer (P)arty (D)ance
                  Turn on TURBO mode   
-----------------------------------------------------------
nickl at pacific dot net dot au
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:27:15 +1000
From:  "David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2

I have a MATSHITA DVD Burner - 2 speed,  -R, -RW format.  What are my burning options under OS/2?.  I 
am obviously interested in doing backups.  Todate I have backed up stuff under WinXP (I have access to my 
HPFS partitions under WinXP) but have not yet tried to burn a DVD under OS/2 yet.  I have RSJ 5.02.

I understand RSJ can do DVD burning - any experience with it?  Is UDF a problem?  I found using with with 
CDRW's was quite slow.

Regards

David

(PS I have turned my spell check back on in PMMail - sorry for the poor spelling before).  

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:27:53 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Hi Daryl,
>
>  I have to say that so far my results are quite  different. I realise you have
>probably done far more testing than I have, however I find DVD-RW writing to mt
>Pioneer DVR-105 to be quite acceptable speed and I haven't had the "coaster problem"
>that you refer to. Can you confirm that you have these problems on both DVD-RW AND
>DVD+RW, I suspect you will find DVD+RW on your drive is OK (Mine can only do DVD-RW,
>Daryl's drive is a multiformat DVD-106 drive).
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>Daryl Pilkington wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> UDF packet writing is a Dog on any OS.
>> Even Windoze users don't recommend using it.
>>
>> I've been fiddling around with it on W2k using inCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2
>> using the IBM UDF drivers 2.1.2.
>>
>> It is buggy & unreliable. Sometimes it works, other times you simply end
>> up with an unusable CD-RW or DVD-RW that can't even be blanked using
>> cdrecord/2.
>>
>> Blanking usually allows it to be used by RSJ 5.05 as a conventional
>> CD-XA multi-session CD.
>>
>> Multi-session CD-XA is the way to go if you want something to work, & I
>> do:- I want to use them for server backups.
>>
>> Daryl Pilkington wrote:
>>
>> > Hi All,
>> > Will OS/2 read DVD-RW that are made with InCD 4.0.1.27 file system?
>> > What file systems can OS/2 read/write from DVD-RW?
>> >
>>
>
>>  
>
>

> 

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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:32:45 +1000
From:  "David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  hp 5p

Fair enough!

I had no problem installing OO/2 - it did not crash with the many tasks I threw at it.  If this is just a beta, I 
wonder what the final one will look like

Whilst I am not an IT professional, and I can understand that Windows is easier to manage,  I prefer using 
eCs/OS/2 as it is more of a challenge - which is half the fun. Linux is much the same (but a lot harder to learn) 
- I gave it a try a couple of times and went back to OS/2.  WinXP for me is the most stable Windows (I never 
tried W2K) and is the only version I would run.  Surprisingly you can still access HPFS partitions - so long as 
they are relatively small eg less than 4GB?)

David

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 01:08:57 +1100, Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Hi Dave,
>I only have 1 client using OS/2, the rest are using W2k or WinXP with 
>OS/2 servers. Because of this & the fact that usually you have to fight 
>to get apps to work on OS/2 it is quicker to do initial testing on W2k 
>or WinXP.
>
>The security problems with W2k & WinXP are manageable & after all is 
>said & done, I can get more work done these days using Linux or Windoze 
>than OS/2. Lots of quality Linux apps are being ported to Windoze 1st, 
>with OS/2 being many months later.
>
>Thunderbird 3.0 is not as stable on my client's OS/2 PC as on my own W2k 
>PC, but based on my evaluation on W2k, I configured it on my client's 
>OS/2 box.
>
>Installing it on OS/2 took about 3 times as long because it does not 
>play nice with Mozilla, but nevertheless, I got it installed.
>With its unicode, spam filtering & HTML support, Thunderbird is a vast 
>improvement on PMMail.
>
>I'm observing patiently the install problems of Open Office/2, before I 
>install it on my own PCs. It just installs no hassles on WinXP or W2k & 
>have already given it to one client already.
>
>
>David Shearer wrote:
>
>> Sorry, in my earleir post i said teh HP symbios scsi card was not PNP, but it is.  However it conflcits with 
teh 
>> SB16 PNP card - I know because it happened to me once before I ditched it for my SB16 combo scsi 2 
card.
>> 
>> The FAQ you referred to provides teh switches to change teh IRQ for teh symbios and provides teh 
drivers, 
>> which are also on Hobbes.
>> 
>> By the way Daryl, all of your posts are done using Mozilla under Win (2K I presume) - why not OS/2??  I 
only 
>> checked as I am usually curiosu to see what email program os/2 users use.
>>
>

