Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 313
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Friday 05 April 2002
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
2  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au
3  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
4  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
5  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
6  [os2genau] Mobile TCP/IP, (was TCPIP questions) : Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
7  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
8  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
9  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au
10  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
11  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
12  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
13  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
14  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
15  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
16  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
17  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>

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Date:  Fri, 05 Apr 2002 10:13:28 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

Hi to all the guru s out there...

can anyone  help me and educate me about...

1	I want to be able to change the TCPIP setup to reflect whether i  am either at work  or at home....  obviously 
there is a ini file 
or some such that  is modified ... I wonder if I cant have 2 TCPIP set up files  

	a	home
	b `	LAN at work

and then use a batch file routine to xcopy  either one to the what ever file it is called   (???PIP.ini  )   eg  xcopy 
X:\home.ini 
c:\TCPIP\setup.ini.... or what ever the name of the file is??  do you understand?

so that at the end of the day at work , I can xcopy the file across and then reboot at home and log onto the internet 
(ADSL) at home and then at the end of the night or weekend xcopy the LAN settings and reboot at work... sounds 
simple !

2	what is the difference between   LPD and LPDPORT    printing in the TCPIP set up properties?

Graham Norton
Neurologist

"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

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Date:  Fri, 5 Apr 2002 10:30:39 +0930
From:  brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

Graham,
Their are many ways of achieving this.
See my off list e-mail.

-----------------------------------------
Brian Butler
System Administrator
brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au

                                                                                                              
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Hi to all the guru s out there...

can anyone  help me and educate me about...

1          I want to be able to change the TCPIP setup to reflect whether i
am either at work  or at home....  obviously
there is a ini file
or some such that  is modified ... I wonder if I cant have 2 TCPIP set up
files

           a         home
           b `       LAN at work

and then use a batch file routine to xcopy  either one to the what ever
file it is called   (???PIP.ini  )   eg  xcopy
X:\home.ini
c:\TCPIP\setup.ini.... or what ever the name of the file is??  do you
understand?

so that at the end of the day at work , I can xcopy the file across and
then reboot at home and log onto the internet
(ADSL) at home and then at the end of the night or weekend xcopy the LAN
settings and reboot at work... sounds
simple !

2          what is the difference between   LPD and LPDPORT    printing in
the TCPIP set up properties?

Graham Norton
Neurologist

"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

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Date:  Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:10:03
From:  Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

** Reply to note from "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au> Fri, 05 Apr 2002 10:13:28 +1100 (EDT)

> Hi to all the guru s out there... 
>    
> can anyone  help me and educate me about... 

whilst we're waiting for them, I'll throw in my $.02

> 1	I want to be able to change the TCPIP setup to reflect whether i  am either 
> at work  or at home....  obviously  
> there is a ini file  
> or some such that  is modified ... I wonder if I cant have 2 TCPIP set up 
> files   
>    
> 	a	home 
> 	b `	LAN at work 
>    
> and then use a batch file routine to xcopy  either one to the what ever file 
> it is called   (???PIP.ini  )   eg  xcopy  
> X:\home.ini  
> c:\TCPIP\setup.ini.... or what ever the name of the file is??  do you understand?

<groper>[D:\mptn\bin]type setup.cmd

route -fh
arp -f
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
ifconfig lan0 203.41.6.11 netmask 255.255.255.0 metric 0 mtu 1500
REM ifconfig lan1
REM ifconfig lan2
REM ifconfig lan3
REM ifconfig lan4
REM ifconfig lan5
REM ifconfig lan6
REM ifconfig lan7
rem route add -net 203.41.6 203.41.6.1 -hopcount 1
route add default 203.41.6.1 -hopcount 1
inetcfg -s all

-------

there could well be an easier way, but, I'd guess you could have multiple
\mptn\bin\setup.cmd to switch

this determins your host ip, etc.

you can also edit
D:\tcpip\bin\tcpstart.cmd
as to what starts, whe.

JUST CAREFULL< AFTER YOU EDIT tcpstart.cmd it may well no longer work in GUI
Java applet, you've been warned... (if you simple UN-REM things, it
shouldn't matter, though, IF you alter beyoned REM/ not REM, it might)

hth,

Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 
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Date:  Fri, 05 Apr 2002 12:23:11 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

Hi Graham,
The best solution is to run a DHCP server at work & at home.
TCP/IP configuration is then automatically defined at PC boot-up from
the DHCP server.
This is the Industry-Standard way of doing it.
Anything else is a kludge.

