Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 338
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Monday 06 May 2002
 Number  338
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Subjects for today
 
1  [os2genau] Printing to an OS/2 box running lpd : Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
2  [os2genau] Odin : Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
3  Re: [os2genau] Printing to an OS/2 box running lpd : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
4  Re: [os2genau] Odin : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
5  Re: [os2genau] Odin : Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
6  Re: [os2genau] Odin : Paul Smedley" <psmedle1atbigpond dot net dot au>
7  Re: [os2genau] Odin : Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
8  Re: [os2genau] Working OS/2 Scroll mouse : Michael Barrow <mbatnetstra dot com dot au>
9  Re: [os2genau] Working OS/2 Scroll mouse : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
10  Re: [os2genau] Odin : Paul Smedley" <psmedle1atbigpond dot net dot au>
11  Re: [os2genau] Printing to an OS/2 box running lpd : Steve Edmonds <engineeringatprecisiontransducers dot com>
12  Re: [os2genau] Odin : Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
13  Re: [os2genau] MIME association PMmail/2??? : John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>

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Date:  Mon, 06 May 2002 16:27:14 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject:  [os2genau] Printing to an OS/2 box running lpd

Hi,
How do you print to a print queue on an OS/2 box running LPD?
I do not wish the use PEER SMB printing.

I've got a Win98 box with Axis port driver which allows me to print via
lpr.

I've setup PMPDF on the OS/2 box with queue name PDF

Using port redirection, I have defined LPT9->PDF
A postscript printer is setup in WIN-OS/2.
I can create PDF documents from WIN-OS/2.

So, what I need to know is:
How do I define the port in Windoze?

I've tried:
LPT9at192.168.1.249
PDFat192.168.1.249

Neither works.

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Date:  Mon, 06 May 2002 18:01:34 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] Odin

I have used ODIN successfully and recently did a clean install on my Thinkpad 
using CP2. and then also did a 'clean' install of the latest Odin .wpi using WarpIn 
(latest release) and it seemed to install OK but when I reboot, a message says 

"WIN32K - ODIN 32 support driver 
failed to find symbolfile...

and then I can run any of the installed windows programmes... 

any suggestions?

Graham Norton
Neurologist

"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

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Date:  Mon, 06 May 2002 19:44:09 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Printing to an OS/2 box running lpd

OK here goes ....

Start
Settings
Printers
Add Printer wizard
next
local printer  (important NOT network printer!)
next
select the correct printer driver
next
now select the LPR Port from the list (* see below if you dont have one)
Configure the port by putting the printserver's IP address in the field that
says hostname or IP address and put the Queue name in the second field
(should say queue name or printer name or something).  
next
printer name
default - yes or no
next
print test page (or not)
finish

Now I suspect the point you don't have is the LPR port appearing in the list
of available ports. With windows NT / 2000 / XP and LPR printer port is
available to be installed. with Windows 95 (and it seems 98) you have to add
it yourself from a third party or shareware source. If you can't find one on
the web, I have a VERY old one on diskette somewhere that I downloaded and
installed for a customer when I was back in Adelaide, so probably 4 or 5
years
ago, so you're probably better off looking on the Web for a more recent one
!
I searched the web and found several commercial products, I found also a
reference to several win98 tools at
http://www.longshine.de/support/frinhalt.htm

You could try LCS-PS1+ from here.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> How do you print to a print queue on an OS/2 box running LPD?
> I do not wish the use PEER SMB printing.
> 
> I've got a Win98 box with Axis port driver which allows me to print via
> lpr.
> 
> I've setup PMPDF on the OS/2 box with queue name PDF
> 
> Using port redirection, I have defined LPT9->PDF
> A postscript printer is setup in WIN-OS/2.
> I can create PDF documents from WIN-OS/2.
> 
> So, what I need to know is:
> How do I define the port in Windoze?
> 
> I've tried:
> LPT9at192.168.1.249
> PDFat192.168.1.249
> 
> Neither works.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Daryl  Pilkington
> 
> //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
> O<O  AUSTRALIA
> \_/
> <O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>      IBM Certified Systems Expert
> 
>         email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>           Mob: 0425-251-300
> 

>  

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Date:  Mon, 06 May 2002 19:46:29 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Odin

Did you take a weekly build or a daily build of ODIN ??

The daily build often need to be installed over an existing installation
before it'll work. The weekly builds are usually complete and you best bet.

Have you tried the copy on the Cd I sent you ?

Cheers/2

Ed. 

Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> 
> I have used ODIN successfully and recently did a clean install on my Thinkpad
> using CP2. and then also did a 'clean' install of the latest Odin .wpi using WarpIn
> (latest release) and it seemed to install OK but when I reboot, a message says
> 
> "WIN32K - ODIN 32 support driver
> failed to find symbolfile...
> 
> and then I can run any of the installed windows programmes...
> 
> any suggestions?
> 
> Graham Norton
> Neurologist
> 
> "when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
> when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"
> 

>  

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Date:  Mon, 06 May 2002 19:52:50 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Odin

Thanks Ed

no I always use the weekly builds.

On Mon, 06 May 2002 19:46:29 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Did you take a weekly build or a daily build of ODIN ??
>
>The daily build often need to be installed over an existing installation
>before it'll work. The weekly builds are usually complete and you best bet.
>
>Have you tried the copy on the Cd I sent you ?
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed. 
>
>Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
>> 
>> I have used ODIN successfully and recently did a clean install on my Thinkpad
>> using CP2. and then also did a 'clean' install of the latest Odin .wpi using WarpIn
>> (latest release) and it seemed to install OK but when I reboot, a message says
>> 
>> "WIN32K - ODIN 32 support driver
>> failed to find symbolfile...
>> 
>> and then I can run any of the installed windows programmes...
>> 
>> any suggestions?
>> 
>> Graham Norton
>> Neurologist
>> 
>> "when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
>> when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"
>> 
>
>>  
>

> 

>

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Date:  Mon, 06 May 2002 20:14:01 -0400
From:  "Paul Smedley" <psmedle1atbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Odin

Graham,
Obviously your install of CP2 didn't install the Symbol files for the Kernel - win32k.sys 
relies on the symbol files to know where to "hook in" to the kernel in order to be able to 
load win32 .exe files as if they were native .exe files.

Easiest way to fix this is to install the latest available kernel from IBM - I can 
recommend the latest Testcase kernel - works great here!

Regards,

Paul.

On Mon, 06 May 2002 18:01:34 +1100, Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:

>I have used ODIN successfully and recently did a clean install on my Thinkpad 
>using CP2. and then also did a 'clean' install of the latest Odin .wpi using WarpIn 
>(latest release) and it seemed to install OK but when I reboot, a message says 
>
>"WIN32K - ODIN 32 support driver 
>failed to find symbolfile...
>
>and then I can run any of the installed windows programmes... 

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Date:  Mon, 06 May 2002 20:19:31 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Odin

OK Paul

I am always 'scared' to fiddle with my kernal files!  Before I used WarpUP Cd which 
was painless and through the IBM Web Browser interface....!!  so can you point me 
to the kernal files and perhaps suggest how I install them? I do have a maintenance 
partition so that I can install that way!

On Mon, 06 May 2002 20:14:01 -0400, Paul Smedley wrote:

>Graham,
>Obviously your install of CP2 didn't install the Symbol files for the Kernel - 
win32k.sys 
>relies on the symbol files to know where to "hook in" to the kernel in order to be 
able to 
>load win32 .exe files as if they were native .exe files.
>
>Easiest way to fix this is to install the latest available kernel from IBM - I can 
>recommend the latest Testcase kernel - works great here!
>
>Regards,
>
>Paul.
>
>On Mon, 06 May 2002 18:01:34 +1100, Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist 
wrote:
>
>>I have used ODIN successfully and recently did a clean install on my Thinkpad 
>>using CP2. and then also did a 'clean' install of the latest Odin .wpi using WarpIn 
>>(latest release) and it seemed to install OK but when I reboot, a message says 
>>
>>"WIN32K - ODIN 32 support driver 
>>failed to find symbolfile...
>>
>>and then I can run any of the installed windows programmes... 
>
>

> 

>

Graham Norton
Neurologist

"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

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Date:  Mon, 6 May 2002 21:06:38 -0400
From:  Michael Barrow <mbatnetstra dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Working OS/2 Scroll mouse

** Reply to message from Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au> on Sun, 05 May
2002 20:53:39 +1000

Ed,
A couple of months ago I also got one working by using the amouse driver. Mine
is a logitech optical. (It's nice not to have to clean my ball anymore)

http://www.os2site dot com/sw/drivers/mouse/amou20ub.zip

Regards,
Michael
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Date:  Mon, 06 May 2002 21:14:29 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Working OS/2 Scroll mouse

Yes I also have the a-mouse and x-mouse drivers, but I reckoned if the mouse
would work with the IBM drivers, it'd work with the others. My mouse by the
way, has only two buttons and the wheel. So many of the new models have 3 or
4 or even 5 buttons and I think this is where a-mouse or x-mouse drivers are
essential.