> 

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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:57:14 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  XP and HPFS visibility [was hp 5p]

David Shearer wrote:

>WinXP for me is the most stable Windows (I never tried W2K) and is the only version I would run.  Surprisingly you can still access HPFS partitions - so long as they are relatively small eg less than 4GB?)
>

Hi David,
that's interesting about XP accessing HPFs <4Gb.  Is that with the 
system "as installed"? Or does it involve any manipulation like the 
W2KHPFS fix?

-- 
Regards,
Mike

Failed the exam for
--------------------
MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert
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[Please use zipped versions of above]

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:18:31 +1000
From:  "David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  XP and HPFS visibility [was hp 5p]

No, you are right,  XP doesn't support HPFS out of the box - neither did W2k or NT4.  I used the W2kfix 
package which I think is on Hobbes somewhere - it uses a patched Pinball.sys.

I haven't had any troubles using HPFS under WinXP (SP1).

David

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:57:14 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote:

>David Shearer wrote:
>
>>WinXP for me is the most stable Windows (I never tried W2K) and is the only version I would run.  
Surprisingly you can still access HPFS partitions - so long as they are relatively small eg less than 4GB?)
>>
>
>Hi David,
>that's interesting about XP accessing HPFs <4Gb.  Is that with the 
>system "as installed"? Or does it involve any manipulation like the 
>W2KHPFS fix?
>
>-- 
>Regards,
>Mike
>
>Failed the exam for
>--------------------
>MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert
>--------------------
>[ISP blocks *.exe attachments]
>[Please use zipped versions of above]
>
>

> 

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:49:53 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  XP and HPFS visibility [was hp 5p]

David Shearer wrote:

>No, you are right,  XP doesn't support HPFS out of the box - neither did W2k or NT4.  I used the W2kfix package which I think is on Hobbes somewhere - it uses a patched Pinball.sys.
>
>I haven't had any troubles using HPFS under WinXP (SP1).
>
>David
>
>On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:57:14 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote:
>
>>David Shearer wrote:
>>
>>>WinXP for me is the most stable Windows (I never tried W2K) and is the only version I would run.  
>>>      
>>>
>Surprisingly you can still access HPFS partitions - so long as they are relatively small eg less than 4GB?)
>  
>
>>Hi David,
>>that's interesting about XP accessing HPFs <4Gb.  Is that with the 
>>system "as installed"? Or does it involve any manipulation like the 
>>W2KHPFS fix?
>>
Hi David,

That's what I imagined  :-)

-- 
Regards,
Mike

Failed the exam for
--------------------
MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert
--------------------
[ISP blocks *.exe attachments]
[Please use zipped versions of above]

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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:29:39 +1100
From:  "David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Compaq laptop on sale at Office Works

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 13:43:00 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>
>  I also agree on the need to upgrade memory to 512MB or more, harddisk, I could probably live with 20GB. Adding memory could be a swine if,
>as often is the case, all memory slots are already populated and you have to remove the existing memory and replace it (eg 2 x 128MB) rather
>than simply adding an extra DIMM.

I've noticed this, and, I've seen that a few companies that sell over
the web have an extra option in the memory configuration that uses a
single DIMM instead of two, and then charge extra for the privilege.  I
know DELL and an interesting no-name (ITC from
<http://www.p4laptops dot com dot au>) do this.  

>
>  I found the driver download listings (for XP or W2K) as you did and I also found what appears to be a user handbook in PDF form.  What I'd
>like is the engineers handbook. These are available on the IBM site for Thinkpads however as you say, the HP-Compaq site leaves a lot to be
>desired ! I have yet to checkout the connexant site although I'm less worried about drivers for the modem as drivers for the NIC.

I have to admit that I didn't even think about the modem, I just
assumed it wouldn't work.  But, there appears to be a driver for the
NIC on the NICPAK site.