WS4eB has a DHCP server that can be enabled at your work.

You could use a GPL Smoothwall box at home:
http://www.smoothwall dot org

Its free :)
It would be best to have Smoothwall running on a P100 box with 2 NICs.
NIC 1 (Red)
Connects to:
D-Link ADSL modem 

NIC 2 (Green)
Connects to:
Laptop

You will need instructions for:
1)
WS4eB DHCP server setup
2)
GPL Smoothwall

Neither setup is trivial, but it is not too hard either.

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Date:  Fri, 05 Apr 2002 13:20:27 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

Hi Graham,
You put 2 questions together, this one almost got overlooked.

*** UNIX ********* OS/2 EQUIVALENT *************************
    LPD            print server, (shared network printer)

    LPDPORTD       print client that allows printing to a lpd print
server
************************************************************

The above is an over-simplified explanation, that is sufficient to get
you started.

On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 10:13:28 +1100 (EDT), Dr Graham Norton FRACP
Neurologist wrote:
>
SNIP
>
> What is the difference between LPD and LPDPORT printing in the
> TCPIP set up properties?
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Date:  Fri, 05 Apr 2002 13:28:16 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject:  [os2genau] Mobile TCP/IP, (was TCPIP questions)

Hi Graham,
For painless mobile TCP/IP, users really need the following:

1)
DHCP at all locations so TCP/IP routing IP address assignment is
automatic at boot.

2)
Local SMTP mail server, (like Weasel), so mail can be sent from any
location.

If the user is using a dialup condition 1) is met, however for LAN
access a DHCP server needs to be running on the LAN.

By configuring a local SMTP mail server, you are independent of the
site's outgoing mail server, which would have to be changed at each
location in your mail program.

I use the above setup, its simple, I don't have to do anything, it
works.

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Date:  Fri, 05 Apr 2002 12:54:16 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

Daryl

<Neither setup is trivial, but it is not too hard either.>

nothing that you have ever suggested to me is trivial  but then again its usually a bit 
too hard!

you forget I am only a neurologist!

On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 12:23:11 +1000 (EST), Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Hi Graham,
>The best solution is to run a DHCP server at work & at home.
>TCP/IP configuration is then automatically defined at PC boot-up from
>the DHCP server.
>This is the Industry-Standard way of doing it.
>Anything else is a kludge.
>
>WS4eB has a DHCP server that can be enabled at your work.
>
>You could use a GPL Smoothwall box at home:
>http://www.smoothwall dot org
>
>Its free :)
>It would be best to have Smoothwall running on a P100 box with 2 NICs.
>NIC 1 (Red)
>Connects to:
>D-Link ADSL modem 
>
>NIC 2 (Green)
>Connects to:
>Laptop
>
>You will need instructions for:
>1)
>WS4eB DHCP server setup
>2)
>GPL Smoothwall
>
>Neither setup is trivial, but it is not too hard either.
>
>Regards,
>
>Daryl  Pilkington 
>
>//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
>O<O  AUSTRALIA
>\_/
><O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>     IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>          ICQ: 91914134
>          Mob: 0425-251-300
>

> 

>

Graham Norton
Neurologist

"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

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Date:  Fri, 05 Apr 2002 13:02:49 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

Sorry Daryl its still double dutch!!!  you talk about print servers in both instances...

 I have 4 printers set up as TCPIP printers on the server and then share them as a 
network printer on the network to the clients at log on...  

