Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 621
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 00:04:04 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Monday 19 May 2003
 Number  621
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  eCS install questions : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
2   FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
3  Re:  FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
4  Re:  FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
5  Re:  eCS install questions : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
6  Re:  FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
7  Re:  FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
8   OS/2 Pre-installed on X-Series server. : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re:  FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
10  Re:  FP15 and Dialog Boxes : David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
11  Re:  FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Voytek Eymont <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
12  Re:  OS/2 Pre-installed on X-Series server. : <gn at smart-road dot com dot au>
13  Re:  OS/2 Pre-installed on X-Series server. : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>

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Date:  Mon, 19 May 2003 06:47:19 +1100
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS install questions

Ian Manners wrote:

>>P133 ?? I still use 486SL 66 s;
>>    
>>
>
>All my servers are old IBM Valuepoint 486's with warp4, and between
>32 and 64Mb RAM except my main webserver.
>
>If it aint broke......  :-)
>
>The only thing I need a PIII or higher, or a PowerPC for is Mozilla and Staroffice.
>
>Cheers
>Ian B Manners
>http://www.os2site dot com/
>
>Bug-free environment; please do not use Windows.

> 

>
>
>  
>
Hi Ian,
Do you have a version of OS/2 for PowerPC running?!!!
Regards,
Mike
p.s. BTW Loving my new  eCS 1.1 (minor glitches only on 11 minute 
install of Entry).

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Date:  Mon, 19 May 2003 07:54:11 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
Subject:   FP15 and Dialog Boxes

Hi all,

What is it with FP 15 that would mess up dialog boxes in a few programs.  The 
Important programs in question are Colorworks V2 patched and another program (not 
important though) is Links for OS/2.

The symptoms are missing parts of the dialog boxes, and in the case of Colorworks, 
half the image is black when zoomed or minimized to the Colorworks desktop.

Originally I thought that it was SDD that was the culpret, however after reverting back to 
an old SDD that I know did not have this problem (ie before fp15 update) to find the 
problem was still there, I now know it is FP15.

I do have the SET ENH_STRETCH=NO line in config.sys to stop washed out icons.
Any ideas?

Cheers
G

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Date:  Mon, 19 May 2003 08:13:15 +1100
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  FP15 and Dialog Boxes

Gavin Miller wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>What is it with FP 15 that would mess up dialog boxes in a few programs.  The 
>Important programs in question are Colorworks V2 patched and another program (not 
>important though) is Links for OS/2.
>
>The symptoms are missing parts of the dialog boxes, and in the case of Colorworks, 
>half the image is black when zoomed or minimized to the Colorworks desktop.
>
>Originally I thought that it was SDD that was the culpret, however after reverting back to 
>an old SDD that I know did not have this problem (ie before fp15 update) to find the 
>problem was still there, I now know it is FP15.
>
>I do have the SET ENH_STRETCH=NO line in config.sys to stop washed out icons.
>Any ideas?
>  
>
Hi Gavin,
I can't offer much except to say that I run Colorworks V2 with 
FP15/16/MCPx/eCS 1.0 and very shortly under 1.1, only base installation 
CD#1 implemented so far, on this machine with NO problems at all.  What 
was that patch you were referring to  - the only thing I updated on mine 
was to get the "Lesson 8" from 9th March 1996 from Ian's os2site dot com, 
was there something else?
Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Mon, 19 May 2003 08:29:06 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  FP15 and Dialog Boxes

Hi Mike,

There are two patches.  One was from SPG before they stopped OS/2 support, and it's 
for fixing the information bar at the bottom of each canvas in Warp4.  The other, and the 
one I was refering to, is for SDD drivers and Colorworks crashing when using gradients 
or stacked previews.  The problem now is the Right hand side of canvases not being 
drawn if scaled to less than 100%.  If Mr. Administrator would allow, I could post a 
screen shot to show what I'm talking about.

BTW my Warp4 revision number is 14.062, which I'm pretty sure is FP15.  After a quick 
search on google I found that colorworks has had this problem since FP13.

You say you don't have this proplem on your FP15 system?  That's interesting.

Cheers
G

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Date:  Mon, 19 May 2003 12:52:08 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  eCS install questions

Hi Mike

> Do you have a version of OS/2 for PowerPC running?!!!

Not anymore, the kernal is to dated. I use AIX on the RS/6000
and OSX on the G4, both PowerPC's

Cheers
Ian B Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

It makes sense to fine-tune the version of NT running on
your system today, turn it off.
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Date:  Mon, 19 May 2003 12:58:16 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  FP15 and Dialog Boxes

Hi Gavin

> The symptoms are missing parts of the dialog boxes, and in the case of Colorworks, 
> half the image is black when zoomed or minimized to the Colorworks desktop.
 
