Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 328
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" <deadmail>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 00:00:11 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Monday 22 April 2002
 Number  328
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Subjects for today
 
1  [os2genau] Server news : Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com>
2  [os2genau] REMINDER - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting : Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com>
3  [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news) : Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
4  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
5  Re: [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news) : Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com>
6  Re: [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news) : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
7  Re: [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news) : Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
8  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Busine : Trevor Clarke <TClarkeatslatergordon dot com dot au>
10  Re: [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news) : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
11  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
12  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
13  Re: [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news) : John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
14  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
15  Re: [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news) : Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
16  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
17  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business : voytek" <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
18  Re: [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news) : voytek" <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
19  [os2genau] Voice Type State of the Art? : John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
20  Re: [os2genau] Voice Type State of the Art? : voytek" <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
21  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business : madodelatptdprolog dot net

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 04:47:18 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com>
Subject:  [os2genau] Server news

Hi everyone

The time came to finally upgrade the OS/2 Site server, an old
IBM VP100 486DX4/100, with SCSI card/drives and 128Mb RAM.

It's been running
  http://www.os2site dot com/
  http://www./
  http://www.ecs-site dot com/

Software :-
  OS/2 Warp 4 FixPack 15, TCP/IP v4.3
  Weasel Mailserver
  MajorMajor List Server
  Apache Web Server
  FTPServer
  Cron
  Perl
  MySQL

The new server is :-
  Pentium III - 600Mhz, (Case has 4 fans)
  384Mb RAM
  Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW Dual SCSI Adapter
  1 x IBM DNES-309170W 9Gb Harddisk
  2 x IBM DNES-318350W 18Gb Harddisk's
  With all the old software except its FP16.

http://www.os2site dot com/pages/techinfo.html

The old 486 has been struggling to reindex the site, not to mention
a few other things. Still, not bad for a computer I bought in 1993,
so it almost made 10 years of faithful service but not quite.
Lets see how long I can make this server run for ;-)

I'd like to see a different Operating System run all the software
above, and reindex 10Gb of software every 3 hours.

Cheers
Ian B Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 04:50:07 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com>
Subject:  [os2genau] REMINDER - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting

Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting 

	Date:   Tuesday, April 23, 2002
	Time:  6:30PM - 9:30PM
	Place:  Melbourne PC Group
	           Victoria, Australia.

The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG 
Normally held the fourth Tuesday of each month.
"Calendar" of events can be found via the list page.

Cheers
Ian B Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:08:30 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject:  [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news)

Hi Ian,

Had the pleasure to work with M$ small business server last week.

This consists of:
Windows 2000 Advanced Server, which has some pretty neat servers all
bundled together:
SQL
ISA
Exchange
Active Directory
....

It was all running on a Dell PowerEdge 1400SC server:
+900MHz CPU
256MB RAM
160MHz Adaptec SCSI.

Thing ran like a dog, just trying to configure it.

Still haven't been able to work-out how to get DB2 installed on it.
Will fdisk the drive & install RedHat v7.2, Samba v2.3 & DB2 v7.2.

People were telling me W2k is much better, but I suppose I've been
using "much better" for years so my idea of much better isn't the same
as Windows users.

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 01:49:17 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business

amoht schreef:

>
> I checked the Mensys site and they are still advertising Warp 4 and Warp 3 so has anyone tried purchasing
> from them?
>

Yes if the item are an overstock. No if they have to order the packages themselves from Big Blue. Guys,
please face it: Big Blue doesn't sell OS/2 anymore.

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:34:24 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news)

Hi Daryl

>Had the pleasure to work with M$ small business server last week.

Been there, done that, spent about a month trying to figure out
what I had setup wrong before being convinced its "normal" !

>This consists of:
>Windows 2000 Advanced Server, which has some pretty neat servers all
>bundled together:
>SQL
>ISA
>Exchange
>Active Directory
>...

Hey, dont forget IIS ;-)

>It was all running on a Dell PowerEdge 1400SC server:
>+900MHz CPU
>256MB RAM
>160MHz Adaptec SCSI.

The one I did was running on an IBM Netfinity PIII-500
with 768Mb RAM, all SCSI but not the 160Mhz Adaptec card.
And Exchange is a dog to setup as something secure.

Why cant they make something like Weasel, ZxMail, or
InetServer, or even Lotus Domino, all so much easier
to setup (logical is the word I'm looking for).

>Thing ran like a dog, just trying to configure it.

