Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 421
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 00:01:06 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Tuesday 13 August 2002
 Number  421
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner??? : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
2  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner??? : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
3  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner??? : Daryl Pilkington" <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
4  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner??? : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
5  [os2genau] ot: doze tool kit ? : Voytek Eymont <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
6  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner??? : Voytek Eymont <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
7  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner??? : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
8  Re: [os2genau] ot: doze tool kit ? : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re: [os2genau] ot: doze tool kit ? : David Halprin" <davidlaz at net2000 dot com dot au>
10  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner??? : Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
11  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner??? : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
12  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner??? : Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
13  [os2genau] ot:  Sticker design competition. : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
14  [os2genau] ot:  Sticker design competition.] : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
15  Re: [os2genau] ot:  Sticker design competition.] : madodel at ptdprolog dot net
16  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner??? : ve" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>

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Date:  Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:15:09 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner???

Hi Nick,

 I use Audio/Data CD recorder with CDRECORD/2 all the time, you DO need the correct
ASPI driver and Danis drivers (replacing the IBM ones). Then it all works. Audio/Data
CD Recorder does not have a cd to cd copy function. I have downloaded a rexx program
from HOBBES called CDCOPY that I use, but note, this CANNOT copy boot CDs and there is
also a parameter wrong on the call to MKISOFS line in the code that needs to be simply
removed.

CDRWIZ is supposed to be able to copy CDs but I've never been able to get CDRWIZ to
work correctly (other have however). Be careful when downloading CDRWIZ, for some
reason the download won't work using NS 461. I use Mozilla or Opera.

The problem you had with CD's not being usable could be the make of the CD media as
well. I have had this problem a couple of times. I find my Ricoh CDBurner works fine
with "cheap and cheerful" no-name CDR blanks but TDK and other expensive CD simply
don't write correctly !

Good luck with setting everything up, drop a line on the list if you have any problems.

Cheers/2

Ed.

nickl at arach dot net dot au wrote:

> Hi All and Kev.
>
> In <200208101920.000042YS at server1.os2site dot com>, on 08/10/02
>    at 05:12 PM, Kev Downes <kdownes at iinet dot net dot au> said:
>
> >In <200208100903.g7A93KF16008 at mail.impulse dot net dot au>, on 08/10/2002
> >   at 07:06 PM, "Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au> said:
>
> >>Hi all,
>
> >>This has probably been covered on the list before but.... what would be
> >>a good  ATAPI  CDR burner for cdrecord/2?  I'm looking for something
> >>with BurnProof and not SCSI as I  don't have any SCSI host devices.  I
> >>have looked at the supported drives on the  CDrecord site and frankly
> >>I'm not sure if some of these burners are still available (or  available
> >>to me).  Everywhere I go I see Liteon or LG burners.  Guess what's not
> >>listed  on the site.
>
> >In theory, at least, any genuine ATAPI device should be OK.  The problem
> >is, that in practice many of those claiming to be 100% ATAPI are not
> >quite.  I have used Diamond Data (Mitsubishi) in the past, and currently
> >have installed a Sony CRX-175E.  Neither have given compatibility
> >problems, though the Diamond Data drive died at 12mths and 27days old -
> >just 27 days out of warranty and the distributor wouldn't even entertain
> >the idea of a warranty job.
>
> I have just been through all of that, and it sneaks up on you...that's the
> worst part. When my burner, a Matsushita CW8575 (On Chris W's list)
> finally brole down after only 2-1/2 years....not good for a Propriety
> brand , at least 10 of my previous writtten CD's are suspect. I found that
> out when bits of my re-install didn't function as they should.
>
> I've had an LG 82250 (?) reader for over a year now, so "took the chance"
> and purcheased the equiv LG Burner, c/w Burn Proof. I've downloaded the
> latest version of RSJ which takes care of Burn Proof automatically.
>
> I have tried AudioCDC  V0.52 (the latest) with CD-Record (the latest) and
> the CD Copy does not function for me yet. I haven't had time to sit down
> and figure out where I've gone wrong, but will keep you all informed if
> this helps. I also tried to burn a data CD...didn't work. I have used Paul
> Ratcliffe's Aspi Router hoping that would make a difference but not at
> this time. I will keep trying, and when I get stuck will give you all a
> yell.
>
> I'm sure all will turn out OK....it's probably just something I've missed.
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regatds
>
> NICK
>
> >Cheers
> >Kev Downes
=========================
> >Kev Downes <kdownes at iinet dot net dot au>
> >Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO!
> >We use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation.
=========================
> >"Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything;
> >and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and
> >nothing of himself."             Blaise Pascal
=========================
>