Cheers/2

Ed. 

Michael Barrow wrote:
> 
> ** Reply to message from Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au> on Sun, 05 May
> 2002 20:53:39 +1000
> 
> Ed,
> A couple of months ago I also got one working by using the amouse driver. Mine
> is a logitech optical. (It's nice not to have to clean my ball anymore)
> 
> http://www.os2site dot com/sw/drivers/mouse/amou20ub.zip
> 
> Regards,
> Michael

>  

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Date:  Mon, 06 May 2002 21:03:24 -0400
From:  "Paul Smedley" <psmedle1atbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Odin

Graham,
Latest OS/2 Testcase kernel (which works great here) is at 
http://www.ecomstation dot org/testcase/w40426.zip

Installation instructions (very rough) are:

Go to command prompt

Change to boot drive

attrib -r -s -h os2krnl

attrib -r -s -h os2ldr

unzip x:\w40426.zip (where x:\ is the path where you saved the file)

Answer 'Yes' to any prompt to overwrite files.

Hope this helps,

Paul.

On Mon, 06 May 2002 20:19:31 +1100, Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:

>OK Paul
>
>I am always 'scared' to fiddle with my kernal files!  Before I used WarpUP Cd which 
>was painless and through the IBM Web Browser interface....!!  so can you point me 
>to the kernal files and perhaps suggest how I install them? I do have a maintenance 
>partition so that I can install that way!
>
>
>On Mon, 06 May 2002 20:14:01 -0400, Paul Smedley wrote:
>
>>Graham,
>>Obviously your install of CP2 didn't install the Symbol files for the Kernel - 
>win32k.sys 
>>relies on the symbol files to know where to "hook in" to the kernel in order to be 
>able to 
>>load win32 .exe files as if they were native .exe files.
>>
>>Easiest way to fix this is to install the latest available kernel from IBM - I can 
>>recommend the latest Testcase kernel - works great here!
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Paul.
>>
>>On Mon, 06 May 2002 18:01:34 +1100, Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist 
>wrote:
>>
>>>I have used ODIN successfully and recently did a clean install on my Thinkpad 
>>>using CP2. and then also did a 'clean' install of the latest Odin .wpi using WarpIn 
>>>(latest release) and it seemed to install OK but when I reboot, a message says 
>>>
>>>"WIN32K - ODIN 32 support driver 
>>>failed to find symbolfile...
>>>
>>>and then I can run any of the installed windows programmes... 
>>
>>

>> 

>>
>
>Graham Norton
>Neurologist
>
>"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
>when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"
>
>

> 

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Date:  Tue, 7 May 2002 00:03:32 +1200
From:  Steve Edmonds <engineeringatprecisiontransducers dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Printing to an OS/2 box running lpd

Hi,
I think Daryl may have wanted it the other way round.
I use the Axis lpr port driver for win boxes, seems good.
To print to the os/2 box I assume you need to start LPD in tcpip settings.
Then in the axis port you define in win put the IP address of the OS/2 box 
and the print queue. could be something like printerat192.168.1.2. I only 
print from OS/2 and not to it with lpq so this is a bit of a guess.

steve

On Monday 06 May 2002 21:44, you wrote:
> OK here goes ....
>
> Start
> Settings
> Printers
> Add Printer wizard
> next
> local printer  (important NOT network printer!)
> next
> select the correct printer driver
> next
> now select the LPR Port from the list (* see below if you dont have one)
> Configure the port by putting the printserver's IP address in the field
> that says hostname or IP address and put the Queue name in the second field
> (should say queue name or printer name or something).
> next
> printer name
> default - yes or no
> next
> print test page (or not)
> finish
>
> Now I suspect the point you don't have is the LPR port appearing in the
> list of available ports. With windows NT / 2000 / XP and LPR printer port
> is available to be installed. with Windows 95 (and it seems 98) you have to
> add it yourself from a third party or shareware source. If you can't find
> one on the web, I have a VERY old one on diskette somewhere that I
> downloaded and installed for a customer when I was back in Adelaide, so
> probably 4 or 5 years
> ago, so you're probably better off looking on the Web for a more recent one
> !
> I searched the web and found several commercial products, I found also a
> reference to several win98 tools at
> http://www.longshine.de/support/frinhalt.htm
>
> You could try LCS-PS1+ from here.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
>
> Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> > Hi,
> > How do you print to a print queue on an OS/2 box running LPD?
> > I do not wish the use PEER SMB printing.
> >
> > I've got a Win98 box with Axis port driver which allows me to print via
> > lpr.
> >
> > I've setup PMPDF on the OS/2 box with queue name PDF
> >
> > Using port redirection, I have defined LPT9->PDF
> > A postscript printer is setup in WIN-OS/2.
> > I can create PDF documents from WIN-OS/2.
> >
> > So, what I need to know is:
> > How do I define the port in Windoze?
> >
> > I've tried:
> > LPT9at192.168.1.249
> > PDFat192.168.1.249
> >
> > Neither works.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Daryl  Pilkington
> >
> > //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
> > O<O  AUSTRALIA
> > \_/
> > <O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
> >      IBM Certified Systems Expert
> >
> >         email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
> >           Mob: 0425-251-300
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >--------- 
> 
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>------- 

