Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 572
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:02:03 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Thursday 20 March 2003
 Number  572
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Subjects for today
 
1  [os2genau] New toy -Best thing since sliced bread.! : Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
2  Re: [os2genau] New toy -Best thing since sliced bread.! : Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
3  Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Michael Barrow" <mb at netstra dot com dot au>
4  Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
5  Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
6  Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
7  Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
8  Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Voytek Eymont <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
9  [os2genau] Polarbar : Michael Barrow" <mb at netstra dot com dot au>
10  Re: [os2genau] Polarbar : Voytek Eymont <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>

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Date:  Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:14:15 +1000
From:  "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] New toy -Best thing since sliced bread.!

Hi All,

I have a mixture of IDE and Ultr160 and scsi 2 system.
Win98se, WinXP and Os/2 and eCS.

I ordered from Harris Technologies last week a new toy 
for the computer.  I was helping a friend with his computer
yesterday and I got him to drop me off at Office Works
to pick it up afterwards. (still no car - hope to pick it
up tomorrow).  Harris Technology have an outlet in the 
Oakleigh Office Works store.  

I ordered the adapter and as part of the on-line shopping,
chose to "pickup from store" and pay on pickup.
No CREDIT CARD required.!  I did have to register prior to
placing the order, which took a day or so.

It is a IDE to SCSI to IDE.  $99.00 Australian.

Some info here:-
http://www.ht dot com dot au/Scripts/xworks.exe?PART:E0697

I have all 4 possible IDE devices running in my system.
2 hard drives and 1 Pioneer DVD reader and 1 LG CDRW burner.

The old tray mounted Zip drive (which could be swapped
with a LS-120 drive) had to be disconnected when the DVD
went in, as there was no available IDE connection.  
The adapter means that the removable tray is now 
connected to the low speed scsi 50 pin cable and works 
as normal.  

Windows 98 and XP and OS/2 all think it is a genuine 
scsi drive.  The Zip drive appears to work as normal
but the LS-120 is a fraction slower.

Of course, to change the ZIP drive for the LS-120
I have to power off, replace the tray and reboot.
And vice versa.

Apparently just about anything IDE can be accessed as
scsi with this adapter.  There is a caveat in the 
instructions to do with CDRW drives though.
Apparently some software burning packages may 
have problems.

So they advise not to fit IDE CDRW's to the adapter
unless desperate.

I presume DVD burner drives would also have problems.
(Don't have one yet.)

Harris Technologies was the only store I could find in 
Australia that would even take the order, let alone 
get one in for me.  

Very readily available in the USA but at double the 
price as compared to the one I got here, strangely
enough. Most I located in USA wanted from US$ 120 and up.

Regards to All,

Robert Traynor (BobT).
20 March 2003   18:03

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 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au
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Date:  Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:18:19 +1000
From:  "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] New toy -Best thing since sliced bread.!

Oh Damn,

I meant It is a "SCSI to IDE" CARD.  $99.00 Australian

Excuse.
Robert Traynor (BobT).
20 March 2003   18:18

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:14:15 +1000, Robert Traynor  (BobT) wrote:

> It is a IDE to SCSI to IDE.  $99.00 Australian

   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au
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Date:  Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:44:14 +1100
From:  "Michael Barrow" <mb at netstra dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client

** Reply to message from Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> on Fri, 14 Mar
2003 07:31:54 +1100
Ed / Daryl,
Polarbar has all those functions.
However I have to tell you to read the manual 'cos I don't use them.
I am however bias as Polarbar is the best email client bar none and what sets
it apart is the great help from the volunteers that develop and support it.
Truely a better group you couldn't find.

Regards,
Michael

P.S. Composed with Polarbar 1.24c, Java 1.18 and OS/2
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Date:  Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:44:09 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client

So where do I get Polar Bear from / is it on Hobbes ??

Ed.

Michael Barrow wrote:

> ** Reply to message from Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> on Fri, 14 Mar
> 2003 07:31:54 +1100
> Ed / Daryl,
> Polarbar has all those functions.
> However I have to tell you to read the manual 'cos I don't use them.
> I am however bias as Polarbar is the best email client bar none and what sets
> it apart is the great help from the volunteers that develop and support it.
> Truely a better group you couldn't find.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>
> P.S. Composed with Polarbar 1.24c, Java 1.18 and OS/2

>  

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Date:  Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:17:45 +1050 (CDT)
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:44:09 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>So where do I get Polar Bear from / is it on Hobbes ??

www.polarbar dot org

Rgds,

Paul.

