Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 565
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 00:02:02 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Thursday 13 March 2003
 Number  565
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Subjects for today
 
1  [os2genau] Cookies again : Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
2  Re: [os2genau] Cookies again : Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
3  [os2genau] OT: Soltek MB : Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
4  [os2genau] VPC from MS Re: Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003 : Voytek Eymont <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
5  Re: [os2genau] VPC from MS Re: Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003 : VE" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
6  Re: [os2genau] VPC from MS Re: Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003 : VE" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
7  Re: [os2genau] OT: Soltek MB : Daryl Pilkington" <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
8  [os2genau] Starbase and Read only files??? : Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
9  Re: [os2genau] VPC from MS Re: Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003 : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
10  [os2genau] Innotek still Independant : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
11  Re: [os2genau] VPC from MS Re: Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
12  Re: [os2genau] OT: Soltek MB : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
13  Re: [os2genau] Starbase and Read only files??? : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
14  Re: [os2genau] Innotek still Independant : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
15  Re: [os2genau] VPC from MS Re: Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003 : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:51:52 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] Cookies again

Hi guys,

Have you ever noticed that if cookies are set to a limited life in Mozilla 1.2.1 that quite a 
few pages report that cookies are disabled and won't load.

Cheers
G

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:01:50 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Cookies again

Update to that last post.

MSN people finder reports cookies disabled anyway no matter what cookie settings 
are used.  A big YIPPEEE for MS quality control :-(

Cheers
G

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:20:13 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] OT: Soltek MB

Sorry guys but I can't remember who on the list delt with soltek mobo's.  (really must 
start archiving my e-mail)

Anywho.... needs a price on the SL-75DRV5.

Many many thanks
G

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:41:04
From:  Voytek Eymont <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] VPC from MS Re: Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003

sorry, Ian,

what's os2genau address....?
could you pls bounce this up to os2genau

Forwarding note from: "Kerstin Baxter" <3_45387_346ED564-A400-4E27-ADA2-60E29E1403AD_AU at Newsletters.Microsoft dot com> Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:59:13 -0800

Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003

Dear Partner,

We've had an positive response from our Microsoft for Partner briefings, with one more to go in Perth on Thursday, 13 March 2003. The sessions have been about giving you the knowledge and skills you need to help build your business through our new campaign activities, enhanced partner programs and greater access to Microsoft. The presentations will be available on the Microsoft for Partners Web site in the upcoming weeks.

....

Virtual Machine Solution Unveiled
http://go.microsoft dot com/?linkid=94239
Microsoft will soon unveil Virtual Server - a virtual machine solution
developed with Connectix Corporation that will make it easier for your
customers to migrate legacy applications and consolidate their application
servers. Learn more at the site. 

.....

Voytek Eymont

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:46:23 +0000
From:  "VE" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] VPC from MS Re: Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:41:04, Voytek Eymont wrote:

>Virtual Machine Solution Unveiled
>http://go.microsoft dot com/?linkid=94239
>Microsoft will soon unveil Virtual Server - a virtual machine solution
>developed with Connectix Corporation that will make it easier for your
>customers to migrate legacy applications and consolidate their application
>servers. Learn more at the site. 

and, surprise, surprise, surprise:

what it says in part is:

---
Q.  What assets is Microsoft acquiring? 
   
A.  Microsoft is purchasing the following products and technologies: Virtual PC for Windows, Virtual PC for Mac, and 
Virtual Server. Microsoft is also bringing on board key members of the Connectix team to continue moving these 
products forward.
 ---

hmmm, somewhat different to the other announcement... now, what's it missing, I wonder...?
looks like they haven't aquired the OS/2 VPC... or perhaps it doesn;t exist any more...

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:48:25 +0000
From:  "VE" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] VPC from MS Re: Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:41:04, Voytek Eymont wrote:

>sorry, Ian,
>
>what's os2genau address....?
>could you pls bounce this up to os2genau
>
>
>Forwarding note from: "Kerstin Baxter" <3_45387_346ED564-A400-4E27-ADA2-
60E29E1403AD_AU at Newsletters.Microsoft dot com> Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:59:13 -0800
>
>Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003
>
>Dear Partner,

>Virtual Machine Solution Unveiled
>http://go.microsoft dot com/?linkid=94239

sorry, forgot to include the rest of altered plans in the next item, plan for

Q.  What assets is Microsoft acquiring? 
   
A.  Microsoft is purchasing the following products and technologies: Virtual PC for Windows, Virtual PC for Mac, and 
Virtual Server. Microsoft is also bringing on board key members of the Connectix team to continue moving these 
products forward.