On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 13:20:27 +1000 (EST), Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Hi Graham,
>You put 2 questions together, this one almost got overlooked.
>
>
>*** UNIX ********* OS/2 EQUIVALENT *************************
>    LPD            print server, (shared network printer)
>
>    LPDPORTD       print client that allows printing to a lpd print
>server
>************************************************************
>
>The above is an over-simplified explanation, that is sufficient to get
>you started.
>
>
>On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 10:13:28 +1100 (EDT), Dr Graham Norton FRACP
>Neurologist wrote:
>>
>SNIP
>>
>> What is the difference between LPD and LPDPORT printing in the
>> TCPIP set up properties?
>>
>
>Regards,
>
>Daryl  Pilkington 
>
>//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
>O<O  AUSTRALIA
>\_/
><O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>     IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>          ICQ: 91914134
>          Mob: 0425-251-300
>

> 

>

Graham Norton
Neurologist

"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

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Date:  Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:29:52 +0930
From:  brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

Graham,
Regarding the printer stuff,

To quote from the TCP/IP Guide in the OS/2 help system:-

LPRPORTD
=========
LPRPORTD is a port driver that enables you to redirect output for any local
printer object to a remote printer.
LPRPORTD services all printer objects that use \PIPE\LPDn printer ports,
where n is a number from 0 to 64
(you can use as many as 64 LPD printer ports to support up to 64 remote
printer destinations.

LPD
==========
LPD is the Line Printer Deamon. It is the printer server.
To quote from the help again
The print server, LPD, enables an OS/2 workstation (or server) to act as a
remote print server. Clients can
then submit, query, and remove print jobs from any OS/2 print queue
(printer object) defined at the server workstation.

Hope this is enlightening!

-----------------------------------------
Brian Butler
System Administrator
brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au

                                                                                                              
                    "Dr Graham                                                                                
                    Norton FRACP         To:     "os2genauatos2 dot org dot au" <deadmail>                  
                    Neurologist"         cc:                                                                  
                    <gnatsmart-roa        Subject:     Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions                          
                    d dot com dot au>                                                                                 
                                                                                                              
                    05/04/2002                                                                                
                    08:43                                                                                     
                    Please                                                                                    
                    respond to                                                                                
                    os2genau                                                                                  

Hi to all the guru s out there...

can anyone  help me and educate me about...

1          I want to be able to change the TCPIP setup to reflect whether i
am either at work  or at home....  obviously
there is a ini file
or some such that  is modified ... I wonder if I cant have 2 TCPIP set up
files

           a         home
           b `       LAN at work

and then use a batch file routine to xcopy  either one to the what ever
file it is called   (???PIP.ini  )   eg  xcopy
X:\home.ini
c:\TCPIP\setup.ini.... or what ever the name of the file is??  do you
understand?

so that at the end of the day at work , I can xcopy the file across and
then reboot at home and log onto the internet
(ADSL) at home and then at the end of the night or weekend xcopy the LAN
settings and reboot at work... sounds
simple !

2          what is the difference between   LPD and LPDPORT    printing in
the TCPIP set up properties?

Graham Norton
Neurologist

"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

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Date:  Fri, 05 Apr 2002 14:05:27 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

Hmmm...
I've failed miserably to explain the difference, I think I'll go eat a
TCP/IP worm.
Was it double Dutch or a Double Byte Character Set, (DBCS)?

OK, Graham, I'll think about this one & compose version #2 this
evening.

On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 13:02:49 +1100 (EDT), Dr Graham Norton FRACP
Neurologist wrote:

>Sorry Daryl its still double dutch!!!  you talk about print servers in both instances...
>
SNIP
>
>On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 13:20:27 +1000 (EST), Daryl Pilkington wrote:
>
SNIP
>>
>>*** UNIX ********* OS/2 EQUIVALENT *************************
>>    LPD            print server, (shared network printer)
>>
>>    LPDPORTD       print client that allows printing to a lpd print
>>server
>>************************************************************
>>
SNIP
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Date:  Fri, 5 Apr 2002 14:19:52
From:  Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

** Reply to note from brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:29:52 +0930

> LPRPORTD 
> ========= 
> LPRPORTD is a port driver that enables you to redirect output for any local 
> printer object to a remote printer. 
> LPRPORTD services all printer objects that use \PIPE\LPDn printer ports, 
> where n is a number from 0 to 64 
> (you can use as many as 64 LPD printer ports to support up to 64 remote 
> printer destinations.

I use

START /c /min "PrinterD" lprportd

from startup to print to HP4Si on the LAN

the HPAdmin stuff, whish is extremely nice, and, has oodles of features,
was also extremely flakey, this just works, but, no fancy features

Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 
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Date:  Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:47:33 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

There's several ways to approach this Graham.

