Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 362
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" <deadmail>
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 00:00:09 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Monday 03 June 2002
 Number  362
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ? : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
2  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ? : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ? : Paul Smedley" <paulatsmedley.info>
4  [os2genau] Virtual PC for OS/2 - needs network? : Nathan Stewart <nmcstewatattglobal dot net>
5  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ? : Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
6  Re: [os2genau] OS2 matters : Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
7  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ? : Kev Downes <kdownesatiinet dot net dot au>
8  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ? : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re: [os2genau] Virtual PC for OS/2 - needs network? : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
10  Re: [os2genau] Broadband providers : Gavin Miller" <drumextremeatimpulse dot net dot au>
11  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ? : Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
12  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ? : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
13  Re: [os2genau] Broadband providers : David Forrester" <davidforatterrigal dot net dot au>

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Date:  Mon, 03 Jun 2002 07:12:28 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ?

I guess you need to define what is the same as well as what is different
between your systems before you can create a "change script" for network
settings. If a lot of things are different, it's probably as easy to run
MPTS, TCPCFG2 and \IBMLAN\INSTALL\LANINST as create a program to do it !

As for SciTech Display Doctor, if it finds video chipset that it doesn't
support, it loads the IBM Gradd drivers. It shouldn't trap !  Are you sure
the hardware itself is OK ? Can you try it with a different card ?

Cheers/2

ED.

voytek wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 23:35:05 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> >It is a better way for multiple machines - AND IT WORKS ! at least I've had
> >it work without problems when I switched from an SiS Onboard video to an S2
> >Trio 64v+ card.
> >
> >I don't have a script for Netbios / TCP but the files affected are
> >\IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI \IBMCOM\PROTOCOL.INI \MPTN\ETC\TCPOS2.INI (that's the
> >tricky one as its not a flat file but rather a real INI file) RFCNAMES.LST
> >and RESOLV2. I guess these could all be "adjusted" using a pretty simple
> >REXX program.
> 
> yes, that's what I was after, a pretty simple REXX program (that I don't have...)
> 
> I generally change startup/config/ibmcom/ibmlan/setup.cmd, don't recall having to change the other files
> 
> back to Scitech:
> 
> I tried to install W4CP2 wirh Scitech/se on a Compaq with ATI 3DRagePro video;
> on rebbot, it trapps with some sort of 'sdd' trap: is that trying to tell me it's an unsupported video ?
> 

>  

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Date:  Mon, 03 Jun 2002 07:57:14 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ?

The list of supported video chipsets for the se version is on DDPAK online,
I think and the list of all chipsets supported for the full version will be
on the Scitech website.

Further to this, you might want to download and try the demo of the full
version of SDD from the SCITECH site (by the way it's not scitech dot com - so
search for it via Yahoo or another search engine).

Cheers/2
Ed.

Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> I guess you need to define what is the same as well as what is different
> between your systems before you can create a "change script" for network
> settings. If a lot of things are different, it's probably as easy to run
> MPTS, TCPCFG2 and \IBMLAN\INSTALL\LANINST as create a program to do it !
> 
> As for SciTech Display Doctor, if it finds video chipset that it doesn't
> support, it loads the IBM Gradd drivers. It shouldn't trap !  Are you sure
> the hardware itself is OK ? Can you try it with a different card ?
> 
> Cheers/2
> 
> ED.
> 
> voytek wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 23:35:05 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> >
> > >It is a better way for multiple machines - AND IT WORKS ! at least I've had
> > >it work without problems when I switched from an SiS Onboard video to an S2
> > >Trio 64v+ card.
> > >
> > >I don't have a script for Netbios / TCP but the files affected are
> > >\IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI \IBMCOM\PROTOCOL.INI \MPTN\ETC\TCPOS2.INI (that's the
> > >tricky one as its not a flat file but rather a real INI file) RFCNAMES.LST
> > >and RESOLV2. I guess these could all be "adjusted" using a pretty simple
> > >REXX program.
> >
> > yes, that's what I was after, a pretty simple REXX program (that I don't have...)
> >
> > I generally change startup/config/ibmcom/ibmlan/setup.cmd, don't recall having to change the other files
> >
> > back to Scitech:
> >
> > I tried to install W4CP2 wirh Scitech/se on a Compaq with ATI 3DRagePro video;
> > on rebbot, it trapps with some sort of 'sdd' trap: is that trying to tell me it's an unsupported video ?
> >
> 
> >  
> 