Q.  What are Microsoft's plans for these Connectix products? 
   
A.  Microsoft is committed to the continued development and sales of the Connectix Virtual PC products, both for Mac 
and Windows operating environments, as well as Virtual Server. Connectix will continue to support and sell the Virtual 
PC products during the transition, subsequent to which Microsoft will assume these functions. Virtual Server, which is 
currently undergoing beta test, will be transitioned to Microsoft and will be made available once software development 
and testing are completed.

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:00:19 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] OT: Soltek MB

Hi Gavin,
That was me, I no longer work for Altech Computers who import the
mobos.
Look at:
http://www.altech dot com dot au
Prices\Premium Retailers

Ed Durrant purchased a SL-75DRV5 from me when I was working at Altech &
it works very well with OS/2. There are a few minor quirks, since
Soltek only test their mobos with Windoze.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:20:13 +1000 (EST), Gavin Miller wrote:

>Sorry guys but I can't remember who on the list delt with soltek mobo's.  (really must 
>start archiving my e-mail)
>
>Anywho.... needs a price on the SL-75DRV5.
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:20:17 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] Starbase and Read only files???

Hi all,

I've been using Starbase (staroffice 5.1a) to set up a client database.  I've backed up 
the database files onto cd, however now when I restore the files the form I created will 
only work when the attribute to the data file is set to read only.  Changing this so I can 
add data crashes staroffice with out any messages.  Anyone know why this is and if 
there is a fix?

PS. I've already downloaded and applied a fix listed on Sun's support page for another 
problem with starbase and it seems to be the only one listed.

Cheers
G

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 02:02:02 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] VPC from MS Re: Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003

VE schreef:

> A.  Microsoft is purchasing the following products and technologies: Virtual PC for Windows, Virtual PC for Mac, and
> Virtual Server. Microsoft is also bringing on board key members of the Connectix team to continue moving these
> products forward.
>  ---
>
> hmmm, somewhat different to the other announcement... now, what's it missing, I wonder...?
> looks like they haven't aquired the OS/2 VPC... or perhaps it doesn;t exist any more...
>

As a matter of fact, it's already discontinued now. Even so  important:

***
Microsoft is also bringing on board key members of the Connectix team to continue moving these products forward.
*****

Meaning Flash/2 has reached his end of life too. For M$ won't allow his "key members" brought "onboard" to work on
anything else than M$ stuff. And as a matter of fact, Innotek now is nothing more than an empty box.

"moving forward" he... <BG>

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:04:08 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] Innotek still Independant

Following Kris's comments that he thought Innotek had been sold to
Microsoft,
I decided to ask Oliver Stein - Director of Innotek Systems straight out
- here is
his reply:

(he gave me permission to post this on our forum).

Oliver Stein wrote:

> Ed,
>
> no worries, everything will continue the way it is...
>
> InnoTek is still a privately owned company!
>
> What web forum are you referring to?
>
> Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
> Oliver Stein
> Sales Director
> InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> http://www.innotek.de
> phone: +49 7121 209760
>

Cheers/2

Ed.

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:20:53 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] VPC from MS Re: Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003

According to a (FAQ) link from the page Ian has posted - ie at

http://www.microsoft dot com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/faqs/virtualizationfaq.mspx

Microsoft purchased Virtual Server, Virtual PC for Windows and Virtual PC for MAC - there is no mention of them purchasing Virtual PC for OS/2.

What can we read into this ???

Cheers/2

Ed.

