Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 771
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 00:01:02 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Wednesday 07 January 2004
 Number  771
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Networking os/2 with win2k : Glenn Montgomery <glenn at montysplace dot net>
2  Re:  Networking os/2 with win2k : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS : Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
4  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
5  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS : Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
6  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
7  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS : Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
8  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
9  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
10  Re:  Printer recommendation : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
11  Re:  Printer recommendation : Daryl Pilkington <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
12  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>

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Date:  Mon, 05 Jan 2004 07:27:19 +1000
From:  Glenn Montgomery <glenn at montysplace dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Networking os/2 with win2k

Hi Ed,

I have gone through that checklist and all seems OK with that so I have 
attached those files you asked for.

Many thanks for this
Glenn Montgomery

[attachments have been removed]
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Date:  Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:24:05 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Networking os/2 with win2k

Hi Glen - You need to cut and paste the files into the message text. File attachments
get removed by the listserve.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Glenn Montgomery wrote:

> Hi Ed,
>
> I have gone through that checklist and all seems OK with that so I have
> attached those files you asked for.
>
> Many thanks for this
> Glenn Montgomery
>
> [attachments have been removed]

>  

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Date:  Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:44:47 +1100
From:  Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
Subject:  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS

Paul

Just downloaded and installed. I did find a problem in the installation 
in that the pathname for the properties contained a %20 for a space. 
Once I changed the %20 to a space I could use the WPS object to run 
OpenOffice.

Haven't had much of a chance to play yet, so cannot comment on its 
functionality. The only comments I have are that it is quite slow 
(expected for a beta version) and it appears to be chunky in the screen 
presentation.

regards
Ken
Paul Smedley wrote:

> For those that haven't seen this yet, OpenOffice v1.1 Beta 1 is now 
> available for OS/2 & eCS from 
> http://www.innotek.de/products/openofficeos2/beta/
>
> From that page:
> A joint effort between Serenity Systems and InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH
>
> OpenOffice for OS/2 is a port of the well known product to the 
> eComStation and OS/2 Warp platforms with special support for InnoTek's 
> font engine for OS/2.
>
> To try out the beta, you have to download and install three products:
>
>     * InnoTek Font Engine for OS/2 Version 2.10 Preview 2
>     * InnoTek Runtime for OS/2 Preview 1
>     * OpenOffice 1.1 for OS/2 Beta 1
>
> Please download and install the order given above. Refer to the 
> documentation of each component for installation instructions and 
> additional information.
>
> OpenOffice 1.1 for OS/2 Readme.
>
> For support and more information, please refer to the InnoTek Online 
> Support Forums.
 
>
> 

>
>

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Date:  Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:03:38 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS

Ken Laurie schreef:

> Paul
>
> Just downloaded and installed. I did find a problem in the 
> installation in that the pathname for the properties contained a %20 
> for a space. Once I changed the %20 to a space I could use the WPS 
> object to run OpenOffice.
>
> Haven't had much of a chance to play yet,

I've had not even a chanche to play:

C:\OOO>installos2.cmd
ERROR: could not determine installation directory! Installation not 
complete/cor
rupted?

Any takers? (Yes, the 2 supplemental packaged had/have been installed).

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:50:34 +1100
From:  Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
Subject:  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS

Kris

I already had the font engine installed. I downloaded the runtime and 
installed it and it generated the following directory structure.

Directory of F:\APPS\INNORT

 6/01/04 12:25          <DIR>      0 ----  .
 6/01/04 12:25          <DIR>      0 ----  ..
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  Application Data
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  Cookies
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  Desktop
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  Drivers
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  Favorites
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  Fonts
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  History
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  My Documents
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  NetHood
 6/01/04 19:03          <DIR>      0 ----  OpenOffice dot org 1.1.0
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  PrintHood
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>    463 ----  Program Files
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  Recent
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  SendTo
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  ShellNew
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  Start Menu
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  SYSTEM
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  Temp
 6/01/04 12:26          <DIR>      0 ----  Temporary Internet Files
 7/01/04 10:39              0      0 a---  dir.lst
23/12/03  9:41         47,640      0 a---  innoinst.exe
24/11/03 17:17         32,855      0 a---  innoinst.reg
23/12/03  9:41      2,409,119      0 a---  innowin.dll
22/12/03 17:04            823  1,182 a---  install.cmd
23/12/03  9:42         29,960      0 a---  iwquery.exe
 9/12/03 11:10          4,954      0 a---  license.txt
23/12/03  9:40          2,231      0 a---  Readme.txt
 6/01/04 12:26             29      0 a---  SYSTEM.INI
23/12/03  9:41         33,082      0 a---  tzconfig.exe
 6/01/04 18:55        105,232      0 a---  uinst001.exe
 6/01/04 12:26             40      0 a---  WIN.INI
       33 file(s)   2,665,965 bytes used
                    5,746,427 K bytes free