If memory serves, FP13, 14, and 15 had some minor problems with
PMMERGE.DLL which was fixed in subsequent verions of that file,
I had a similar problem around that time, and a testcase version
fixed the problem.

Try pmmerge0927.zip in http://www.os2site dot com/sw/upgrades/patches/
only if the filedate is more recent than the one on your PMMERGE.DLL.
As always BACKUP before replacing !

Description :-    IBM TestCase  PMMerge file. Fixes up a few minor
                              problems with fonts and displaying, apparently also
                              fixes system freeze opening/closing NS 4.61 x times.

Cheers
Ian B Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

If you said what you thought, you'd be speechless.
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Date:  Mon, 19 May 2003 17:12:42 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  FP15 and Dialog Boxes

Can't seem to get it Ian.  The new pmmerge.dll extracts as a data file and will not 
change to an executable no matter what I do.  I have renamed the old file 
pmmerge.bak but still holds it's exectutable flag.  The problem with dialog boxes and 
colorworks remains, which leads me to think that the new dll is not executing and the 
one renamed to .bak, is.  I didn't think that was possible but.... unless there is a nice way 
to replace these things that I don't know about.  Any instructions?

Cheers
G

On Mon, 19 May 2003 12:58:16 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote:

>Hi Gavin
>
>> The symptoms are missing parts of the dialog boxes, and in the case of 
Colorworks, 
>> half the image is black when zoomed or minimized to the Colorworks desktop.
> 
>If memory serves, FP13, 14, and 15 had some minor problems with
>PMMERGE.DLL which was fixed in subsequent verions of that file,
>I had a similar problem around that time, and a testcase version
>fixed the problem.
>
>Try pmmerge0927.zip in http://www.os2site dot com/sw/upgrades/patches/
>only if the filedate is more recent than the one on your PMMERGE.DLL.
>As always BACKUP before replacing !
>
>Description :-    IBM TestCase  PMMerge file. Fixes up a few minor
>                              problems with fonts and displaying, apparently also
>                              fixes system freeze opening/closing NS 4.61 x times.
>
>Cheers
>Ian B Manners
>http://www.os2site dot com/
>
>If you said what you thought, you'd be speechless.

> 

>

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Date:  Mon, 19 May 2003 20:00:29 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   OS/2 Pre-installed on X-Series server.

I just found a new IBM X-series server today, that was delivered,
pre-installed with OS/2 Warp and Communications Server/2. The server is
considered a communications device rather than a "normal" Intel based
server, however that's exactly what it was.

if an IBM customer required a mainframe communications controller, where
they previously have been sold a 3274 or 3174 type controller, they now
will receive an X-series box with OS/2 running CS/2 !   (I guess at some
point this'll change to being Linux, but at the moment OS/2 is still the
choice for "mission critical" systems it seems).

Cheers/2

Ed.

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Date:  Mon, 19 May 2003 20:52:12 +1000
From:  "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  FP15 and Dialog Boxes

Gavin,

For this sort of nuts and bolts thing, don't use the GUI
interface.  The GUI is for day to day stuff only.

Either use the commandline or use File Commander/2 for os/2.

Using the gui can result in the REAL name being unchanged
but the name YOU SEE (longname) is all that has changed.

Regards,
BobT.

On Mon, 19 May 2003 17:12:42 +1000 (EST), Gavin Miller wrote:

> Can't seem to get it Ian.  The new pmmerge.dll extracts as a data file and will not 
> change to an executable no matter what I do.  I have renamed the old file 
> pmmerge.bak but still holds it's exectutable flag.  The problem with dialog boxes and 
> colorworks remains, which leads me to think that the new dll is not executing and the 
> one renamed to .bak, is.  I didn't think that was possible but.... unless there is a nice way 
> to replace these things that I don't know about.  Any instructions?
> 
> Cheers
> G
> 
> On Mon, 19 May 2003 12:58:16 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote:
> 
> >Hi Gavin
> >
> >> The symptoms are missing parts of the dialog boxes, and in the case of 
> Colorworks, 
> >> half the image is black when zoomed or minimized to the Colorworks desktop.
> > 
> >If memory serves, FP13, 14, and 15 had some minor problems with
> >PMMERGE.DLL which was fixed in subsequent verions of that file,
> >I had a similar problem around that time, and a testcase version
> >fixed the problem.
> >
> >Try pmmerge0927.zip in http://www.os2site dot com/sw/upgrades/patches/
> >only if the filedate is more recent than the one on your PMMERGE.DLL.
> >As always BACKUP before replacing !
> >
> >Description :-    IBM TestCase  PMMerge file. Fixes up a few minor
> >                              problems with fonts and displaying, apparently also
> >                              fixes system freeze opening/closing NS 4.61 x times.
> >
> >Cheers
> >Ian B Manners
> >http://www.os2site dot com/

