Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 413
From: Digest <deadmail>
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Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 00:01:05 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Sunday 04 August 2002
 Number  413
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Subjects for today
 
1  [os2genau] Voice speakup with Serenity : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
2  Re: [os2genau] Audio : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  [os2genau] speaking of audio??? : Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
4  Re: [os2genau] Audio : Daryl Pilkington" <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
5  Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio??? : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
6  Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio??? : Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
7  Re: [os2genau] Audio : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
8  Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio??? : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio??? : Kev Downes <kdownes at iinet dot net dot au>
10  Re: [os2genau] Audio : Graham Norton" <gn at smart-road dot com dot au>
11  Re: [os2genau] Audio : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
12  Re: [os2genau] Audio : Daryl Pilkington" <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
13  Re: [os2genau] Audio : Graham Norton" <gn at smart-road dot com dot au>

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Date:  Sun, 04 Aug 2002 09:23:05 -0400 (EDT)
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  [os2genau] Voice speakup with Serenity

Starting at 9:30am Adelaide time this morning - go to irc://irc.us.webbnet dot org/#voice to 
participate! In Warpzillam just paste the above URL

Regards,  
Paul

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Date:  Sun, 04 Aug 2002 10:00:56 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Audio

Daryl, Can the Mini-discs be simply dropped into a PC CD-Player aswell ? Rather than using USB ??

I checked out a Midi recording tool from Hobbes as a possible option for Graham, iunfortunately no good. The app was
designed for OS/2 2.1 and the driver messed up the SB-Live drivers (audio, simply continually repeated itself !

Cheers/2

Ed.

Daryl Pilkington wrote:

> Hi Graham,
>
> Is this an analog dictaphone or a digital one?
>
> If its analog, you would have to record it real-time & then convert it
> to a MP3 using LAME etc, (as already mentioned by Paul Smedley).
>
> This process would take as long as the recording, not much benefit, as
> it would tie-up the dictaphone twice, once during recording, & again
> during playback.
>
> Digital, different story, & sorry, easily done on a W2k box to get the
> data from the Olympus, probably using USB link.
> Easy to convert to a MP3 under W2k.
> Copy the file to your file server & playback on any OS/2 box using
> PM123.
>
> If it is an analog dictaphone, it would be an idea to look at the costs
> of converting all dictaphones to the latest Sony recordable MiniDisc
> machines.
> They have an USB interface, so under W2k you can easily convert
> recordings to MP3.
>
> They are near CD Quality, so they can be used for playing back music
> too:- something the dictaphones are not capable of doing.
>
> The Minidiscs with USB & built-in Mics are not cheap, but neither are
> the dictaphones...
>
> On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 13:11:09 +1100 (EDT), Graham Norton wrote:
>
> >Hello
> >
> >a colleague at work is putting pressure on me to install a Win box so that he can use the Olympus dictataphone and then
> >send the audio files to his secretary and then she can listen and type...
> >
> SNIP
> >
>
> Regards,
>
> Daryl  Pilkington
>
> //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
> O<O  AUSTRALIA
> \_/
> <O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>      IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>         email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au
>           Mob: 0425-251-300
>

>  

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Date:  Sun, 04 Aug 2002 11:31:28 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] speaking of audio???

Hi All,

Has anyone heard of a utility for OS/2 to convert WAV's or MP3's to CD audio to play in 
normal CD players?

Cheers
G

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Date:  Sun, 04 Aug 2002 11:43:38 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Audio

Hi Ed,
Unfortunately, MiniDisc is not compatable with CD.

This thread has got me thinking:- USB is usually seen as a mass-storage
device, ie HDD.
There is support for this under OS/2, so anyone who has made a useful
digital recorder that records directly as MP3s should be able to be
read under OS/2.
Useful, meaning long recording time, (>30min) & inbuilt mic.

However, Graham was looking for a usable, simple audio recorder for
OS/2, I've used the default tools in Warp 4 & they are crap :)
I too, would like to have a basic audio recorder for use under OS/2.

