Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 734
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:04:02 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Saturday 29 November 2003
 Number  734
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera : Michael Taylor <miket at pcug dot org dot au>
2  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera : voytek at sbt dot net dot au
3  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
4  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
5  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera : Michael Taylor <miket at pcug dot org dot au>
6  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera : Michael Taylor <miket at pcug dot org dot au>
7  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera : Michael Taylor <miket at pcug dot org dot au>
8  Re:  Printer Drivers HP Laserjet 6L Separator Page : Alan Heiser" <aheiser at ozemail dot com dot au>
9  Re:  WS4eB: network applications et-al : Daryl Pilkington <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
10  Re:  Printer Drivers HP Laserjet 6L Separator Page : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
11  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
12  Re:  WS4eB: network applications et-al : voytek at sbt dot net dot au

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Date:  Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:39:26 +0000
From:  Michael Taylor <miket at pcug dot org dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Yes I got one. I ended up paying $150 including courier delivery. Others may strike a better
> deal, this was my first attempt on eBAY - I was (and still am) looking for a Hauppage WinTV
> PVR 250 or 350 card and came across this camera.
> 
> Base, 2.1 MP, output 3 MP (or so it says).
> 
> 4 times digital zoom only - no optical zoom unfortunately.
> 
> 8MB built in memory plus it takes a SD or MMC type mempry expansion card - I think these exist
> up to 256MB now.

My Olympus C-120 (2MP, 8MB internal memory, 2.5X Digital zoom) works with the USB support on Os/2.

I attach the cammera to the USB port using the supplied cable and it appears as another drive 
letter. The current model is the C-150 and that one is available for $198- at BigW.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Date:  Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:51:43 +1100 (EST)
From:  voytek at sbt dot net dot au
Subject:  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera

Mick,

> My Olympus C-120 (2MP, 8MB internal memory, 2.5X Digital zoom) works with
> the USB support on Os/2.
>
> I attach the cammera to the USB port using the supplied cable and it
> appears as another drive
> letter. The current model is the C-150 and that one is available for $198-
> at BigW.

what USB support does it need installed ? what version of OS/2 ?

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Date:  Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:04:55 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera

Hi Voytek,

  When we get into the area of camera memory keys, there are so many different standards from
different manufacturers. It's go so bad now that to be safe, you can go and buy a six-in-one reader.

I have infact bought a Dick Smith memory disk with built in SD/MMC reader thinking that when I buy a
digital camera even if I can't connect to it directly via USB, I can at least take the memory card
out of it and put it in the key to transfer the pictures to my OS/2 system. As it turned out the
camera's USB connection to my OS/2 and eCS systems worked just fine !

SD (secure Digital) and MMC (multimedia memory card) are the older standard and use the same slot.
Memory stick is probably the newest standard and it promoted by Sony.

Many card readers are supported by OS/2 - the best place to check is http://www.os2world dot com/os2usb/

There are some freeware USB drivers there are some specifically modified drivers for particular
cameras for instance. These are all documented on the os2usb site. At the moment, the latest
(14/10/2003) IBM Software Choice USB drivers seem to give the widest comparability however not every
USB device is supported, so there is a risk, which is wht the os2usb site is so valuable. I have
documented the EMPREX camera and sent it to be listed to the site.

USB devices can be hot-added (there's a new monitor program with the latest IBM USB drivers),
however you need to right click and select "eject" to remove them. This is similar to Windoze
although the command has a different name.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Voytek Eymont wrote:

> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:00:27 +1100
>
>
> tell me, to read these little 'USB memeory sticks' on OS/2, do I just need
> the latest USB drivers ? can the memeory sticks be hot plugged ?
> can these SD/MMC card be plugged into OS/2 ?
>
> whilst on the USB: does any one knows if a Palm can be synced via USB ?
>
> Voytek Eymont

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Date:  Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:06:08 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera

Michael Taylor wrote:

>
> My Olympus C-120 (2MP, 8MB internal memory, 2.5X Digital zoom) works with the USB support on Os/2.
>
> I attach the cammera to the USB port using the supplied cable and it appears as another drive
> letter. The current model is the C-150 and that one is available for $198- at BigW.
>
>

Hi Mick,

  Have you sent details of your success to  http://www.os2world dot com/os2usb/  to be added to their
database ??

Cheers/2

Ed.

> --
> Regards,
> Mick
>
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Date:  Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:40:26 +0000
From:  Michael Taylor <miket at pcug dot org dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera

voytek at sbt dot net dot au wrote:
> Mick,
> 
> 
> 
>>My Olympus C-120 (2MP, 8MB internal memory, 2.5X Digital zoom) works with
>>the USB support on Os/2.
>>
>>I attach the cammera to the USB port using the supplied cable and it
>>appears as another drive
>>letter. The current model is the C-150 and that one is available for $198-
>>at BigW.
> 
> 
> what USB support does it need installed ? what version of OS/2 ?