>
>  The laptop comes with XP Home. If as you say you need XP Pro for work, then perhaps work should pay for it ? There are warnings in the
>user manual however against installing the retail versions of XP as memory and USB errors are likely to occur if the Compaq modified
>versions aren't used.

It would be nice if they did pay for it.  But, if I replace my current
laptop, it would be a personal machine that I use to give myself some
flexibility - working on the train, or from home so that I don't have
to be in on a weekend - guess where I am now :(  I've been thinking
that I need XPPro to run VisualStudio, but, I've just looked and see
that it isn't really needed.  So the main reason is probably security. 
I was trying to backup some files from my wifes laptop which runs
XPHome, and I was horrified by how little choice there was in giving
access.  It was basically all-or-nothing.  I'm used to the finer
control that OS/2 and Win2000 (on my laptop), and XPPro (on my work
machine) give, and, as I'd be plugging it into our work network, I want
that.

Speaking of work networks, I'm required to rung a firewall on my laptop
so that I can plug it in.  This is to protect the network from my
"uncontrolled" machine.  Problem is, the only times I've been worried
about getting any sort of virus, has been from the machines on their
"secure" network.  I'd hate to think how much time we've lost  because
of this.

>
> By the date on the user manual, it seems the model was a current model up until at least the middle of 2003, so it's not that old.

Yes, I assume it's some sort  of "run out" sale.

--
David Forrester
davidfor at internode.on dot net
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:39:56 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2

Upgrade to  v 5.05 of the full RSJ product (ie not a demo version) to get DVD support. Speed of burning can
depend on several factors, the simple ones are processor speed. If you're using a 200MHz pentium it's going
to run like a dog, If you're using a 2GHz or greater machine things are going to be a different world. The
newer machines also come with far faster EIDE controllers and this is also an advantage as long as everything
in the EIDE channel can run at the faster speeds.

Make sure you have the latest IBM or DANI drivers installed.

To create DVD-R disks you'll need RSJ or if you are very lucky and your drive is supported by it, the
freeware cdrecord-prodvd/2 v 2.0 port may work.

To create DVD-RW, again RSJ will do this, but also if you installed the latest OS2CDROM.DMD (from the latest
IBM IDE update) and UDF v 2.1.2, you can format and write to DVD-RW disks as if they are simply a very large
floppy disk. This version of UDF is the international standard one and is compatible with Windows XP's UDF
(RSJs may not be).

Cheers/2

Ed.

David Shearer wrote:

> I have a MATSHITA DVD Burner - 2 speed,  -R, -RW format.  What are my burning options under OS/2?.  I
> am obviously interested in doing backups.  Todate I have backed up stuff under WinXP (I have access to my
> HPFS partitions under WinXP) but have not yet tried to burn a DVD under OS/2 yet.  I have RSJ 5.02.
>
> I understand RSJ can do DVD burning - any experience with it?  Is UDF a problem?  I found using with with
> CDRW's was quite slow.
>
> Regards
>
> David
>
> (PS I have turned my spell check back on in PMMail - sorry for the poor spelling before).
>
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:27:53 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
>
> >Hi Daryl,
> >
> >  I have to say that so far my results are quite  different. I realise you have
> >probably done far more testing than I have, however I find DVD-RW writing to mt
> >Pioneer DVR-105 to be quite acceptable speed and I haven't had the "coaster problem"
> >that you refer to. Can you confirm that you have these problems on both DVD-RW AND
> >DVD+RW, I suspect you will find DVD+RW on your drive is OK (Mine can only do DVD-RW,
> >Daryl's drive is a multiformat DVD-106 drive).
> >
> >Cheers/2
> >
> >Ed.
> >
> >Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >> UDF packet writing is a Dog on any OS.
> >> Even Windoze users don't recommend using it.
> >>
> >> I've been fiddling around with it on W2k using inCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2
> >> using the IBM UDF drivers 2.1.2.
> >>
> >> It is buggy & unreliable. Sometimes it works, other times you simply end
> >> up with an unusable CD-RW or DVD-RW that can't even be blanked using
> >> cdrecord/2.
> >>
> >> Blanking usually allows it to be used by RSJ 5.05 as a conventional
> >> CD-XA multi-session CD.
> >>
> >> Multi-session CD-XA is the way to go if you want something to work, & I
> >> do:- I want to use them for server backups.
> >>
> >> Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi All,
> >> > Will OS/2 read DVD-RW that are made with InCD 4.0.1.27 file system?
> >> > What file systems can OS/2 read/write from DVD-RW?
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >>  
> >
> >

> > 

>

>  

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:43:05 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  HPFS access (was hp 5p)

Hi David,

  Are you saying that Windows XP can access HPFS partitions without modification or have you installed the
PINBALL.DLL and patched the registry as we used to have to do on Win NT4 and 2000 ??