   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynor at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au
 \_,--.x/ 

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Date:  Mon, 19 May 2003 21:01:12 +1000 (EST)
From:  "David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  FP15 and Dialog Boxes

On Mon, 19 May 2003 17:12:42 +1000 (EST), Gavin Miller wrote:

>Can't seem to get it Ian.  The new pmmerge.dll extracts as a data file and will not 
>change to an executable no matter what I do.  I have renamed the old file 
>pmmerge.bak but still holds it's exectutable flag.  The problem with dialog boxes and 
>colorworks remains, which leads me to think that the new dll is not executing and the 
>one renamed to .bak, is.  I didn't think that was possible but.... unless there is a nice way 
>to replace these things that I don't know about.  Any instructions?

As it's a DLL, you never execute it directly.  Other programs find it,
load it, and execute parts of it.  Just replace the old one with the
new one, and reboot.  Though, you may have to unlock the existing DLL,
or do this after booting from the command line.

But, I don't really think this is the problem.  SDD has three extra
CONFIG.SYS lines you can add.  Mine are: 

SET SDDFONTSIZE=SMALL     - SMALL, MEDIUM or LARGE
SET SDDFONTDPI=96               - 96 or 120
SET SDDICONS=SMALL            - SMALL or LARGE

The defaults are based on the resolution, and, I think for 1024*768 or
higher, it is LARGE, 120 and LARGE.  I find the settings I have make
dialogs and icons look better on my laptop at that resolution.

--
David Forrester
davidfor at internode.on dot net
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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Date:  Mon, 19 May 2003 22:11:18
From:  Voytek Eymont <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  FP15 and Dialog Boxes

** Reply to note from "David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net> Mon, 19 May 2003 21:01:12 +1000 (EST)

> As it's a DLL, you never execute it directly.  Other programs find it, 
> load it, and execute parts of it.  Just replace the old one with the 
> new one, and reboot.  Though, you may have to unlock the existing DLL, 
> or do this after booting from the command line.

repmod will help with that (Unlocking):

[<echidna>-D:\]repmod
repmod (c)1995,1996 Secant Technologies
Not for resale, feel free to redistribute with acknowledgement.
Visit us at http://www.secant dot com

Usage: repmod oldmodule [newmodule] [backupmodule]

 This program releases modules that are currently running and cannot
             be written to or deleted.
 - With 1 parameter, repmod releases oldmodule so it may be written to.
 - With 2 parameters, repmod releases oldmodule and replaces it with
             newmodule.
 - With 3 parameters, repmod releases oldmodule, replaces it with
             newmodule and saves oldmodule as backupmodule

though, you'll still need to reboot to start using the new dll

Voytek Eymont

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Date:  Mon, 19 May 2003 22:06:47 +0930
From:  <gn at smart-road dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 Pre-installed on X-Series server.

HI Ed

well we have had an IBM 220X server running our file and print server with Warp Server (for e business )for almost three years!

runs a treat and no hiccups for months!

On Mon, 19 May 2003 20:00:29 +1000, edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au wrote:

>I just found a new IBM X-series server today, that was delivered,
>pre-installed with OS/2 Warp and Communications Server/2. The server is
>considered a communications device rather than a "normal" Intel based
>server, however that's exactly what it was.
>
>if an IBM customer required a mainframe communications controller, where
>they previously have been sold a 3274 or 3174 type controller, they now
>will receive an X-series box with OS/2 running CS/2 !   (I guess at some
>point this'll change to being Linux, but at the moment OS/2 is still the
>choice for "mission critical" systems it seems).
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>

> 

>
>

Graham Norton
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Date:  Mon, 19 May 2003 23:08:35 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 Pre-installed on X-Series server.

But it didn't come "pre-installed" with OS/2 did it ?  That's my point.

Ed.

gn at smart-road dot com dot au wrote:

> HI Ed
>
> well we have had an IBM 220X server running our file and print server with Warp Server (for e business )for almost three years!
>
> runs a treat and no hiccups for months!
>
> On Mon, 19 May 2003 20:00:29 +1000, edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au wrote:
>
> >I just found a new IBM X-series server today, that was delivered,
> >pre-installed with OS/2 Warp and Communications Server/2. The server is
> >considered a communications device rather than a "normal" Intel based
> >server, however that's exactly what it was.
> >
> >if an IBM customer required a mainframe communications controller, where
> >they previously have been sold a 3274 or 3174 type controller, they now
> >will receive an X-series box with OS/2 running CS/2 !   (I guess at some
> >point this'll change to being Linux, but at the moment OS/2 is still the
> >choice for "mission critical" systems it seems).
> >
> >Cheers/2
> >
> >Ed.
> >

> > 

> >
> >
>
> Graham Norton

>  

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