Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 325
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Friday 19 April 2002
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re: [os2genau] [Fwd: [VOICENWS] Warpstock Czech Republic UPDATE] : Trevor Clarke <TClarkeatslatergordon dot com dot au>
2  Re: [os2genau] [Fwd: [VOICENWS] Warpstock Czech Republic UPDATE] : Chris_neeson <Chris_Neesonatcompuserve dot com>
3  Re: [os2genau] SWAPPER.DAT location : Chris_neeson <Chris_Neesonatcompuserve dot com>
4  Re: [os2genau] [Fwd: [VOICENWS] Warpstock Czech Republic UPDATE] : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
5  [os2genau] Warpstock-Oz : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>

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Date:  Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:26:29 +1000
From:  Trevor Clarke <TClarkeatslatergordon dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] [Fwd: [VOICENWS] Warpstock Czech Republic UPDATE]

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	  "   ..................  Yes I have used both the VPC/2 and VPC/Win
products. I have now bought the
> GA version of VPC/2 two days ago via the web and hope to install it on a
> new
> (Aurora CP2) system that I am building, probably by the end of the
> weekend.
> 
>  Why do you have some VPC related question that I can possibly answer ??
> 
> Cheers/2
> 
> Ed.   "
> 
	[Trevor Clarke]  

	  Just  curious to see how well it works.  I'm looking at buying it
but I'll watch for announcements re how Serenity will be integrating it with
Ecs. 

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Date:  Fri, 19 Apr 2002 03:37:38 -0400
From:  Chris_neeson <Chris_Neesonatcompuserve dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] [Fwd: [VOICENWS] Warpstock Czech Republic UPDATE]

Ed, I've just picked up my emails, and noticed this thread.

I'd come to a Warpstock-sort-of, both as an attendee
and as a demonstrator.

I think

- it might be worth combining with some other computer event,
  IF we want to simplify getting the unconverted through the door

- I can demo the sort of things the 'average' home user
  might want to do, and need to do to install, Warp
  ( which are different from the level of stuff most people on
    this list seem to use OS/2 for )

- a central location for the resident OS/2 group would be simpler,
  from the perspective of transporting equipment to and from
  the site.

Regards
Chris

--------------- Ed emailed ------------------------

>Hi Kev,

 > We need to make it attractive enough for you to come across. I know it's
>now  more expensive since the demise of two airlines but we need to be
able
>to put something on so that you say you just have to make the trip !!

 > Actually I think Mark from Orion can manage the drive down to Melbourne
-
>crikey, if not I'll pick him up on the way through from Sydney !

> My experience is thatb the Adelaide OS/2 Group is more active than the
>Sydney Group, so perhaps we should have it between Melbourne and Adelaide
-
>say Ballarat ?? No that's not a good idea, then I've got further to drive
!!
 
>Cheers/2

>Ed.

>Kev Downes wrote:
>> 
>> In <3CBDE161.BDF14F63atbigpond dot net dot au>, on 04/18/2002
>>    at 06:56 AM, Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au> said:
>> 
>> >Hi Ian, and others,
>>> 
>> >  Any ideas for a location - needs to be somewhere with conference/demo
>> >for the meet plus have other attractions for the rest of the family -
or
>> >that would be ideal.
>> 
>> I would love to attend, but alas and alac being in Perth (Milliways ;-))
>> it's out of the question.  However, Wodonga is not only more central to
>> the 2 main population centres in Oz (and I assume the main OS/2-eCS user
>> base), it's also the location of the Oz distributor of eCS - Orion.
>> Perhaps they would also become involved.
>> 
>> Just an idea.
>> Cheers
>> Kev Downes
>=========================
>> Kev Downes <kdownesatiinet dot net dot au>
>> Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO!
>> We use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation.
>=========================
>> "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything;
>> and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world
and
>> nothing of himself."             Blaise Pascal
>=========================
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Date:  Fri, 19 Apr 2002 03:54:35 -0400
From:  Chris_neeson <Chris_Neesonatcompuserve dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] SWAPPER.DAT location

Actually, what Kev seems to want to do
- get the virtual memory swap file into physical memory -
was one of the things I tried to do by using IDE disk controllers
with memory slots on them

( of course, the project stalled when OS/2 wouldn't boot
  from a diks on those controllers once I installed a SCSI card,
  but that was one of the aims ).

Regards
Chris

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>On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 17:26:55 +1000, Trevor Clarke wrote:

>Hi guys.

>As I read the RAMFS docs, that would be a dangerous proposition, because
>normally when RAMFS fills memory, the Swapper would be used to carry the
>overflow as per normal OS/2 behaviour.

>But if you are pointing Swapper.Dat at the RAM drive you will create an
>infinite loop where RAMFS fills, Swapper takes some images of real RAM,
>then tries to put this to RAMFS which gets bigger then Swapper takes more
>into RAMFS, then RAMFS expands again... you get the picture?

>And what follows is a pretty rapid lockup of your machine....