Windows2000 AS, never :-|

>Still haven't been able to work-out how to get DB2 installed on it.
>Will fdisk the drive & install RedHat v7.2, Samba v2.3 & DB2 v7.2.

Sounds like a better way to go :)

>People were telling me W2k is much better, but I suppose I've been
>using "much better" for years so my idea of much better isn't the same
>as Windows users.

History repeats itself, and everytime I give the benefit of a new
product, in the hope that Microsoft are nolonger focusing on being
mainly a marketing company.

Cheers
Ian B Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:47:51 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news)

Ah but Daryl you're approaching this all wrong !!

Before you go to actually install a Windows 2000 Server, you need to attend,
at the very least 2 courses for the base operating system installation. Now
SQL Server that'd be another course, oh yes to hook it to the network,
that's another course. Hey guess what active directory and exchange also
have their own courses. Hmm by the time you get the relevant training to do
this install, you've had all the training to become a Microsoft Certified
Stuffed Egg (MCSE).

Guess who creates and licences the courses (at about $4-500 each if you get
them at a discount rate), not to mention the exams at $245 (no discounts).
YES The man wins the fluffy Duck !! You're right it's our old friends
Microsoft again.

Cheers/2
Ed.

P.S. (there was some irony intended in the text). 

Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> Hi Ian,
> 
> Had the pleasure to work with M$ small business server last week.
> 
> This consists of:
> Windows 2000 Advanced Server, which has some pretty neat servers all
> bundled together:
> SQL
> ISA
> Exchange
> Active Directory
> ...
> 
> It was all running on a Dell PowerEdge 1400SC server:
> +900MHz CPU
> 256MB RAM
> 160MHz Adaptec SCSI.
> 
> Thing ran like a dog, just trying to configure it.
> 
> Still haven't been able to work-out how to get DB2 installed on it.
> Will fdisk the drive & install RedHat v7.2, Samba v2.3 & DB2 v7.2.
> 
> People were telling me W2k is much better, but I suppose I've been
> using "much better" for years so my idea of much better isn't the same
> as Windows users.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Daryl  Pilkington
> 
> //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
> O<O  AUSTRALIA
> \_/
> <O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>      IBM Certified Systems Expert
> 
>         email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>           Mob: 0425-251-300
> 

>  

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:48:04
From:  Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news)

** Reply to note from "Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com> Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:34:24 +1000 (EST)

> >People were telling me W2k is much better, but I suppose I've been 
> >using "much better" for years so my idea of much better isn't the same 
> >as Windows users. 
>  
> History repeats itself, and everytime I give the benefit of a new 
> product, in the hope that Microsoft are nolonger focusing on being 
> mainly a marketing company.

XP is much better, but, the next version will be better still....

if only they could make it 'good enough', this is what my PHP guy told me
today:

-----
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:53:43 +1000
From: Ray Cauchi
Subject: new windows feature
   
hey
  
I have just discovered a hidden feature in winXP
  
when you are in the middle of uploading a MySQL dump that is taking some 
time, the Micro$oft Auto System Reboot kicks in....
  
WinXP will restart itself when you least want it to, of its own accord and 
for no apparent reason...
  
"its such a useful feature....its the sole reason why I spent $600 on my 
shiny new OS"

Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 
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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:59:28 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business

Ok, without comment, here is the OFFICIAL answer from IBM OS/2 Marketting  :

  Question 1. Do IBM still sell OS/2 Products ? 
  Answer   1. *YES*.  We have not withdrawn from marketing OS/2 Warp V4,
OS/2
     Warp Server for e-business or IBM WorkSpace On-Demand. 

  Question 2. As far as I know there has been no notice of end-of-life of
     these base products (if I'm wrong on this, could you please point me
     to the relevant document please).  
  Answer   2. *Correct*.  IBM has not made any announcements relative to the
    end-of-life of these base products.  We have placed a document on the
Web
    that deals with the OS/2 Strategy.  It can be accessed through the
    Software Choice Website at:
      http://www-4.ibm dot com/software/os/warp/swchoice/

  Questions 3 & 4.  How does a customer purchase the following products:
                    How does a reseller purchase the following products:
                          OS/2 Warp 4 Client (full and upgrade)
                          OS/2 Warp 4 Client Additional licence
                          Workspace On-Demand (full and upgrade)
                          Workspace On-Demand Additional Licence
                          Warp Server for e-Business
  Answer to 3 & 4.  This should be business as usual.  We have not withdrawn
      the products and therefore they should be readily available through
all
      original established/announced sales and distribution channels.