I am using eCS 1.0 - I installed the USBMSD drivers.

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Regards,
Mick

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Date:  Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:42:52 +0000
From:  Michael Taylor <miket at pcug dot org dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera

Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> Michael Taylor wrote:
> 
> 
>>My Olympus C-120 (2MP, 8MB internal memory, 2.5X Digital zoom) works with the USB support on Os/2.
>>
>>I attach the cammera to the USB port using the supplied cable and it appears as another drive
>>letter. The current model is the C-150 and that one is available for $198- at BigW.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Hi Mick,
> 
>   Have you sent details of your success to  http://www.os2world dot com/os2usb/  to be added to their
> database ??

No, not yet. I only got it working last night. When I tried it first I lost all
network, NTFS  and JFS drives. Then I saw a post with the parameters on USBMSD.
I unremmed the USB drivers, added the paramters and it worked properly.

BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
BASEDEV=USBD.SYS /REQ:USBUHCD$,USBOHCD$,USBEHCD$
BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS
BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /FLOPPIES:0 /REMOVABLES:2

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Regards,
Mick

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Date:  Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:55:34 +0000
From:  Michael Taylor <miket at pcug dot org dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera

Ed Durrant wrote:
> There are some freeware USB drivers there are some specifically modified drivers for particular
> cameras for instance. These are all documented on the os2usb site. At the moment, the latest
> (14/10/2003) IBM Software Choice USB drivers seem to give the widest comparability however not every
> USB device is supported, so there is a risk, which is wht the os2usb site is so valuable. I have
> documented the EMPREX camera and sent it to be listed to the site.
> 
> USB devices can be hot-added (there's a new monitor program with the latest IBM USB drivers),
> however you need to right click and select "eject" to remove them. This is similar to Windoze
> although the command has a different name.

For those of you who use the command line the "eject" command also works!

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Date:  Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:34:11 +1000 (KST)
From:  "Alan Heiser" <aheiser at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Printer Drivers HP Laserjet 6L Separator Page

Thanks Ed.

Text file piped to printer worked fine, so...
Removed all laserjet drivers, downloaded latest from IBM Device Driver site and 
reloaded.  Driver Version is now 30.797 and seems to be working as expected.

Thank you for the assistance

Alan

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:15:03 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>OK,
>
>What happens if you copy a text file (eg CONFIG.SYS) to LPT1: ??
>
>If the "separator page" still comes out, it's something in the printer - pull out the manual 
and
>go through every setting on the printers menu panels.
>
>If it doesn't come out, delete and re-install the printer. By default separator pages are 
turned
>off when you install a new printer.
>
>I suspect that it's actually something on the printer.
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>Alan Heiser wrote:
>
>> Direct via LPT1
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:36:07 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
>>
>> >Printing direct to the printer via LPD or via a server ??
>> >
>> >Cheers/2
>> >
>> >Ed.
>> >
>> >Alan Heiser wrote:
>> >
>> >> For some reason my printer has decided to print a page outlining the print job
>> before
>> >> actually printing the job.  This appears to be a separator page as set in print 
options
>> of
>> >> the printer properties notebook.  But there is no separator file specified at that 
place.
>> In
>> >> fact, specifying a separator file means the specified file only is printed.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at a print job as a metafile does not show a separator file, so it is 
something
>> >> the printer is setting between spooling the job and actually printing it.
>> >>
>> >> Very annoying, and I can find no way of switching it off.
>> >>
>> >> Printer is HP Laserjet 6L and printer driver is LASERJET.HP Laserjet 6L and the
>> >> version is the one that came with the ECS 1.1 (Version 30.778).  OS is of course 
ECS
>> 1.1
>> >>
>> >> Any suggestions?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Alan
>> >>
>> >
>> >>  
>> >
>> >
>
>> > 
>
>>
>
>>  
>
>

> 

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Date:  Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:35:47 +1100
From:  Daryl Pilkington <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re:  WS4eB: network applications et-al

Hi Ed,
PMPDF will create PDFs, just use Copyshop, Imagescan/2 or Tame/2 to 
"print" to the  PDF printer. Exactly the same sort of process as faxing 
to PMfax.

Will email them & ask. I don't have the time to install & configure the 
software this weekend.