Voytek Eymont wrote:

> sorry, Ian,
>
> what's os2genau address....?
> could you pls bounce this up to os2genau
>
> Forwarding note from: "Kerstin Baxter" <3_45387_346ED564-A400-4E27-ADA2-60E29E1403AD_AU at Newsletters.Microsoft dot com> Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:59:13 -0800
>
> Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003
>
> Dear Partner,
>
> We've had an positive response from our Microsoft for Partner briefings, with one more to go in Perth on Thursday, 13 March 2003. The sessions have been about giving you the knowledge and skills you need to help build your business through our new campaign activities, enhanced partner programs and greater access to Microsoft. The presentations will be available on the Microsoft for Partners Web site in the upcoming weeks.
>
> ...
>
> Virtual Machine Solution Unveiled
> http://go.microsoft dot com/?linkid=94239
> Microsoft will soon unveil Virtual Server - a virtual machine solution
> developed with Connectix Corporation that will make it easier for your
> customers to migrate legacy applications and consolidate their application
> servers. Learn more at the site.
>
> ....
>
> Voytek Eymont
>

>  

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:41:26 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] OT: Soltek MB

I have a Soltek MB, I guess the better technical contact may be Daryl however.

Whats the question ??

Ed.

Gavin Miller wrote:

> Sorry guys but I can't remember who on the list delt with soltek mobo's.  (really must
> start archiving my e-mail)
>
> Anywho.... needs a price on the SL-75DRV5.
>
> Many many thanks
> G
>

>  

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:45:55 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Starbase and Read only files???

Could it be how you backed up to CD and restored the files.

The best way is to package them in someway - ZIP is as good as anything, in that way
EAs and attribute bytes remain as they should be.

If you simply copied the files to a CD (via Windoze perhaps), the EAs are lost and
the attribute bit is set to read only (can't write to a CD).

Any chance of repeating the exercise but using OS/2 zip and unzip and then just writing the
ZIP file to the CD ??

Cheers/2

Ed.

Gavin Miller wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've been using Starbase (staroffice 5.1a) to set up a client database.  I've backed up
> the database files onto cd, however now when I restore the files the form I created will
> only work when the attribute to the data file is set to read only.  Changing this so I can
> add data crashes staroffice with out any messages.  Anyone know why this is and if
> there is a fix?
>
> PS. I've already downloaded and applied a fix listed on Sun's support page for another
> problem with starbase and it seems to be the only one listed.
>
> Cheers
> G
>

>  

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:54:53 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Innotek still Independant

Ed Durrant schreef:

> Following Kris's comments that he thought Innotek had been sold to
> Microsoft,

I did say Innotek is an empty box.

> I decided to ask Oliver Stein - Director of Innotek Systems straight out
> - here is
> his reply:
>
> >
> > no worries, everything will continue the way it is...
> >
> > InnoTek is still a privately owned company!
> >
> > What web forum are you referring to?
> >

Boy, this is disgusting.

Does he say VPC for OS/2 will be continued? Does he say There will  be a version 6 of
Flash for OS2?

> everything will continue the way it is...
>

Just means everything is moving to M$ the way is was planned.

You better had ask him about the meaning of this at the *INNOTEK* site:

> People migrating away from legacy OS/2 are the principle users of the
> Connectix Windows client product. Microsoft is fully committed to carrying
> that effort forward and to helping those sun-setting OS/2 in 2006 migrate
> over to XP."
>                         Roy McDonald, CEO, Connectix Corp.
>
So, what does he really mean when saying "continuing the way  ways it is"? Rather
obvious , isn't it, as all the programmers but one have moved to M$. The but one is
Markus Minkowsky, who has his own firm now.

BTW: We've met Mr Stein at WarpStock Arnhem, where he had been fooling us for 3 days.

Disgusting!

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:01:33 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] VPC from MS Re: Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003

Ed Durrant schreef:

> According to a (FAQ) link from the page Ian has posted - ie at
>
> http://www.microsoft dot com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/faqs/virtualizationfaq.mspx
>
> Microsoft purchased Virtual Server, Virtual PC for Windows and Virtual PC for MAC - there is no mention of them purchasing Virtual PC for OS/2.
>
> What can we read into this ???
>

Dear Ed, you really should do better:

http://www.connectix dot com/about/acquisition_win.html

Whithin 6 months there will be no VPC for OS/2 anymore, and probably much sooner.

M$ and M$ business is about lying and lying and lying and ...

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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