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Date:  Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:57:49 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client

Got it thanks.

  Looking at some of the files in it, is it based on JStreet mailer ??

  Ed.

Paul Smedley wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:44:09 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
>
> >So where do I get Polar Bear from / is it on Hobbes ??
>
> www.polarbar dot org
>
> Rgds,
>
> Paul.
>

>  

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Date:  Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:31:59 +1050 (CDT)
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:57:49 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Got it thanks.
>
>  Looking at some of the files in it, is it based on JStreet mailer ??

Yep - after Innoval dropped, they released the source code and it evovled into 
Polarbar

Rgds,

Paul.

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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:29:41
From:  Voytek Eymont <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client

** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:57:49 +1100

> Looking at some of the files in it, is it based on JStreet mailer ??

yep.

About Polarbar

Who we are:

The Polarbar Mailer is a volunteer-based project team located around the
world. It is a 100% pure Java application, originally designed and created
by a company named Innoval. When Innoval decided to give up development of
the original product (then known as J Street Mailer), there was still a core
group of 10 or 12 users who monitored the mailing list. Two of those users
were Paul van Keep and Mike Bowler who decided to take on the task of
continuing the development effort. Innoval gave them permission and that
began the Polarbar organization. 

Origin of the name: 

Back in the dark ages, when Microsoft was small and IBM thought OS/2 was the
future an executive from Prime quit his job and decided to start a software
developer conference focussed on OS/2. This became the ColoradOS/2
conference held for the first year in January 1993. The second conference,
in November of that same year, and every conference after that, was
unofficially concluded by having a Friday afternoon party in the hot tub
with lots of good malt. This hot tub happening came to be known as the
Polarbar club. Paul van Keep and Mike Bowler knew each other from that
conference and so Mike thought it would be appropriate to take Polarbar as
the name for the mailer. That is how Polarbar came to be known as Polarbar. 

Voytek Eymont

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Date:  Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:02:35 +1100
From:  "Michael Barrow" <mb at netstra dot com dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] Polarbar

Greetings all,
Yes Polarbar originated from JStreet Mailer.
Back when I used Post Road Mailer (OS/2 native from Innoval) I started having
problems with large attachments.
The options from Innoval were go up one version of PRM or go to the way of the
future a java mailer.
So I took the java approach. It was beta but I was brave back then.
Oops.
On my 300 MHz K6 with 128 Meg of RAM it ran like a dog.
Some time down the track and many beta releases later I loaded Daniella's fix
for OS/2 to see all the RAM.
Suddenly JStreet actually ran almost reasonable.
Then Innoval dropped it like a hot rock.
I was sitting in limbo until Paul Van Keep and the team came along.
The work they have done is nothing short of a miracle.
Support is the best I've had from anyone for anything.
They are always willing to listen to suggestions for new versions and they
never get tired of answering the same questions over and over.
Quite simply I'm sold on it.
When I demo'ed Polarbar to the MelbPC SIG some 18 months to 2 years ago several
people asked me very probing questions about functions that their favorite
mailer had.
I didn't know if they were there as I hadn't needed them but I was glad to find
that everything that was requested was there.
It's come along way from there.
For those who cop a lot of spam then you should go to the www.polarbar dot org site
and follow the links to the sites about Baysian Filtering which Polarbar now
has.
This spam filter uses probability on the subjects and contents of emails to
weed out the duds.
The testimonies of those who use this are stunning.

So I guess I've rabbited on enough now so I'll leave with
www.polarbar dot org

Best Wishes to all.

Regards,
Michael
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Date:  Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:04:10
From:  Voytek Eymont <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Polarbar

** Reply to note from "Michael Barrow" <mb at netstra dot com dot au> Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:02:35 +1100

> Some time down the track and many beta releases later I loaded Daniella's fix 
> for OS/2 to see all the RAM.

what's D RAM fix, and, how do you tell you need it ..?

Voytek Eymont

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