The OpenOffice dot org 1.1.0 was created after I installed OpenOffice.
When I work out how to uninstall it I will try again to see if I did 
anything specific. OpenOffice did get installed in the "Program Files" 
directory in the above structure, in a directory named OpenOffice11.

regards
Ken

Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
> Ken Laurie schreef:
>
>> Paul
>>
>> Just downloaded and installed. I did find a problem in the 
>> installation in that the pathname for the properties contained a %20 
>> for a space. Once I changed the %20 to a space I could use the WPS 
>> object to run OpenOffice.
>>
>> Haven't had much of a chance to play yet,
>
>
> I've had not even a chanche to play:
>
> C:\OOO>installos2.cmd
> ERROR: could not determine installation directory! Installation not 
> complete/cor
> rupted?
>
> Any takers? (Yes, the 2 supplemental packaged had/have been installed).
>
>

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Date:  Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:03:33 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:50:34 +1100, Ken Laurie wrote:

>Kris
>
>I already had the font engine installed. I downloaded the runtime and 
>installed it and it generated the following directory structure.
>
>Directory of F:\APPS\INNORT

Looks very like a Win structure, doesn't it?

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
___________________

PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
.... Windows 95 is plug 'n play. OS/2 Warp is install and work!
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Date:  Wed, 07 Jan 2004 12:34:57 +1100
From:  Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
Subject:  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS

John

Certainly does. You might be interested in this from the readme.txt

System Requirements:

- Microsoft Windows 98, ME, NT (Service Pack 6 or higher), 2000 or XP
- Pentium compatible PC
- 64 MB RAM
- 250 MB (CJK version: 300 MB) available hard disk space
- 800x600 resolution or higher, at least 256 colors

Innotek are doing the same for OpenOffice as they have done for Java. 
They are using Odin to create the environment on OS/2 to run the 
product. The runtime structure has been setup so that they can use the 
same basic code to create the environment for all the apps they are 
using under Odin.

regards
Ken
John Angelico wrote:

>On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:50:34 +1100, Ken Laurie wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Kris
>>
>>I already had the font engine installed. I downloaded the runtime and 
>>installed it and it generated the following directory structure.
>>
>>Directory of F:\APPS\INNORT
>>    
>>
>
>Looks very like a Win structure, doesn't it?
>
>
>Best regards
>John Angelico
>OS/2 SIG
>os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
>talldad at kepl dot com dot au
>___________________
>
>PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
>... Windows 95 is plug 'n play. OS/2 Warp is install and work!

> 

>
>
>  
>

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Date:  Wed, 07 Jan 2004 02:43:45 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS

Ken Laurie schreef:

> Kris
>
> I already had the font engine installed. I downloaded the runtime and 
> installed it and it generated the following directory structure.
>
> Directory of F:\APPS\INNORT
>
> 6/01/04 12:25          <DIR>      0 ----  .
> 6/01/04 12:26             40      0 a---  WIN.INI
>       33 file(s)   2,665,965 bytes used
>                    5,746,427 K bytes free
>
I have these to, but not in an \APPS\INNORT directory ...

> The OpenOffice dot org 1.1.0 was created after I installed OpenOffice.
> When I work out how to uninstall it I will try again to see if I did 
> anything specific. OpenOffice did get installed in the "Program Files" 
> directory in the above structure, in a directory named OpenOffice11.
>
>

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Wed, 07 Jan 2004 12:59:16 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 02:43:45 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

Hi fellas.

Has anyone tried to install across a Peer network?

I would like to install OO onto our server where there's  more space. 

Also I will want the data files on the server, but I am guessing that a
"port" from Win will want to tell *me* where it keeps its files rather than
allow me to *tell it* 

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
________________________

>Ken Laurie schreef:
>
>> Kris
>>
>> I already had the font engine installed. I downloaded the runtime and 
>> installed it and it generated the following directory structure.
>>
>> Directory of F:\APPS\INNORT
>>
>> 6/01/04 12:25          <DIR>      0 ----  .
>> 6/01/04 12:26             40      0 a---  WIN.INI
>>       33 file(s)   2,665,965 bytes used
>>                    5,746,427 K bytes free
>>
>I have these to, but not in an \APPS\INNORT directory ...
>
>> The OpenOffice dot org 1.1.0 was created after I installed OpenOffice.
>> When I work out how to uninstall it I will try again to see if I did 
>> anything specific. OpenOffice did get installed in the "Program Files" 
>> directory in the above structure, in a directory named OpenOffice11.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>-- 
>Groeten uit Gent,
>
>   Kris
>

> 

>
>

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Date:  Wed, 07 Jan 2004 13:12:37 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Printer recommendation

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:57:42 +1000, David Shearer wrote:

>
>PS Sor far I am impressed with this printer - compared to the likes of Canon BJ4000's and BJ 1000's and 
>2000s that I have owned in the past (admittedly entry level I know).  Print quality on photo paper is excellent.  
>It is amzing you can still buy it for $140 at Myers but at Tandy it is still on sale for $98.