>Best regards
>John Angelico
>OS/2 SIG
>talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
____________________________________________

>>Kev,
>>
>>I'd be interested to see if you got any performance benefit in doing
this.
>>I would have thought that the swap file would not be written to unless
the
>>RAM resources were already exceeded.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:       Kev Downes [SMTP:kdownesatiinet dot net dot au]
>>> Sent:       Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:19 PM
>>> To: os2genauatos2 dot org dot au
>>> Subject:    [os2genau] SWAPPER.DAT location
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know if I can locate my SWAPPER.DAT on a RAMFS drive?  I
>>> already use RAMFS to create a ram drive to point my TEMP4DOS, TEMP and
>>> TMP environment variables at.  It would surely make a fast swap file. 
I
>>> have 320Meg of physical RAM installed, and my swap file has never, ever
>>> grown above 6Meg, and usually doesn't break the default 2Meg.  I guess
it
>>> comes down to the order in which everything loads at boot time, but I
>>> don't know that order or whether or not I can influence that order.
>>> 
>>>Thanx all
>>> Kev Downes
=========================
>>> Kev Downes <kdownesatiinet dot net dot au>
>>> Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO!  
>>> We use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation.
=========================
>>> "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything;
>>> and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world
and
>>> nothing of himself."             Blaise Pascal
=========================
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Date:  Fri, 19 Apr 2002 18:13:27 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] [Fwd: [VOICENWS] Warpstock Czech Republic UPDATE]

I didn't know there needed to be any special "integration" for eCS, I would
have thought it would simply run as an application, or are Serenity "value
adding" something eCS specific to it ??

I was very impressed how well the VPC/Win variant with Warop as the guest
ran. I had problems with my hardware with the VPC/2 version, which is why I
am building a more convential OS/2 box at the moment to try it out properly.

Cheers/2
Ed.

Trevor Clarke wrote:
> 
>           "   ..................  Yes I have used both the VPC/2 and VPC/Win
> products. I have now bought the
> > GA version of VPC/2 two days ago via the web and hope to install it on a
> > new
> > (Aurora CP2) system that I am building, probably by the end of the
> > weekend.
> >
> >  Why do you have some VPC related question that I can possibly answer ??
> >
> > Cheers/2
> >
> > Ed.   "
> >
>         [Trevor Clarke]
> 
>           Just  curious to see how well it works.  I'm looking at buying it
> but I'll watch for announcements re how Serenity will be integrating it with
> Ecs.
> 
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Date:  Fri, 19 Apr 2002 18:27:41 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] Warpstock-Oz

Thanks for the response Chris.

I think I'll wait a few more days and then set up a distribution list to 
those who are interested in helping in any way.

We can then throw all the aims and ideas into one basket, perhaps set up an 
IRC meeting (I can run the IRC server with no problems for all to access)
and
see what comes out of it.

I have my ideas but i'm only one of the group, we'll need to come to a
consensus or what we are able to put on and then get the ball rolling.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Chris_neeson wrote:
> 
> Ed, I've just picked up my emails, and noticed this thread.
> 
> I'd come to a Warpstock-sort-of, both as an attendee
> and as a demonstrator.
> 
> I think
> 
> - it might be worth combining with some other computer event,
>   IF we want to simplify getting the unconverted through the door
> 
> - I can demo the sort of things the 'average' home user
>   might want to do, and need to do to install, Warp
>   ( which are different from the level of stuff most people on
>     this list seem to use OS/2 for )
> 
> - a central location for the resident OS/2 group would be simpler,
>   from the perspective of transporting equipment to and from
>   the site.
> 
> Regards
> Chris
> 
> --------------- Ed emailed ------------------------
> 
> >Hi Kev,
> 
>  > We need to make it attractive enough for you to come across. I know it's
> >now  more expensive since the demise of two airlines but we need to be
> able
> >to put something on so that you say you just have to make the trip !!
> 
>  > Actually I think Mark from Orion can manage the drive down to Melbourne
> -
> >crikey, if not I'll pick him up on the way through from Sydney !
> 
> > My experience is thatb the Adelaide OS/2 Group is more active than the
> >Sydney Group, so perhaps we should have it between Melbourne and Adelaide
> -
> >say Ballarat ?? No that's not a good idea, then I've got further to drive
> !!
> 
> >Cheers/2
> 
> >Ed.
> 
> >Kev Downes wrote:
> >>
> >> In <3CBDE161.BDF14F63atbigpond dot net dot au>, on 04/18/2002
> >>    at 06:56 AM, Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au> said:
> >>
> >> >Hi Ian, and others,
> >>>
> >> >  Any ideas for a location - needs to be somewhere with conference/demo
> >> >for the meet plus have other attractions for the rest of the family -
> or
> >> >that would be ideal.
> >>
> >> I would love to attend, but alas and alac being in Perth (Milliways ;-))
> >> it's out of the question.  However, Wodonga is not only more central to
> >> the 2 main population centres in Oz (and I assume the main OS/2-eCS user
> >> base), it's also the location of the Oz distributor of eCS - Orion.
> >> Perhaps they would also become involved.
> >>
> >> Just an idea.
> >> Cheers
> >> Kev Downes
> >=========================
> >> Kev Downes <kdownesatiinet dot net dot au>
> >> Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO!
> >> We use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation.
> >=========================
> >> "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything;
> >> and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world
> and
> >> nothing of himself."             Blaise Pascal
> >=========================

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