On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 10:00:56 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Daryl, Can the Mini-discs be simply dropped into a PC CD-Player aswell ? Rather than using USB ??
>
>I checked out a Midi recording tool from Hobbes as a possible option for Graham, iunfortunately no good. The app was
>designed for OS/2 2.1 and the driver messed up the SB-Live drivers (audio, simply continually repeated itself !
>
>
SNIP
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Date:  Sun, 04 Aug 2002 11:15:45 -0400 (EDT)
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio???

Gavin,
Do yourself a favour and download AudioCDCreator from 
http://www.os2world dot com/cdwriting/creator/creatormain.htm that's what I've used to 
convert MP3->audio CD to play in the car.

Regards,

Paul.

On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 11:31:28 +1100 (EDT), Gavin Miller wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Has anyone heard of a utility for OS/2 to convert WAV's or MP3's to CD audio to play 
in 
>normal CD players?
>
>Cheers
>G
>

> 

>

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Date:  Sun, 04 Aug 2002 12:13:34 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Gavin Miller" <drumextreme at impulse dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio???

Hi Paul,

>Do yourself a favour and download AudioCDCreator from 
>http://www.os2world dot com/cdwriting/creator/creatormain.htm that's what I've used to 
>convert MP3->audio CD to play in the car.

Consider it done :-))

Many Thanx
G

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Date:  Sun, 04 Aug 2002 17:19:50 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Audio

What about the Creative Labs OS/2 software ?  Have you looked at that ?

Ed.

Daryl Pilkington wrote:

> Hi Ed,
> Unfortunately, MiniDisc is not compatable with CD.
>
> This thread has got me thinking:- USB is usually seen as a mass-storage
> device, ie HDD.
> There is support for this under OS/2, so anyone who has made a useful
> digital recorder that records directly as MP3s should be able to be
> read under OS/2.
> Useful, meaning long recording time, (>30min) & inbuilt mic.
>
> However, Graham was looking for a usable, simple audio recorder for
> OS/2, I've used the default tools in Warp 4 & they are crap :)
> I too, would like to have a basic audio recorder for use under OS/2.
>
> On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 10:00:56 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
>
> >Daryl, Can the Mini-discs be simply dropped into a PC CD-Player aswell ? Rather than using USB ??
> >
> >I checked out a Midi recording tool from Hobbes as a possible option for Graham, iunfortunately no good. The app was
> >designed for OS/2 2.1 and the driver messed up the SB-Live drivers (audio, simply continually repeated itself !
> >
> >
> SNIP
> >
>
> Regards,
>
> Daryl  Pilkington
>
> //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
> O<O  AUSTRALIA
> \_/
> <O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>      IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>         email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au
>           Mob: 0425-251-300
>

>  

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Date:  Sun, 04 Aug 2002 17:22:37 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio???

Any CD recording software (audio) should be able to write WAVs to CD-Rs so that they are
playable in "normal" Audio CD Players.

Checkout Audio CD-Creator as a front end to CDRecord/2

As for MP3's there are DOS program that can convert MP3 to WAV. (You need WAV for "normal"
audio CDs).

Ed.

Gavin Miller wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Has anyone heard of a utility for OS/2 to convert WAV's or MP3's to CD audio to play in
> normal CD players?
>
> Cheers
> G
>

>  

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Date:  Sun, 04 Aug 2002 16:01:54 +0900
From:  Kev Downes <kdownes at iinet dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio???

In <3D4CD63D.D42533C1 at bigpond dot net dot au>, on 08/04/2002 
   at 05:22 PM, Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> said:

>Any CD recording software (audio) should be able to write WAVs to CD-Rs
>so that they are playable in "normal" Audio CD Players.

That's right.  I use RJS, and if I copy an audio CD track to hard drive
it's stored as a .WAV, and if I copy a .WAV to a CDR it's playable in my
CD deck.

cheers
Kev Downes
=========================
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Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO!  
We use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation.
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and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and
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Date:  Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:44:54 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Graham Norton" <gn at smart-road dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Audio

In reality he will dictate into an Olympus which is digital and there is a small RAM 
memory card and this plugs into a player and is the same then as a tape 
dictaphone... if there was some way to convert this to MP3 it would be great ....  I 
know that the Olympus uses its own proprietart form of Sound file compression... 
what ever that is!