Well, folks, I finally took the plunge and went with David's
recommendation.

Install went smoothly, drivers were fine (EP5US.ZIP was the relevant one),
although we fiddled around a bit and accidentally have the drivers
installed on three machines:
a) server where the printer is local
b) two machines which use it across Netbeui peer.

Caution for anyone on eCS 1.1x without the latest "install local printer"
wizard  - the original wizard is not a wiz at anything so we recommend not
using it. Instead just open up the EPOMNI.DRV in icon view and drag out the
relevant printer model object. This starts the same install process as the
wizard handles anyway. Drop it into your Printer Objects folder and away
you go.

MEMO SSI: please forget about wizards (a very personal view).

But we cleaned up the installs on the other two machines and they see the
network printer which is shared by the server.

Works fine. Even DeScribe can print in colour - in graphics frames only,
though, not in text frames.

Imported graphics in DeScribe look pretty good even on plain paper, and we
will shortly try some photo-grade examples.

Many thanks Daryl for the cautions about colour management - it helped us
avoid shock at the difference between DeScribe graphics on screen and the
deeper colours on paper.

We have PMView Pro which can handle adjustments for us, so I think we will
be OK.

Points taken about switching printer on and off, so we plan to have it stay
on for a whole week at a time.

Thanks again everyone who contributed.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
___________________

PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
.... Definitions #751: Printout: A document to verify data you know is wrong anyway.
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Date:  Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:13:03 +1100
From:  Daryl Pilkington <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re:  Printer recommendation

Hi John,
So you bought the C61?
Let the ListServ know how you're going using PMView Pro for photo printing.

Glad you didn't waste anytime figuring out why Describe wouldn't print 
colours accurately.

I'd be inclined to switch the printer off daily rather than weekly.
As I mentioned, if you leave the printer on without printing, it will do 
a cleaning cycle every so often.
Let us know what the cleaning period is, I'd be interested to know.
Makes the judgment on daily or weekly turn-off a lot mor objective.

John Angelico wrote:
SNIP
> 
> Well, folks, I finally took the plunge and went with David's
> recommendation.
> 
> Install went smoothly, drivers were fine (EP5US.ZIP was the relevant one),
> although we fiddled around a bit and accidentally have the drivers
> installed on three machines:
> a) server where the printer is local
> b) two machines which use it across Netbeui peer.
> 
> Caution for anyone on eCS 1.1x without the latest "install local printer"
> wizard  - the original wizard is not a wiz at anything so we recommend not
> using it. Instead just open up the EPOMNI.DRV in icon view and drag out the
> relevant printer model object. This starts the same install process as the
> wizard handles anyway. Drop it into your Printer Objects folder and away
> you go.
> 
> MEMO SSI: please forget about wizards (a very personal view).
> 
> But we cleaned up the installs on the other two machines and they see the
> network printer which is shared by the server.
> 
> Works fine. Even DeScribe can print in colour - in graphics frames only,
> though, not in text frames.
> 
> Imported graphics in DeScribe look pretty good even on plain paper, and we
> will shortly try some photo-grade examples.
> 
> Many thanks Daryl for the cautions about colour management - it helped us
> avoid shock at the difference between DeScribe graphics on screen and the
> deeper colours on paper.
> 
> We have PMView Pro which can handle adjustments for us, so I think we will
> be OK.
> 
> Points taken about switching printer on and off, so we plan to have it stay
> on for a whole week at a time.
> 
> Thanks again everyone who contributed.
> 
> 
> Best regards
> John Angelico
> OS/2 SIG
> os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
> talldad at kepl dot com dot au
> ___________________
> 
> PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
> ... Definitions #751: Printout: A document to verify data you know is wrong anyway.

>  

> 
> .
> 

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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 07 Jan 2004 19:46:05 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OpenOffice v1.1 for OS/2 & eCS

Hi Ken,
  Can I suggest you go to the Innotek site (www.innotek.de) and post the same message on
the support forum there, so that the guys at Innotek know and can fix ?

Cheers/2

Ed.

Ken Laurie wrote:

> Paul
>
> Just downloaded and installed. I did find a problem in the installation
> in that the pathname for the properties contained a %20 for a space.
> Once I changed the %20 to a space I could use the WPS object to run
> OpenOffice.
>
> Haven't had much of a chance to play yet, so cannot comment on its
> functionality. The only comments I have are that it is quite slow
> (expected for a beta version) and it appears to be chunky in the screen
> presentation.
>
> regards
> Ken
> Paul Smedley wrote:
>

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