For point 1. There is a program that you have from PPPConnect (OS2 RAS)
days that can switch network interface configurations for you, this is 
especially useful if one of the connections is a modem dial-up. However
I think in both cases you're connecting into a CAT5 UTP ethernet connection.
In this situation a better solution is to configure your PC for DHCP and 
to pick up the relevant settings from a DHCP server (or device) in whatever
location you connect in. At home, your ADSL "modem" is also a DHCP server,
which will allocate your PC an IP address and set such things as default
gateway and DNS addresses. (that's only if you connect direct to the modem
though). In the office if you have a hardware gateway system, these can
usually be configured to run as DHCP servers as well. Otherwise, you can add
the DHCP server service to an existing server (perhaps your print server?).

For Point 2.  LPD is lineprinter Demon. This is used when you are sharing a
printer out to other users via TCPIP.
              LPRPORTD is the "client" you need to load on your PC to be
able
to connect to a TCPIP based printer server (possibly an OS/2 PC running LPD
or
the network card in a LAN attached printer or a printer sharing box like 
a Jet Direct box or similar).

Both of these are TCPIP networking related programs, nothing to do with
"normal" SMB (Netbios) type networking.

NOW if you REALLY want to put a high performance Print server together
there's now SLPR or Streaming LPR, which enables very high speed printing
across the network. Just released for OS/2.

Hope this clarifies things

Cheers/2

Ed.

Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> 
> Hi to all the guru s out there...
> 
> can anyone  help me and educate me about...
> 
> 1       I want to be able to change the TCPIP setup to reflect whether i  am either at work  or at home....  obviously
> there is a ini file
> or some such that  is modified ... I wonder if I cant have 2 TCPIP set up files
> 
>         a       home
>         b `     LAN at work
> 
> and then use a batch file routine to xcopy  either one to the what ever file it is called   (???PIP.ini  )   eg  xcopy
> X:\home.ini
> c:\TCPIP\setup.ini.... or what ever the name of the file is??  do you understand?
> 
> so that at the end of the day at work , I can xcopy the file across and then reboot at home and log onto the internet
> (ADSL) at home and then at the end of the night or weekend xcopy the LAN settings and reboot at work... sounds
> simple !
> 
> 2       what is the difference between   LPD and LPDPORT    printing in the TCPIP set up properties?
> 
> Graham Norton
> Neurologist
> 
> "when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
> when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"
> 

>  

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Date:  Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:05:37 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

Hi Ed/Graham,

Graham, what model D-Link ADSL modem are you using?
I'm not sure if it has an integral DHCP server.

If it does, it will be very easy to configure, even for a Neurologist
;)
This would be the best solution for your home.

For the office, configuring DHCP server on your WS4eB server is the way
to go.
Not so simple...

On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:47:33 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>There's several ways to approach this Graham.
>
SNIP
>
>In this situation a better solution is to configure your PC for DHCP and 
>to pick up the relevant settings from a DHCP server (or device) in whatever
>location you connect in. At home, your ADSL "modem" is also a DHCP server,
>which will allocate your PC an IP address and set such things as default
>gateway and DNS addresses. (that's only if you connect direct to the modem
>though). In the office if you have a hardware gateway system, these can
>usually be configured to run as DHCP servers as well. Otherwise, you can add
>the DHCP server service to an existing server (perhaps your print server?).
>
SNIP
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Date:  Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:59:28 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

HI Daryl

For the office, configuring DHCP server on your WS4eB server is the way
to go.
Not so simple...

I think that we are already  running the DHCP server at work set up by Brian for me!!

The Home ADSL modem is an ALCATEL "Speed Touch Home" model..... any 
help?