  (ED:  I believe that the problem lies in handling of low volume orders by
  distributors. I have raised this question now with OS/2 marketting and
will
  let you all know the reply when I receive it.)

Cheers/2

Ed.

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> 
> amoht schreef:
> 
> >
> > I checked the Mensys site and they are still advertising Warp 4 and Warp 3 so has anyone tried purchasing
> > from them?
> >
> 
> Yes if the item are an overstock. No if they have to order the packages themselves from Big Blue. Guys,
> please face it: Big Blue doesn't sell OS/2 anymore.
> 
> --
> Groeten uit Gent,
> 
>    Kris
> 

>  

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:02:50 +1000
From:  Trevor Clarke <TClarkeatslatergordon dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Busine

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"IBM OS/2 Marketing"

Does such a division still exist?
Obviously a talented bunch of people!!!

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Ed Durrant [SMTP:edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au]
> Sent:	Monday, April 22, 2002 4:59 PM
> To:	os2genauatos2 dot org dot au
> Subject:	Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for
> e-Business
> 
> Ok, without comment, here is the OFFICIAL answer from IBM OS/2 Marketting
> :
> 
>   Question 1. Do IBM still sell OS/2 Products ? 
>   Answer   1. *YES*.  We have not withdrawn from marketing OS/2 Warp V4,
> OS/2
>      Warp Server for e-business or IBM WorkSpace On-Demand. 
> 
>   Question 2. As far as I know there has been no notice of end-of-life of
>      these base products (if I'm wrong on this, could you please point me
>      to the relevant document please).  
>   Answer   2. *Correct*.  IBM has not made any announcements relative to
> the
>     end-of-life of these base products.  We have placed a document on the
> Web
>     that deals with the OS/2 Strategy.  It can be accessed through the
>     Software Choice Website at:
>       http://www-4.ibm dot com/software/os/warp/swchoice/
> 
>   Questions 3 & 4.  How does a customer purchase the following products:
>                     How does a reseller purchase the following products:
>                           OS/2 Warp 4 Client (full and upgrade)
>                           OS/2 Warp 4 Client Additional licence
>                           Workspace On-Demand (full and upgrade)
>                           Workspace On-Demand Additional Licence
>                           Warp Server for e-Business
>   Answer to 3 & 4.  This should be business as usual.  We have not
> withdrawn
>       the products and therefore they should be readily available through
> all
>       original established/announced sales and distribution channels.
> 
> 
>   (ED:  I believe that the problem lies in handling of low volume orders
> by
>   distributors. I have raised this question now with OS/2 marketting and
> will
>   let you all know the reply when I receive it.)
> 
> Cheers/2
> 
> Ed.
>  
> 
> Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> > 
> > amoht schreef:
> > 
> > >
> > > I checked the Mensys site and they are still advertising Warp 4 and
> Warp 3 so has anyone tried purchasing
> > > from them?
> > >
> > 
> > Yes if the item are an overstock. No if they have to order the packages
> themselves from Big Blue. Guys,
> > please face it: Big Blue doesn't sell OS/2 anymore.
> > 
> > --
> > Groeten uit Gent,
> > 
> >    Kris
> > 
> >
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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:13:40 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news)

Yes you're right Voytek, the reboot IS intentional, not a bug.

If XP considers the system has frozen (or at least will freeze soon), it can
restart the OS without prompting the user.

I call this "dumb user mode" although as far as I know there's no "advanced
user mode" but hey you admit yourself you payed $600 for the product so
......

(the last paragraph is just a joke, no personal comment intended)

Cheers/2
Ed.

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> 
> ** Reply to note from "Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com> Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:34:24 +1000 (EST)
> 
> > >People were telling me W2k is much better, but I suppose I've been
> > >using "much better" for years so my idea of much better isn't the same
> > >as Windows users.
> >
> > History repeats itself, and everytime I give the benefit of a new
> > product, in the hope that Microsoft are nolonger focusing on being
> > mainly a marketing company.
> 
> XP is much better, but, the next version will be better still....
> 
> if only they could make it 'good enough', this is what my PHP guy told me
> today:
> 
> -----
> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:53:43 +1000
> From: Ray Cauchi
> Subject: new windows feature
> 
> hey
> 
> I have just discovered a hidden feature in winXP
> 
> when you are in the middle of uploading a MySQL dump that is taking some
> time, the Micro$oft Auto System Reboot kicks in....
> 
> WinXP will restart itself when you least want it to, of its own accord and
> for no apparent reason...
> 
> "its such a useful feature....its the sole reason why I spent $600 on my
> shiny new OS"
> 
> 
> Voytek Eymont
> SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
> http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
> phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118

>  

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:39:49 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business

Ed Durrant schreef:

>     that deals with the OS/2 Strategy.  It can be accessed through the
>     Software Choice Website at:
>       http://www-4.ibm dot com/software/os/warp/swchoice/
>

This whole site is about *support*, not about *to promote*.