> > 

>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> nickl at arach dot net dot au
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>

>  

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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 02:45:47 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner???

Hi Nick/Ed

> I use Audio/Data CD recorder with CDRECORD/2 all the time, you DO need the correct
>ASPI driver and Danis drivers (replacing the IBM ones). Then it all works. Audio/Data

I've converted from CDRWIZ to Chris Wohlgemuth's Audio/Data-CD-Creator
v0.51 this does have a CD to CD copy function, not sure about copying boot
but its an excellent WPS based/intergrated system.

http://www.os2world dot com/cdwriting/

These are folder classes for the WPS which work as frontends
for cdrecord/2, cdrdao/2 for creating of Audio- and Data-CDs.
Just put files/folders or shadows of files/folders into the Creator-folder
and press 'write'. Full WPS aware. MP3 writing and decoding support.

Prerequsites: -Warp 3 or 4 -EMX runtime libraries 0.9d fix3
 -CDRecord/2, mkisofs, textmode grabber; optionally: cdrdao/2, z!

>CDRWIZ is supposed to be able to copy CDs but I've never been able to get CDRWIZ to
>work correctly (other have however). Be careful when downloading CDRWIZ, for some
>reason the download won't work using NS 461. I use Mozilla or Opera.

You should be able to download cdrwiz from OS/2 Site, as I've setup
Apache to recognise WPI (and RAR) files as binary downloadable
files, which is why it fails from Roccos website unless you use some
thing like WGet.

http://www.os2site dot com/sw/mmedia/cdr/index.html
Also find Chris's CDR program there as well.

>The problem you had with CD's not being usable could be the make of the CD media as
>well. I have had this problem a couple of times. I find my Ricoh CDBurner works fine
>with "cheap and cheerful" no-name CDR blanks but TDK and other expensive CD simply
>don't write correctly !

Very strange.
I have no problems writing to any of them but I like to ensure that
I will be able to read them 10 years from now at least. Emtec, and
other cheap brands have helped me create a few coasters but
TDK, Yamaha (Toa), Verbatim, and Sony have all been 100%
unless I've done something really stupid.

Cheers
Ian B Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

*\\ *\\ *\\   <- Tribbles Going Skiing
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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 05:37:45 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner???

Hi Gavin,
How about I borrow a few current ATAPI models from work & give them a
bash?

The Liteon have had excellent reviews, but I don't know if they work
with CDRECORD/2.

For CD->CD copying use CDRECORD with CD-Creator as a front-end &
Tonigy.

Tonigy, an installable file system, makes CDs appear as an ISO image on
a virtual drive letter & CDRECORD works with ISO CD images.

So mount a Tonigy drive, tell CDRECORD/2 where the ISO is & burn:- I
can burn from a quad CD-ROM to my quad CD-RW on-the-fly no worries.

O.K. its an all SCSI P133 IBM 310 Server...

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:06:55 +1100 (EDT), Gavin Miller wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>This has probably been covered on the list before but.... what would be a good  ATAPI 
>CDR burner for cdrecord/2?  I'm looking for something with BurnProof and not SCSI as I 
>don't have any SCSI host devices.  I have looked at the supported drives on the 
>CDrecord site and frankly I'm not sure if some of these burners are still available (or 
>available to me).  Everywhere I go I see Liteon or LG burners.  Guess what's not listed 
>on the site.
>
>Cheers
>G
>

> 

>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
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     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 06:53:43 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner???