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Dont have Evermore EIO or Open Office dot org running on OS/2 yet so can't produce PDF
> files.
> 
> The use to support incoming/outgoing faxes to/from internal e-mails was mentioned at
> Warpstock, I thought it was part of the base system but you could be correct that it's
> an add-on.
> 
> Why not send them an e-mail and ask ?
> 
> Or simply try it out - it's on your CD
>
SNIP

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Date:  Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:18:24 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Printer Drivers HP Laserjet 6L Separator Page

No problems. It's often the case that the simplest and quickest way is to de-install and
re-install even though its annoying not finding the actual fault. At some time in the future
you'll probably come across the setting somewhere in the driver and be able to say "that must
have been what it was", but it's more important to get everything working now rather than having
some deep investigation.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Alan Heiser wrote:

> Thanks Ed.
>
> Text file piped to printer worked fine, so...
> Removed all laserjet drivers, downloaded latest from IBM Device Driver site and
> reloaded.  Driver Version is now 30.797 and seems to be working as expected.
>
> Thank you for the assistance
>
> Alan
>
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:15:03 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
>
> >OK,
> >
> >What happens if you copy a text file (eg CONFIG.SYS) to LPT1: ??
> >
> >If the "separator page" still comes out, it's something in the printer - pull out the manual
> and
> >go through every setting on the printers menu panels.
> >
> >If it doesn't come out, delete and re-install the printer. By default separator pages are
> turned
> >off when you install a new printer.
> >
> >I suspect that it's actually something on the printer.
> >
> >Cheers/2
> >
> >Ed.
> >
> >Alan Heiser wrote:
> >
> >> Direct via LPT1
> >>
> >> Alan
> >>
> >> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:36:07 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
> >>
> >> >Printing direct to the printer via LPD or via a server ??
> >> >
> >> >Cheers/2
> >> >
> >> >Ed.
> >> >
> >> >Alan Heiser wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> For some reason my printer has decided to print a page outlining the print job
> >> before
> >> >> actually printing the job.  This appears to be a separator page as set in print
> options
> >> of
> >> >> the printer properties notebook.  But there is no separator file specified at that
> place.
> >> In
> >> >> fact, specifying a separator file means the specified file only is printed.
> >> >>
> >> >> Looking at a print job as a metafile does not show a separator file, so it is
> something
> >> >> the printer is setting between spooling the job and actually printing it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Very annoying, and I can find no way of switching it off.
> >> >>
> >> >> Printer is HP Laserjet 6L and printer driver is LASERJET.HP Laserjet 6L and the
> >> >> version is the one that came with the ECS 1.1 (Version 30.778).  OS is of course
> ECS
> >> 1.1
> >> >>
> >> >> Any suggestions?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Alan
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >>  
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > 
> >
> >>
> >
> >>  
> >
> >

> > 

>

>  

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Date:  Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:23:02 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera

Yeah, for some reason when one installs the MSD driver without parameters it decides you MUST have an
USB floppy and USB CD-Rom drive and adds these to the drives folder, shuffling drive letters as it does
so ! Strange behaviour, I would have thought no USB Floppy and no USB CD-Rom would have been the default
but perhaps the target market is IBM Thinkpads, that have these devices.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Michael Taylor wrote:

> Ed Durrant wrote:
> >
> > Michael Taylor wrote:
> >
> >
> >>My Olympus C-120 (2MP, 8MB internal memory, 2.5X Digital zoom) works with the USB support on Os/2.
> >>
> >>I attach the cammera to the USB port using the supplied cable and it appears as another drive
> >>letter. The current model is the C-150 and that one is available for $198- at BigW.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Hi Mick,
> >
> >   Have you sent details of your success to  http://www.os2world dot com/os2usb/  to be added to their
> > database ??
>
> No, not yet. I only got it working last night. When I tried it first I lost all
> network, NTFS  and JFS drives. Then I saw a post with the parameters on USBMSD.
> I unremmed the USB drivers, added the paramters and it worked properly.
>
> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBD.SYS /REQ:USBUHCD$,USBOHCD$,USBEHCD$
> BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /FLOPPIES:0 /REMOVABLES:2
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mick
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>      Michael Taylor                                 miket at pcug dot org dot au
>     -----------------------------------------------------------------
>               Home Page:  http://miket.actweagl dot net dot au/miket/
>     -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
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>

>  

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Date:  Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:35:32 +1100 (EST)
From:  voytek at sbt dot net dot au
Subject:  Re:  WS4eB: network applications et-al

> Hi Ed,
> PMPDF will create PDFs, just use Copyshop, Imagescan/2 or Tame/2 to
> "print" to the  PDF printer. Exactly the same sort of process as faxing
> to PMfax.

if it's a bit map image, why would you bother to PDF....?
just scan to PMfax, and, that's it, bit pointless to go past that...
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