>  

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Date:  Mon, 03 Jun 2002 07:30:51 +1100
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paulatsmedley.info>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ?

Schitech software = www.scitechsoft dot com

On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 07:57:14 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>The list of supported video chipsets for the se version is on DDPAK online,
>I think and the list of all chipsets supported for the full version will be
>on the Scitech website.

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Date:  Mon, 03 Jun 2002 08:46:46 +1100
From:  Nathan Stewart <nmcstewatattglobal dot net>
Subject:  [os2genau] Virtual PC for OS/2 - needs network?

Has anyone else experienced the following?

Virtual PC for OS/2 will not start correctly unless a network is present
(even a dialup connection). If the connection is not there it will hang
with an "Unhandled Exception Error".

The machine is running with eComStation.

I'm interested to hear you thoughts.

Regards,

Nathan Stewart.

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Date:  Mon, 3 Jun 2002 11:20:27
From:  Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ?

** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au> Mon, 03 Jun 2002 07:12:28 +1000

> As for SciTech Display Doctor, if it finds video chipset that it doesn't 
> support, it loads the IBM Gradd drivers. It shouldn't trap !  Are you sure 
> the hardware itself is OK ? Can you try it with a different card ?

if I install what the installer pre-selects, ATI, it runs fine

Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 
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Date:  Mon, 3 Jun 2002 11:37:41
From:  Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] OS2 matters

** Reply to note from "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au> Sat, 01 Jun 2002 08:24:39 +1100 (EDT)

Graham

> 1	at present the staff are all using a Networked version of  Describe  (legacy 
> software I suspect you may call that - buts its a positive  

> 2	we fax  letters if needed using PMFax for LAN and again we have a shared fax 
> phone book and every user also has access to their own

did you know you can include fax address inside an D doc, and, have a macro
pass it to PMfax, so, you do not even need to 'use' PMF when sending ?

> a  fax cant be sent out as an email attachment!!!  Now this may be 
> occasionally useful but it does so by sending the fax as a bit mapped image  
> so that the file size is rather large 

you average fax machine send *same* amount of data over 9600 or 14,400
modem your average dial up modem is 28,8. 33,6 or 56

so, size is not an issue

Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 
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Date:  Mon, 03 Jun 2002 09:53:35 +0900
From:  Kev Downes <kdownesatiinet dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ?

In <200206012326.g51NQjE08094atmanuka.terrigal dot net dot au>, on 06/02/2002 
   at 09:27 AM, "David Forrester" <davidforatterrigal dot net dot au> said:

>Simple:

>1) Shutdown
>2) Pull old card out
>3) Put new card in
>4) Boot
>5) Umm, nothing else.  Well, maybe change the resolution, etc.

>One of the selling points of SDD is that it detects the card
>automatically at boot time.  I've never done it, but, I have seen
>reports that it works.

I've done it several times, and it works just like you say - white man's
magic!!  I didn't even have to change resolution and refresh.  It all
just booted up without even a flicker of hesitation.

Cheers
Kev
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Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO!  
We use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation.
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Date:  Mon, 03 Jun 2002 17:11:09 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ?

Then you probably need to report this as a problem. I be tempted to try the
"full" version first though, then you'd know if it's an se only problem. If
it happens on the demo full version as well, then you'll need to contact
SciTech. I presume you are using version 10 ??

Cheers/2

Ed.