Aha, obviously a recent addition. I don't have it on v 0.43 that I'm running. I have 0.52
and will install and test the function. Even 0.43 had support to create Boot CDs but
didn't have (as far as I could find) a data CD to data CD copy function.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Ian Manners wrote:

> Hi Nick/Ed
>
> > I use Audio/Data CD recorder with CDRECORD/2 all the time, you DO need the correct
> >ASPI driver and Danis drivers (replacing the IBM ones). Then it all works. Audio/Data
>
> I've converted from CDRWIZ to Chris Wohlgemuth's Audio/Data-CD-Creator
> v0.51 this does have a CD to CD copy function, not sure about copying boot
> but its an excellent WPS based/intergrated system.
>
> http://www.os2world dot com/cdwriting/
>
> These are folder classes for the WPS which work as frontends
> for cdrecord/2, cdrdao/2 for creating of Audio- and Data-CDs.
> Just put files/folders or shadows of files/folders into the Creator-folder
> and press 'write'. Full WPS aware. MP3 writing and decoding support.
>
> Prerequsites: -Warp 3 or 4 -EMX runtime libraries 0.9d fix3
>  -CDRecord/2, mkisofs, textmode grabber; optionally: cdrdao/2, z!
>
> >CDRWIZ is supposed to be able to copy CDs but I've never been able to get CDRWIZ to
> >work correctly (other have however). Be careful when downloading CDRWIZ, for some
> >reason the download won't work using NS 461. I use Mozilla or Opera.
>
> You should be able to download cdrwiz from OS/2 Site, as I've setup
> Apache to recognise WPI (and RAR) files as binary downloadable
> files, which is why it fails from Roccos website unless you use some
> thing like WGet.
>
> http://www.os2site dot com/sw/mmedia/cdr/index.html
> Also find Chris's CDR program there as well.
>
> >The problem you had with CD's not being usable could be the make of the CD media as
> >well. I have had this problem a couple of times. I find my Ricoh CDBurner works fine
> >with "cheap and cheerful" no-name CDR blanks but TDK and other expensive CD simply
> >don't write correctly !
>
> Very strange.
> I have no problems writing to any of them but I like to ensure that
> I will be able to read them 10 years from now at least. Emtec, and
> other cheap brands have helped me create a few coasters but
> TDK, Yamaha (Toa), Verbatim, and Sony have all been 100%
> unless I've done something really stupid.
>
> Cheers
> Ian B Manners
> http://www.os2site dot com/
>
> *\\ *\\ *\\   <- Tribbles Going Skiing

>  

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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:24:49
From:  Voytek Eymont <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] ot: doze tool kit ?

sorry to be asking about windoze, but, I don't know any windoze list...

is there any good windoze ml any one can suggest, for asking windoze Qs ?

and, I need to come up to speed on some windoze utes and tools, I haven't
really used windoze utilities and tools since '92 and win 3.1x days:

what tools can anyone recommend for troubleshooting/fixing/optimizing
windoze ?

preferably, something that can be run from command line with a '/do-all' and
'/log-it' switches

Norton Utes ?
System Mechanic ?

what's a good choice of virus scanner ?

what other stuff do I need for a windoze tool kit ?

(don't fret, I am only doing this for the money, and, I pretned i enjoy
it, I still use, and, will keep using OS/2, for a long time yet)

Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 
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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:58:16
From:  Voytek Eymont <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner???

** Reply to note from "Ian Manners" <deadmail> Tue, 13 Aug 2002 02:45:47 +1000 (EST)

> These are folder classes for the WPS which work as frontends 
> for cdrecord/2, cdrdao/2 for creating of Audio- and Data-CDs. 
> Just put files/folders or shadows of files/folders into the Creator-folder 
> and press 'write'. Full WPS aware. MP3 writing and decoding support.

that sounds almost as good, and, perhaps better, than the long since defunct
Unite CD Maker.