On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 22:47:34 +1000 (EST), Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Hi Graham,
>
>Is this an analog dictaphone or a digital one?
>
>If its analog, you would have to record it real-time & then convert it
>to a MP3 using LAME etc, (as already mentioned by Paul Smedley).
>
>This process would take as long as the recording, not much benefit, as
>it would tie-up the dictaphone twice, once during recording, & again
>during playback.
>
>Digital, different story, & sorry, easily done on a W2k box to get the
>data from the Olympus, probably using USB link.
>Easy to convert to a MP3 under W2k.
>Copy the file to your file server & playback on any OS/2 box using
>PM123.
>
>If it is an analog dictaphone, it would be an idea to look at the costs
>of converting all dictaphones to the latest Sony recordable MiniDisc
>machines.
>They have an USB interface, so under W2k you can easily convert
>recordings to MP3.
>
>They are near CD Quality, so they can be used for playing back music
>too:- something the dictaphones are not capable of doing.
>
>The Minidiscs with USB & built-in Mics are not cheap, but neither are
>the dictaphones...
>
>
>On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 13:11:09 +1100 (EDT), Graham Norton wrote:
>
>>Hello
>>
>>a colleague at work is putting pressure on me to install a Win box so that he can 
use the Olympus dictataphone and then 
>>send the audio files to his secretary and then she can listen and type...
>>
>SNIP
>>
>
>Regards,
>
>Daryl  Pilkington 
>
>//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
>O<O  AUSTRALIA
>\_/
><O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>     IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>        email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au
>          Mob: 0425-251-300
>

> 

>

Graham Norton FRACP
Neurologist

Smart Road Specialist Centre
Modbury SA 5092

61 8 8265 4022  (Voice)
61 8 8386 1795 (Fax)
gn at smart-road dot com dot au

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Date:  Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:03:23 -0400 (EDT)
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Audio

Graham,
Do you have a website with some specs for the Olympus dictaphone?

Regards,

Paul.

On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:44:54 +1100 (EDT), Graham Norton wrote:

>In reality he will dictate into an Olympus which is digital and there is a small RAM 
>memory card and this plugs into a player and is the same then as a tape 
>dictaphone... if there was some way to convert this to MP3 it would be great ....  I 
>know that the Olympus uses its own proprietart form of Sound file compression... 
>what ever that is!
>
>
>On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 22:47:34 +1000 (EST), Daryl Pilkington wrote:
>
>>Hi Graham,
>>
>>Is this an analog dictaphone or a digital one?
>>
>>If its analog, you would have to record it real-time & then convert it
>>to a MP3 using LAME etc, (as already mentioned by Paul Smedley).
>>
>>This process would take as long as the recording, not much benefit, as
>>it would tie-up the dictaphone twice, once during recording, & again
>>during playback.
>>
>>Digital, different story, & sorry, easily done on a W2k box to get the
>>data from the Olympus, probably using USB link.
>>Easy to convert to a MP3 under W2k.
>>Copy the file to your file server & playback on any OS/2 box using
>>PM123.
>>
>>If it is an analog dictaphone, it would be an idea to look at the costs
>>of converting all dictaphones to the latest Sony recordable MiniDisc
>>machines.
>>They have an USB interface, so under W2k you can easily convert
>>recordings to MP3.
>>
>>They are near CD Quality, so they can be used for playing back music
>>too:- something the dictaphones are not capable of doing.
>>
>>The Minidiscs with USB & built-in Mics are not cheap, but neither are
>>the dictaphones...
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 13:11:09 +1100 (EDT), Graham Norton wrote:
>>
>>>Hello
>>>
>>>a colleague at work is putting pressure on me to install a Win box so that he can 
>use the Olympus dictataphone and then 
>>>send the audio files to his secretary and then she can listen and type...
>>>
>>SNIP
>>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Daryl  Pilkington 
>>
>>//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
>>O<O  AUSTRALIA
>>\_/
>><O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>>     IBM Certified Systems Expert
>>
>>        email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au
>>          Mob: 0425-251-300
>>