Cheers/2

Ed.

David Shearer wrote:

> Linux is much the same (but a lot harder to learn) - I gave it a try a couple of times and went back to OS/2.
> WinXP for me is the most stable Windows (I never tried W2K) and is the only version I would run.  Surprisingly you
> can still access HPFS partitions - so long as they are relatively small eg less than 4GB?)
>
> David

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:57:01 +1100
From:  Daryl Pilkington <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re:  HPFS access (was hp 5p)

There are patched files available, I know 2 people who have reported 
accessing HPFS from W2k, it is stable & ready for prime-time.

This means a dual-boot system can use HPFS for the shared filesystem 
instead of CRAP, oops FAT ;)

Don't know about WinXP with the files though.

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
>   Are you saying that Windows XP can access HPFS partitions without modification or have you installed the
> PINBALL.DLL and patched the registry as we used to have to do on Win NT4 and 2000 ??
>

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:03:53 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2

Ed Durrant wrote:

>Upgrade to  v 5.05 of the full RSJ product (ie not a demo version) to get DVD support. Speed of burning can depend on several factors, the simple ones are processor speed. If you're using a 200MHz pentium it's going
>to run like a dog, If you're using a 2GHz or greater machine things are going to be a different world. The newer machines also come with far faster EIDE controllers and this is also an advantage as long as everything
>in the EIDE channel can run at the faster speeds.
>
>Make sure you have the latest IBM or DANI drivers installed.
>
>To create DVD-R disks you'll need RSJ or if you are very lucky and your drive is supported by it, the freeware cdrecord-prodvd/2 v 2.0 port may work.
>
>To create DVD-RW, again RSJ will do this, but also if you installed the latest OS2CDROM.DMD (from the latest IBM IDE update) and UDF v 2.1.2, you can format and write to DVD-RW disks as if they are simply a very large
>floppy disk. This version of UDF is the international standard one and is compatible with Windows XP's UDF (RSJs may not be).
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>David Shearer wrote:
>
>>I have a MATSHITA DVD Burner - 2 speed,  -R, -RW format.  What are my burning options under OS/2?.  I am obviously interested in doing backups.  Todate I have backed up stuff under WinXP (I have access to my
>>HPFS partitions under WinXP) but have not yet tried to burn a DVD under OS/2 yet.  I have RSJ 5.02.
>>
>>I understand RSJ can do DVD burning - any experience with it?  Is UDF a problem?  I found using with with CDRW's was quite slow.
>>    
>>

Hi Ed,  David,

I already knew that there was a special offer on RSJ for eCS 1.1 owners, 
but when I was picking up the 5.05 .pdf on the RSJ site I noticed that 
the upgrade price for owners of RSJ V 2-4 [or was it V3|4?] was only 
half of what the eCS offer was.

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:10:26 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  HPFS access (was hp 5p)

Hi Daryl,

  My question, passed several replies. Apparently the old Pinball.dll patch still works with XP and someone has
even created a patching program that is up on Hobbes.

 Cheers/2

  Ed.

Daryl Pilkington wrote:

> There are patched files available, I know 2 people who have reported
> accessing HPFS from W2k, it is stable & ready for prime-time.
>
> This means a dual-boot system can use HPFS for the shared filesystem
> instead of CRAP, oops FAT ;)
>
> Don't know about WinXP with the files though.
>
> Ed Durrant wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> >   Are you saying that Windows XP can access HPFS partitions without modification or have you installed the
> > PINBALL.DLL and patched the registry as we used to have to do on Win NT4 and 2000 ??
> >
>

>  

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:12:55 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2

The offer for eCS 1.1 purchasers was for a full version of RSJ 5.x not an upgrade from a previously purchased version of RSJ, so I'd expect this to cost more. It worked out at about 50% of the normal retail price.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Mike O'Connor wrote:

> Hi Ed,  David,
>
> I already knew that there was a special offer on RSJ for eCS 1.1 owners,
> but when I was picking up the 5.05 .pdf on the RSJ site I noticed that
> the upgrade price for owners of RSJ V 2-4 [or was it V3|4?] was only
> half of what the eCS offer was.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike

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**= Email   19 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:16:52 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  HPFS access (was hp 5p)

Ed Durrant wrote:

>Hi David,
>
>  Are you saying that Windows XP can access HPFS partitions without modification or have you installed the
>PINBALL.DLL and patched the registry as we used to have to do on Win NT4 and 2000 ??
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>David Shearer wrote:
>
>>Linux is much the same (but a lot harder to learn) - I gave it a try a couple of times and went back to OS/2.
>>WinXP for me is the most stable Windows (I never tried W2K) and is the only version I would run.  Surprisingly you
>>can still access HPFS partitions - so long as they are relatively small eg less than 4GB?)
>>

Hi Ed,

I asked that earlier and David responded here at 18:18 by your clock 
:-)       [I leave mine on EST all year].

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:24:35 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Compaq laptop on sale at Office Works

David Forrester wrote:

>I have to admit that I didn't even think about the modem, I just
>assumed it wouldn't work.  But, there appears to be a driver for the
>NIC on the NICPAK site.
>

Hi David,

When I was having all the problems with my [pre-ISDN+booster] PSTN line 
- I had a lot of correspondence with the Telstra tech Managers and they 
sent me at the time quite a lot of stuff about Conexant  [who 'took 
over' the modem chip *manufacturing* from Rockwell]. As far as Telstra 
were concerned, Conexant was *the* standard, so you shouldn't have 
problems with hardware modems as they included DSPs.

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:32:22 +1000
From:  "David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2

Thanks for the info.  RSJ 5.05 only has minor fixes over 5.02 to do with the cd database aspect -  if i recall.

If I use UDF - ie formatting the DVD RW and accessing it as a "Hard Drive" will this support EAs?   If not then 
maybe I am best using a backup program or zipping or RARing the files before backing them up.

David

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:39:56 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Upgrade to  v 5.05 of the full RSJ product (ie not a demo version) to get DVD support. Speed of burning can
>depend on several factors, the simple ones are processor speed. If you're using a 200MHz pentium it's going
>to run like a dog, If you're using a 2GHz or greater machine things are going to be a different world. The
>newer machines also come with far faster EIDE controllers and this is also an advantage as long as 
everything
>in the EIDE channel can run at the faster speeds.
>
>Make sure you have the latest IBM or DANI drivers installed.
>
>To create DVD-R disks you'll need RSJ or if you are very lucky and your drive is supported by it, the
>freeware cdrecord-prodvd/2 v 2.0 port may work.
>
>To create DVD-RW, again RSJ will do this, but also if you installed the latest OS2CDROM.DMD (from the 
latest
>IBM IDE update) and UDF v 2.1.2, you can format and write to DVD-RW disks as if they are simply a very 
large
>floppy disk. This version of UDF is the international standard one and is compatible with Windows XP's UDF
>(RSJs may not be).
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>David Shearer wrote:
>
>> I have a MATSHITA DVD Burner - 2 speed,  -R, -RW format.  What are my burning options under OS/2?.  
I
>> am obviously interested in doing backups.  Todate I have backed up stuff under WinXP (I have access to 
my
>> HPFS partitions under WinXP) but have not yet tried to burn a DVD under OS/2 yet.  I have RSJ 5.02.
>>
>> I understand RSJ can do DVD burning - any experience with it?  Is UDF a problem?  I found using with 
with
>> CDRW's was quite slow.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> David
>>
>> (PS I have turned my spell check back on in PMMail - sorry for the poor spelling before).
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:27:53 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
>>
>> >Hi Daryl,
>> >
>> >  I have to say that so far my results are quite  different. I realise you have
>> >probably done far more testing than I have, however I find DVD-RW writing to mt
>> >Pioneer DVR-105 to be quite acceptable speed and I haven't had the "coaster problem"
>> >that you refer to. Can you confirm that you have these problems on both DVD-RW AND
>> >DVD+RW, I suspect you will find DVD+RW on your drive is OK (Mine can only do DVD-RW,
>> >Daryl's drive is a multiformat DVD-106 drive).
>> >
>> >Cheers/2
>> >
>> >Ed.
>> >
>> >Daryl Pilkington wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi All,
>> >> UDF packet writing is a Dog on any OS.
>> >> Even Windoze users don't recommend using it.
>> >>
>> >> I've been fiddling around with it on W2k using inCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2
>> >> using the IBM UDF drivers 2.1.2.
>> >>
>> >> It is buggy & unreliable. Sometimes it works, other times you simply end
>> >> up with an unusable CD-RW or DVD-RW that can't even be blanked using
>> >> cdrecord/2.
>> >>
>> >> Blanking usually allows it to be used by RSJ 5.05 as a conventional
>> >> CD-XA multi-session CD.
>> >>
>> >> Multi-session CD-XA is the way to go if you want something to work, & I
>> >> do:- I want to use them for server backups.
>> >>
>> >> Daryl Pilkington wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi All,
>> >> > Will OS/2 read DVD-RW that are made with InCD 4.0.1.27 file system?
>> >> > What file systems can OS/2 read/write from DVD-RW?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>  
>> >
>> >
>
>> > 
>
>>
>
>>  
>
>