CD Maker consisted of two templates (audo, data), one burner object. that's
all, no application, just templates and burner object (and, some WPS
classes....) you peeled of a template, d'n'd files (shadows, no physical
transfer); then, d'n'd created object onto the burner object.

I'll need to try this.

Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 
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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:01:37 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner???

I bought Unite-CD some time ago and quite honestly, CDRECORD/2 with Audio-CD creator is (IMHO)
a better or at least simpler to use, product, with the added advantage that it's free.

Ed.

Voytek Eymont wrote:

> ** Reply to note from "Ian Manners" <deadmail> Tue, 13 Aug 2002 02:45:47 +1000 (EST)
>
> > These are folder classes for the WPS which work as frontends
> > for cdrecord/2, cdrdao/2 for creating of Audio- and Data-CDs.
> > Just put files/folders or shadows of files/folders into the Creator-folder
> > and press 'write'. Full WPS aware. MP3 writing and decoding support.
>
> that sounds almost as good, and, perhaps better, than the long since defunct
> Unite CD Maker.
>
> CD Maker consisted of two templates (audo, data), one burner object. that's
> all, no application, just templates and burner object (and, some WPS
> classes....) you peeled of a template, d'n'd files (shadows, no physical
> transfer); then, d'n'd created object onto the burner object.
>
> I'll need to try this.
>
> Voytek Eymont
> SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
> http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
> phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118

>  

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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:05:41 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] ot: doze tool kit ?

Depends on the "flavor" of Windoze. W2K Server has quite a good set of performance and
problem tracing tools built-in. As for Virus scanning - all the big names seem to work
together, so there's probably not a lot between them. Most people go for Symantec
(Norton) or Network Associates (McAfee). the latter has a very good monitoring and
control console, if you're running a large W2k network, it's a god send !

Cheers/2

Ed.

Voytek Eymont wrote:

> sorry to be asking about windoze, but, I don't know any windoze list...
>
> is there any good windoze ml any one can suggest, for asking windoze Qs ?
>
> and, I need to come up to speed on some windoze utes and tools, I haven't
> really used windoze utilities and tools since '92 and win 3.1x days:
>
> what tools can anyone recommend for troubleshooting/fixing/optimizing
> windoze ?
>
> preferably, something that can be run from command line with a '/do-all' and
> '/log-it' switches
>
> Norton Utes ?
> System Mechanic ?
>
> what's a good choice of virus scanner ?
>
> what other stuff do I need for a windoze tool kit ?
>
> (don't fret, I am only doing this for the money, and, I pretned i enjoy
> it, I still use, and, will keep using OS/2, for a long time yet)
>
> Voytek Eymont
> SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
> http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
> phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118

>  

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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:26:33 +1000
From:  "David Halprin" <davidlaz at net2000 dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] ot: doze tool kit ?

Yes Voytek and others
I convened a group a while back at Yahoo but to date it is under-used.
Perhaps you can fire away with your questions

winsig at yahoogroups dot com
Happy hunting
David
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
To: <os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:24 AM
Subject: [os2genau] ot: doze tool kit ?

> sorry to be asking about windoze, but, I don't know any windoze list...
>
> is there any good windoze ml any one can suggest, for asking windoze Qs ?
>
> and, I need to come up to speed on some windoze utes and tools, I haven't
> really used windoze utilities and tools since '92 and win 3.1x days:
>
> what tools can anyone recommend for troubleshooting/fixing/optimizing
> windoze ?
>
> preferably, something that can be run from command line with a '/do-all'
and
> '/log-it' switches
>
> Norton Utes ?
> System Mechanic ?
>
> what's a good choice of virus scanner ?
>
> what other stuff do I need for a windoze tool kit ?
>
>
> (don't fret, I am only doing this for the money, and, I pretned i enjoy
> it, I still use, and, will keep using OS/2, for a long time yet)
>
>
> Voytek Eymont
> SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
> http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
> phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
>  

>
>

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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:52:12 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner???