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> 
> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au> Mon, 03 Jun 2002 07:12:28 +1000
> 
> > As for SciTech Display Doctor, if it finds video chipset that it doesn't
> > support, it loads the IBM Gradd drivers. It shouldn't trap !  Are you sure
> > the hardware itself is OK ? Can you try it with a different card ?
> 
> if I install what the installer pre-selects, ATI, it runs fine
> 
> Voytek Eymont
> SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
> http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
> phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118

>  

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Date:  Mon, 03 Jun 2002 17:14:06 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Virtual PC for OS/2 - needs network?

go checkout the forums at www.innotek.de - I think I've seen this posted
there. By the way, you'll need to be at least at FP15 (or MCP) - there were
multiple problems for VPC/2 with FP14 and earlier OS levels. Not sure what
level this equates to under eCs.

You might also check that you have localhost defined as 127.0.0.1.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Nathan Stewart wrote:
> 
> Has anyone else experienced the following?
> 
> Virtual PC for OS/2 will not start correctly unless a network is present
> (even a dialup connection). If the connection is not there it will hang
> with an "Unhandled Exception Error".
> 
> The machine is running with eComStation.
> 
> I'm interested to hear you thoughts.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Nathan Stewart.
> 

>  

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Date:  Mon, 03 Jun 2002 17:21:44 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Gavin Miller" <drumextremeatimpulse dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Broadband providers

Foxtel doen't opperate where I am.  The only ADSL providers I have access to are 
Telstra and Austar.

Anyone had deallings with Austar?  As I already have Austar sat/TV, I though maybe 
they'd be the way to go.

Cheers
G

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Date:  Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:59:16
From:  Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ?

** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au> Mon, 03 Jun 2002 17:11:09 +1000

> Then you probably need to report this as a problem. I be tempted to try the 
> "full" version first though, then you'd know if it's an se only problem. If 
> it happens on the demo full version as well, then you'll need to contact 
> SciTech. I presume you are using version 10 ??

I do not have a full version. is there a timeout eval, do you know ?

not sure, whatever version came with CP2, no can check now, decided to
install on a new 9GB SCSI HD, and, install format /long right now

say, you would know how to determine SCSI HD geometry ?

BTW, i've run SysBench against S3 driver vs Scitech:
marginally faster in graphics test, 3x faster in DIVE test;
and, Scitech will refresh at85 vs 80 for S3 driver

Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 
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Date:  Mon, 03 Jun 2002 20:41:54 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] SCitech video driver, changing video card, how ?

Yes I believe there's a time-out test version of SDD.

I think V9, not 10 came with CP2, You should be able to download V10 from
DDPak Online using your SWChoice ID.

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> I do not have a full version. is there a timeout eval, do you know ?
> 
> not sure, whatever version came with CP2, no can check now, decided to
> install on a new 9GB SCSI HD, and, install format /long right now
>
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Date:  Mon, 03 Jun 2002 22:18:11 +1000 (EST)
From:  "David Forrester" <davidforatterrigal dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Broadband providers

On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 17:21:44 +1100 (EDT), Gavin Miller wrote:

>Foxtel doen't opperate where I am.  The only ADSL providers I have access to are 
>Telstra and Austar.

Where are you?  The ADSL providers seem to be trying to offer their
services anywhere that Telstra does.  Paul mentioned Internode which is
based in Adelaide.  I applied for access through them last week, and
I'm in Gosford in NSW.  They are apparently getting access into
Queensland this week.  

>
>Anyone had deallings with Austar?  As I already have Austar sat/TV, I though maybe 
>they'd be the way to go.

Have a look at www.whirlpool dot net dot au.  They call themselves "the
Australian broadband user community".  There are forums about all the
broadband access types in Australia.  They have ones for satellite
there, but, I've never looked at them.  It's based on the feedback
there that I've chosen Internode.  I'm just hoping that there's nothing
about my phone line that will stop me getting ADSL at all.

--
David Forrester
davidforatterrigal dot net dot au
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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