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Date:  Mon, 06 May 2002 22:37:15 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Odin

HI Paul

yes found it and installed it without hiccups and the ODIN error message on boot 
has disappeared!   do you drink champagne??  thanks!!

On Mon, 06 May 2002 21:03:24 -0400, Paul Smedley wrote:

>Graham,
>Latest OS/2 Testcase kernel (which works great here) is at 
>http://www.ecomstation dot org/testcase/w40426.zip
>
>Installation instructions (very rough) are:
>
>Go to command prompt
>
>Change to boot drive
>
>attrib -r -s -h os2krnl
>
>attrib -r -s -h os2ldr
>
>unzip x:\w40426.zip (where x:\ is the path where you saved the file)
>
>Answer 'Yes' to any prompt to overwrite files.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Paul.
>
>On Mon, 06 May 2002 20:19:31 +1100, Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist 
wrote:
>
>>OK Paul
>>
>>I am always 'scared' to fiddle with my kernal files!  Before I used WarpUP Cd 
which 
>>was painless and through the IBM Web Browser interface....!!  so can you point 
me 
>>to the kernal files and perhaps suggest how I install them? I do have a 
maintenance 
>>partition so that I can install that way!
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 06 May 2002 20:14:01 -0400, Paul Smedley wrote:
>>
>>>Graham,
>>>Obviously your install of CP2 didn't install the Symbol files for the Kernel - 
>>win32k.sys 
>>>relies on the symbol files to know where to "hook in" to the kernel in order to be 
>>able to 
>>>load win32 .exe files as if they were native .exe files.
>>>
>>>Easiest way to fix this is to install the latest available kernel from IBM - I can 
>>>recommend the latest Testcase kernel - works great here!
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Paul.
>>>
>>>On Mon, 06 May 2002 18:01:34 +1100, Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist 
>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have used ODIN successfully and recently did a clean install on my 
Thinkpad 
>>>>using CP2. and then also did a 'clean' install of the latest Odin .wpi using 
WarpIn 
>>>>(latest release) and it seemed to install OK but when I reboot, a message says 
>>>>
>>>>"WIN32K - ODIN 32 support driver 
>>>>failed to find symbolfile...
>>>>
>>>>and then I can run any of the installed windows programmes... 
>>>
>>>

>>> 

>>>
>>
>>Graham Norton
>>Neurologist
>>
>>"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
>>when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"
>>
>>

>> 

>
>

> 

>

Graham Norton
Neurologist

"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

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Date:  Mon, 06 May 2002 22:56:43 +1000 (EST)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] MIME association PMmail/2???

On Sat, 04 May 2002 09:27:02 +0200, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

Hi all

>
>
>Ed Durrant schreef:
>
>> You might want to consider downloading the Java version of Acrobat Reader.
>
>You need a  batchfile "AdobeAcrobatViewer.cmd" to have it started, the batchfile must be
>exactly in this directory:
>
>\Java11\AdobeAcrobatViewer\
>
>and the other files in the appropriate directories too and then it might work. Works here,
>but it's slow as hell.
>
>Why not just use Russel Lang's GSview? The install is a bit complicated too, but at least in
>the end it works properly (and much quicker than any Acrobatic counterpart).

I endorse this wholeheartedly with one proviso - Russell has done wonders
to the install and it is no pain at all. There has just been a new release
of Ghostscript and GSView (see a recent VoiceNews).

Then I would add that you can disable the plug-in from your browser,
install GSView in its place and be free of the Win-OS/2 stub which I
believe lurks under teh covers of the so-called OS/2 Acrobat reader. 

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
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