>> 

>>
>
>Graham Norton FRACP
>Neurologist
>
>Smart Road Specialist Centre
>Modbury SA 5092
>
>61 8 8265 4022  (Voice)
>61 8 8386 1795 (Fax)
>gn at smart-road dot com dot au
>

> 

>

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Date:  Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:36:24 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232 at home.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Audio

Hi Graham,
What model Olympus is he using?

On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:44:54 +1100 (EDT), Graham Norton wrote:

>In reality he will dictate into an Olympus which is digital and there is a small RAM 
>memory card and this plugs into a player and is the same then as a tape 
>dictaphone... if there was some way to convert this to MP3 it would be great ....  I 
>know that the Olympus uses its own proprietart form of Sound file compression... 
>what ever that is!
>
SNIP
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Date:  Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:07:21 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Graham Norton" <gn at smart-road dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Audio

Its an Olympus DS 3000   I think

http://ds3000.olympus dot com/

On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:03:23 -0400 (EDT), Paul Smedley wrote:

>Graham,
>Do you have a website with some specs for the Olympus dictaphone?
>
>Regards,
>
>Paul.
>
>On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:44:54 +1100 (EDT), Graham Norton wrote:
>
>>In reality he will dictate into an Olympus which is digital and there is a small RAM 
>>memory card and this plugs into a player and is the same then as a tape 
>>dictaphone... if there was some way to convert this to MP3 it would be great ....  I 
>>know that the Olympus uses its own proprietart form of Sound file compression... 
>>what ever that is!
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 22:47:34 +1000 (EST), Daryl Pilkington wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Graham,
>>>
>>>Is this an analog dictaphone or a digital one?
>>>
>>>If its analog, you would have to record it real-time & then convert it
>>>to a MP3 using LAME etc, (as already mentioned by Paul Smedley).
>>>
>>>This process would take as long as the recording, not much benefit, as
>>>it would tie-up the dictaphone twice, once during recording, & again
>>>during playback.
>>>
>>>Digital, different story, & sorry, easily done on a W2k box to get the
>>>data from the Olympus, probably using USB link.
>>>Easy to convert to a MP3 under W2k.
>>>Copy the file to your file server & playback on any OS/2 box using
>>>PM123.
>>>
>>>If it is an analog dictaphone, it would be an idea to look at the costs
>>>of converting all dictaphones to the latest Sony recordable MiniDisc
>>>machines.
>>>They have an USB interface, so under W2k you can easily convert
>>>recordings to MP3.
>>>
>>>They are near CD Quality, so they can be used for playing back music
>>>too:- something the dictaphones are not capable of doing.
>>>
>>>The Minidiscs with USB & built-in Mics are not cheap, but neither are
>>>the dictaphones...
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 13:11:09 +1100 (EDT), Graham Norton wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello
>>>>
>>>>a colleague at work is putting pressure on me to install a Win box so that he 
can 
>>use the Olympus dictataphone and then 
>>>>send the audio files to his secretary and then she can listen and type...
>>>>
>>>SNIP
>>>>
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Daryl  Pilkington 
>>>
>>>//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
>>>O<O  AUSTRALIA
>>>\_/
>>><O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>>>     IBM Certified Systems Expert
>>>
>>>        email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au
>>>          Mob: 0425-251-300
>>>

>>> 

>>>
>>
>>Graham Norton FRACP
>>Neurologist
>>
>>Smart Road Specialist Centre
>>Modbury SA 5092
>>
>>61 8 8265 4022  (Voice)
>>61 8 8386 1795 (Fax)
>>gn at smart-road dot com dot au
>>

>> 

>>
>
>

> 

>

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