> 

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:33:46 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  HPFS access (was hp 5p)

Ed Durrant wrote:

>Hi Daryl,
>
>  My question, passed several replies. Apparently the old Pinball.dll patch still works with XP and someone has even created a patching program that is up on Hobbes.
>
> Cheers/2
>
>  Ed.
>
>Daryl Pilkington wrote:
>
>>There are patched files available, I know 2 people who have reported
>>accessing HPFS from W2k, it is stable & ready for prime-time.
>>
>>This means a dual-boot system can use HPFS for the shared filesystem
>>instead of CRAP, oops FAT ;)
>>
>>Don't know about WinXP with the files though.
>>
>>Ed Durrant wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Hi David,
>>>
>>>  Are you saying that Windows XP can access HPFS partitions without modification or have you installed the
>>>PINBALL.DLL and patched the registry as we used to have to do on Win NT4 and 2000 ??
>>>      
>>>

Hi Ed,

That's the relatively recent "pinball.sys" type solution that was 
generated explicitly for W2K, no resemblance to the NT4 edition.
I know Nelson .... Santiago in Brasil has been using it forever, with 
excellent success. he put me onto it, about 12-18 months ago.

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:48:25 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2

It's writes an "EA DATA. SF" file to the DVD so I'd say it supports EAs (obviously only when read under OS/2 of
course).

Cheers/2

Ed.

David Shearer wrote:

> Thanks for the info.  RSJ 5.05 only has minor fixes over 5.02 to do with the cd database aspect -  if i recall.
>
> If I use UDF - ie formatting the DVD RW and accessing it as a "Hard Drive" will this support EAs?   If not then
> maybe I am best using a backup program or zipping or RARing the files before backing them up.
>
> David
>
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:39:56 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
>
> >Upgrade to  v 5.05 of the full RSJ product (ie not a demo version) to get DVD support. Speed of burning can
> >depend on several factors, the simple ones are processor speed. If you're using a 200MHz pentium it's going
> >to run like a dog, If you're using a 2GHz or greater machine things are going to be a different world. The
> >newer machines also come with far faster EIDE controllers and this is also an advantage as long as
> everything
> >in the EIDE channel can run at the faster speeds.
> >
> >Make sure you have the latest IBM or DANI drivers installed.
> >
> >To create DVD-R disks you'll need RSJ or if you are very lucky and your drive is supported by it, the
> >freeware cdrecord-prodvd/2 v 2.0 port may work.
> >
> >To create DVD-RW, again RSJ will do this, but also if you installed the latest OS2CDROM.DMD (from the
> latest
> >IBM IDE update) and UDF v 2.1.2, you can format and write to DVD-RW disks as if they are simply a very
> large
> >floppy disk. This version of UDF is the international standard one and is compatible with Windows XP's UDF
> >(RSJs may not be).
> >
> >Cheers/2
> >
> >Ed.
> >
> >David Shearer wrote:
> >
> >> I have a MATSHITA DVD Burner - 2 speed,  -R, -RW format.  What are my burning options under OS/2?.
> I
> >> am obviously interested in doing backups.  Todate I have backed up stuff under WinXP (I have access to
> my
> >> HPFS partitions under WinXP) but have not yet tried to burn a DVD under OS/2 yet.  I have RSJ 5.02.
> >>
> >> I understand RSJ can do DVD burning - any experience with it?  Is UDF a problem?  I found using with
> with
> >> CDRW's was quite slow.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> (PS I have turned my spell check back on in PMMail - sorry for the poor spelling before).
> >>
> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:27:53 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi Daryl,
> >> >
> >> >  I have to say that so far my results are quite  different. I realise you have
> >> >probably done far more testing than I have, however I find DVD-RW writing to mt
> >> >Pioneer DVR-105 to be quite acceptable speed and I haven't had the "coaster problem"
> >> >that you refer to. Can you confirm that you have these problems on both DVD-RW AND
> >> >DVD+RW, I suspect you will find DVD+RW on your drive is OK (Mine can only do DVD-RW,
> >> >Daryl's drive is a multiformat DVD-106 drive).
> >> >
> >> >Cheers/2
> >> >
> >> >Ed.
> >> >
> >> >Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi All,
> >> >> UDF packet writing is a Dog on any OS.
> >> >> Even Windoze users don't recommend using it.
> >> >>
> >> >> I've been fiddling around with it on W2k using inCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2
> >> >> using the IBM UDF drivers 2.1.2.
> >> >>
> >> >> It is buggy & unreliable. Sometimes it works, other times you simply end
> >> >> up with an unusable CD-RW or DVD-RW that can't even be blanked using
> >> >> cdrecord/2.
> >> >>
> >> >> Blanking usually allows it to be used by RSJ 5.05 as a conventional
> >> >> CD-XA multi-session CD.
> >> >>
> >> >> Multi-session CD-XA is the way to go if you want something to work, & I
> >> >> do:- I want to use them for server backups.
> >> >>
> >> >> Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hi All,
> >> >> > Will OS/2 read DVD-RW that are made with InCD 4.0.1.27 file system?
> >> >> > What file systems can OS/2 read/write from DVD-RW?
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >>  
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > 
> >
> >>
> >
> >>  
> >
> >

> > 

>

>  

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:03:23 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  DVD-RW with InCD 4.0.1.27 & OS/2

David Shearer wrote:

>Thanks for the info.  RSJ 5.05 only has minor fixes over 5.02 to do with the cd database aspect -  if i recall.
>
>If I use UDF - ie formatting the DVD RW and accessing it as a "Hard Drive" will this support EAs?   If not then maybe I am best using a backup program or zipping or RARing the files before backing them up.
>
>David
>
<SNIPPED>

Hi David,

Although I don't have a DVD-* to write to, I use the CD-RW as a 
Hard-drive with RSJ, always have been able to.  That's one of the 
reasons RSJ is superior to the UDF-packet writing, where on a CD-RW you 
lost nothing of the capacity under RSJ, but under UDF-packet writing in 
Windows for example you lost 150-170MB out of a 650MB CD, just because 
of the random writing access, and its long-time to pre-format the media 
- same in RSJ only took seconds.  Zip to the CD/DVD is the ideal way to 
cope with EAs and wilol be quicker than writing uncompressed UDF, ACLs 
also are saved if in place and can be selectively restored. Although  I 
know from what Ian Manners has said that RAR can handle at least up to 
11GB, in his case, ZIP is limited to 2GB, but heck you can have multiple 
ones.  I haven't used RAR so don't know whether that supports ACLs, but 
it does for EAs.

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:16:31 +1030
From:  Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  eCS Woes

Hi All,

Thanks for the responses. Sorry about the delay in replying. Have been 
away aviating - well sort of, with rotten weather, rotten airspace 
limitations and so on - but added two new types to my logbook.

Ed Durrant wrote:

>Well Leigh, your experiences with eCS 1.1 are not normal.
>
That would have to be right!!