Hi All,

Thanx to all for the advice.  I've found a Sony CDR/RW ATAPI (can't remember the 
exact model number) so I may buy that.  I've downloaded the latest versions of 
CDRecord/2 and Audio/data WPS classes (as well as all the bells and whistles that 
are needed to work)  I expect the Sony is MMC-3 complient.

Cheers
G

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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:01:38 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner???

Hi Gavin

>Thanx to all for the advice.  I've found a Sony CDR/RW ATAPI (can't remember the 
>exact model number) so I may buy that.  I've downloaded the latest versions of 
>CDRecord/2 and Audio/data WPS classes (as well as all the bells and whistles that 
>are needed to work)  I expect the Sony is MMC-3 complient.

One more thing, there are two different CDRecord/2 binaries, make sure
you get the CDRecord from the same page as Audio/data WPS, I
got caught with this :-)

Cheers
Ian B Manners

If Intel chips ran any hotter, they'd have to file an EPA report.
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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:03:28 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner???

Yes I did.  Thanx Ian

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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:29:59 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] ot:  Sticker design competition.

 For those with a little artistic talent and those with a lot of good
ideas ......

 We're going to produce some stickers in praise of our favorite OS !!

They could be standard size Bumper Stickers or smaller.

There may be just one or even a series of them.

Some people are good at artistic design using computers, some are good
with mottos' let's combine the two to create a really memorable sticker
design !!

I have a few ideas on the Motto's side but before I bore you all to
death, let's see what you all think !!

  S P E A K  U P  N O W  O R   F O R   H O L D  Y O U R   P E A C E   !!

Cheers/2

Ed.

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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:32:35 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] ot:  Sticker design competition.]

 For those with a little artistic talent and those with a lot of good
ideas ......

 We're going to produce some stickers in praise of our favorite OS !!

They could be standard size Bumper Stickers or smaller.

There may be just one or even a series of them.

Some people are good at artistic design using computers, some are good
with mottos' let's combine the two to create a really memorable sticker
design !!

I have a few ideas on the Motto's side but before I bore you all to
death, let's see what you all think !!

S P E A K  U P  N O W  O R   F O R   E V E R   H O L D  Y O U R   P E A
C E   !!

Cheers/2

Ed.

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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:11:23 -0400
From:  madodel at ptdprolog dot net
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] ot:  Sticker design competition.]

Not a bumper sticker, but a couple years ago at Warpstock I made up little
case stickers with a swirly blue background and:

"My Computer
    My Choice
     Running
    OS/2Warp"

These fit right over those "designed for windoze" stickers on cases and
keyboards.

Mark

In <3D58D233.F10A06B4 at bigpond dot net dot au>, on 08/13/02 at 07:32 PM,
   Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> said:

> For those with a little artistic talent and those with a lot of good
>ideas ......

> We're going to produce some stickers in praise of our favorite OS !!

>They could be standard size Bumper Stickers or smaller.

>There may be just one or even a series of them.

>Some people are good at artistic design using computers, some are good
>with mottos' let's combine the two to create a really memorable sticker
>design !!

>I have a few ideas on the Motto's side but before I bore you all to
>death, let's see what you all think !!

>S P E A K  U P  N O W  O R   F O R   E V E R   H O L D  Y O U R   P E A C
>E   !!

>Cheers/2

>Ed.

> 

> 

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Date:  Tue, 13 Aug 2002 23:36:28 +1000
From:  "ve" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CDR Burner???

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:01:37 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>I bought Unite-CD some time ago and quite honestly, CDRECORD/2 with Audio-CD creator is (IMHO)
>a better or at least simpler to use, product, with the added advantage that it's free.

you're perhaps right, then again, Unite CD Maker was developed, and, stopped developed, maybe 5 years ago, or more

at the time, there was no other OS/2 solutions, period.

except Gear/2, which, wasn't comparable, anyhow.

in terms of user interface/ wps implementation, CD Maker wouyld be hard to better.

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