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:37:27 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business

Ed Durrant schreef:

> Ok, without comment, here is the OFFICIAL answer from IBM OS/2 Marketting  :
>

Sorry Ed, but you'll have to reveal at least the name and function of this *OFFICIAL* spokesman/woman.

I've seen these robotized answers to many times to consider it as something serious.

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:51:28 +1000 (EST)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news)

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:47:51 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>
>P.S. (there was some irony intended in the text). 

<Further irony>
What?? REALLY?? 

Ed I would never have noticed if you hadn't said so...

<GD&R>

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
--------------------------------------------

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 19:40:57 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business

The reply is from Mr. Armando Flores, OS/2 Market manager, IBM Austin,
Texas.

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> 
> Sorry Ed, but you'll have to reveal at least the name and function of this *OFFICIAL* spokesman/woman.
> 
> I've seen these robotized answers to many times to consider it as something serious.
>
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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:12:23 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news)

Hi,
This feature can be turned-off in W2k.
This feature can be turned-on in OS/2 :)
>
>From: Ray Cauchi
>Subject: new windows feature
>   
>I have just discovered a hidden feature in winXP
>  
>when you are in the middle of uploading a MySQL dump that is taking some 
>time, the Micro$oft Auto System Reboot kicks in....
>  
>WinXP will restart itself when you least want it to, of its own accord and 
>for no apparent reason...
>  
>"its such a useful feature....its the sole reason why I spent $600 on my 
>shiny new OS"
>
SNIP
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:01:29 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business

Ed Durrant schreef:

> The reply is from Mr. Armando Flores, OS/2 Market manager, IBM Austin,
> Texas.
>

And his email addrees is: ...........

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:53:53 +1000
From:  "voytek" <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:37:27 +0200, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

and the  winner for the oxymoron competition is:

>IBM OS/2 Marketing 

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:05:04 +1000
From:  "voytek" <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] M$ Small Business Server (was Server news)

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:13:40 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>I call this "dumb user mode" although as far as I know there's no "advanced
>user mode" but hey you admit yourself you payed $600 for the product so

Ed, pls see my mssg, I was FORWARDING a users' comment.

I would not purchase a MS operating system (except when I bought and IBM thinkpad with ms bundled...)

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:14:39 +1000 (EST)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] Voice Type State of the Art?

Hello, all SIG list'ers.

In our voluntary capacity as members of a local historical society (and you
all thought I was going to be hysterical - taraa!) my family has an
opportunity to er, show off OS/2 voice capabilities against some ordinary
competition from Win 95/98 with Dragon and/or ViaVoice.

The mission, should we choose to accept it, is to transcribe a quantity of
oral history tape recordings. They are on cassette tape and therefore are
of average to fair quality continuous speech by a wide variety of
Australian voices, usually older than average.

We currently have sound built into a Thinkpad 760EL model with P-133 chip
and a 2Gb hdd shared with Win95 <Grr>.

Would anyone care to point me towards the VoiceType current state of play?
Are there any gotchas to be concerned about - sound cards, input source
etc?

Would the TalkBack/2 Text to Speech system offer any possibilities in
reverse?
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(øUø) On the lookout for replies...

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:31:08 +1000
From:  "voytek" <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Voice Type State of the Art?

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:14:39 +1000 (EST), John Angelico wrote:

>In our voluntary capacity as members of a local historical society 

did the OS/2 SIG change it's name ?

g,d&r

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Date:  Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:49:06 -0400
From:  madodelatptdprolog dot net
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Purchasing OS/2 Warp 4 or Warp Server for e-Business

In <20020422225651-39259-7atsbt dot net dot au>, on 04/22/02 at 10:53 PM,
   "voytek" <voytekatsbt dot net dot au> said:

>On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:37:27 +0200, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>and the  winner for the oxymoron competition is:

>>IBM OS/2 Marketing 

That would be a photo finish with "Microsoft Quality Control"

Mark

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