>"Are all Bios levels at the current level ?" - This includes motherboard, adapter cards and even harddisks. It will depend upon the make of your PC as to where you get all of these latest BIOS firmware updates from. If you built the system yourself, then you're going to have some hunting to do.
>
System is an Abit BX6/2 M/B; P3 -500 CPU running at 645; Matrox 
Millenium II PCI video card; ISA S/B 16; ISA 56K Int modem; Accton PCI 
network card; Samsung 8Mb HDD.

M/B BIOS was the latest. Would have to research the rest.

>"When was the last time that you scanned your PC for Viruses?". A virus in the boot sector or elsewhere could be causing some of these issues.
>
To be honest, haven't got any virus software. As I have hardly used eCS 
since installing it months ago, I would have expected any virus to 
affect the Warp partition as well.

>"When was the last time you ran full systems diagnostics on the hardware ?" - I suspect you may have faulty memory DIMMs.
>
Haven't but Warp works fine.

>"Have you checked for DMA (especially floppy) or IRQ conflicts" ?
>
Yes - appears OK.

>"What hardware settings did you set at the start of the eCS 1.1 install?"
>
Normal stuff plus USB - but as I don't have any USB  peripherals, it 
probably isn't needed. How do I give it the flick?

>And before you say you have OS/2 Warp4 working flawlessly on another partition on the same disk in the same machine, try wiping and re-installing that and you may well see the same or similar problems. Files can get corrupted at install time and cause problems later.
>
Sorry. Haven't got time for all that.

>As you have bought a fully licensed copy of eCS 1.1, you have access to both the support forums and to the supplier for assistance. If the suggestions above don't highlight the problem, why not give Mark a call ?
>  
>
Thought I would try some local help first.

-- 
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Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
<Open Windows and let the bugs in>

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:27:16 +1030
From:  Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  eCS Woes

John Angelico wrote:

>1. Have you used the quixotic Maintenance Tool to update the system? 
>
Cè?

>2. Can you list your hardware configuration?
>
System is an Abit BX6/2 M/B; P3 -500 CPU running at 645; Matrox 
Millenium II PCI video card; ISA S/B 16; ISA 56K Int modem; Accton PCI 
network card; Samsung 8Mb HDD.

>3. Did you let the install find any USB and install drivers?
>Chances are if you did then the stupid USB drivers will have pinched some
>interrupts 
>
Yes. And as per response to Ed, how do I get rid of it?

>4. Which IDE drivers have been installed: DANI or IBM original?
>
Dani's

> 5. Is the sound card wired up through a CD card or combo IDE card?

Nope

>6. Do you have the Netscape 4.61 "legacy browser" installed? This is
>essential for some tasks.
>
Yes

Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
<Open Windows and let the bugs in>

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:31:03 +1030
From:  Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  eCS Woes

David Forrester wrote:

>Unfortunately the attachment didn't come through.  But, the most common
>reason Mozilla doesn't start on an eCS system, and an OS/2 system for
>that matter, is that the IBM Browser has been installed.
>
Yep. Removed the IBM  Browser first. Mozilla then worked fine.

Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
<Open Windows and let the bugs in>

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Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:34:40 +1030
From:  Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  eCS Woes

Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote:

>Really eCS has quite a learning curve.  For people still using the older
>Warp4, it is particularly challenging as most Warp4 users do not
>regularly re-install all the time (Like Windows Users).
>
Been some years.

>Hence your os2 problem solving skills can get rusty over time.
>
Hit the nail on the head there.

>Could you send me off list, your eCS and Warp4 Config.sys and a 
>complete list of your hardware.?  Also a list of the options you chose
>during the install and a list of programs you have installed afterwards.
>  
>
When I get a chance I'll try those suggestions and  email you direct. 
Thanks Bob.

Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
<Open Windows and let the bugs in>

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**= Email   29 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:16:26 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS Woes

Leigh Bunting wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Thanks for the responses. Sorry about the delay in replying. Have been 
> away aviating - well sort of, with rotten weather, rotten airspace 
> limitations and so on - but added two new types to my logbook.

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> Normal stuff plus USB - but as I don't have any USB  peripherals, it 
> probably isn't needed. How do I give it the flick?

Hi Leigh,
In your config.sys just REM out the lines with reference to USB - like 
those including EHCI/OHCI/UHCI - they should all be together near the 
end usually.
Good luck.  Also disable any USB options in the BIOS. May also be under 
PCI settings too.

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Regards,
Mike

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