On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:05:37 +1000 (EST), Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Hi Ed/Graham,
>
>Graham, what model D-Link ADSL modem are you using?
>I'm not sure if it has an integral DHCP server.
>
>If it does, it will be very easy to configure, even for a Neurologist
>;)
>This would be the best solution for your home.
>
>For the office, configuring DHCP server on your WS4eB server is the way
>to go.
>Not so simple...
>
>
>On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:47:33 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
>>
>>There's several ways to approach this Graham.
>>
>SNIP
>>
>>In this situation a better solution is to configure your PC for DHCP and 
>>to pick up the relevant settings from a DHCP server (or device) in whatever
>>location you connect in. At home, your ADSL "modem" is also a DHCP server,
>>which will allocate your PC an IP address and set such things as default
>>gateway and DNS addresses. (that's only if you connect direct to the modem
>>though). In the office if you have a hardware gateway system, these can
>>usually be configured to run as DHCP servers as well. Otherwise, you can add
>>the DHCP server service to an existing server (perhaps your print server?).
>>
>SNIP
>>
>
>Regards,
>
>Daryl  Pilkington 
>
>//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
>O<O  AUSTRALIA
>\_/
><O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>     IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>          ICQ: 91914134
>          Mob: 0425-251-300
>

> 

>

Graham Norton
Neurologist

"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

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Date:  Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:08:15 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

HI Ed

your explanation is understandable and so I assume that on the File and Print 
Server (WSeB) at work I run the LPD  (part of the autorun options in TCPIP).

I think I do this already but perhaps using  LPRPORTD  on the server rather than 
LPD....

The 4 printers are assigned to an LPD printer port and set up with an IP address .... 
2 x HP 2100TN with inbuilt card and 2  epson L300 which are connected to an 
netgear print server 'box"....

then I actually set up each  printer on the server as a network printer and share 
create an access/share to the workstations and they log on and use NetBios to  
"see the printers"....  so I dont really need to run LPRPORTD on the clients? 
correct?

I tried to set up a "pure" TCPIP printing network , but it was rather slow and 
subjected to unexplained hiccups and print files suddenly taking an interminable 
time to be sent to the printer by the spooler  - often several minutes!!!

n Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:47:33 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>There's several ways to approach this Graham.
>
>For point 1. There is a program that you have from PPPConnect (OS2 RAS)
>days that can switch network interface configurations for you, this is 
>especially useful if one of the connections is a modem dial-up. However
>I think in both cases you're connecting into a CAT5 UTP ethernet connection.
>In this situation a better solution is to configure your PC for DHCP and 
>to pick up the relevant settings from a DHCP server (or device) in whatever
>location you connect in. At home, your ADSL "modem" is also a DHCP server,
>which will allocate your PC an IP address and set such things as default
>gateway and DNS addresses. (that's only if you connect direct to the modem
>though). In the office if you have a hardware gateway system, these can
>usually be configured to run as DHCP servers as well. Otherwise, you can add
>the DHCP server service to an existing server (perhaps your print server?).
>
>For Point 2.  LPD is lineprinter Demon. This is used when you are sharing a
>printer out to other users via TCPIP.
>              LPRPORTD is the "client" you need to load on your PC to be
>able
>to connect to a TCPIP based printer server (possibly an OS/2 PC running LPD
>or
>the network card in a LAN attached printer or a printer sharing box like 
>a Jet Direct box or similar).
>
>Both of these are TCPIP networking related programs, nothing to do with
>"normal" SMB (Netbios) type networking.
>
>NOW if you REALLY want to put a high performance Print server together
>there's now SLPR or Streaming LPR, which enables very high speed printing
>across the network. Just released for OS/2.
>
>Hope this clarifies things
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
> 
>
>Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
>> 
>> Hi to all the guru s out there...
>> 
>> can anyone  help me and educate me about...
>> 
>> 1       I want to be able to change the TCPIP setup to reflect whether i  am either at 
work  or at home....  obviously
>> there is a ini file
>> or some such that  is modified ... I wonder if I cant have 2 TCPIP set up files
>> 
>>         a       home
>>         b `     LAN at work
>> 
>> and then use a batch file routine to xcopy  either one to the what ever file it is 
called   (???PIP.ini  )   eg  xcopy
>> X:\home.ini
>> c:\TCPIP\setup.ini.... or what ever the name of the file is??  do you understand?
>> 
>> so that at the end of the day at work , I can xcopy the file across and then reboot 
at home and log onto the internet
>> (ADSL) at home and then at the end of the night or weekend xcopy the LAN 
settings and reboot at work... sounds
>> simple !
>> 
>> 2       what is the difference between   LPD and LPDPORT    printing in the TCPIP 
set up properties?
>> 
>> Graham Norton
>> Neurologist
>> 
>> "when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
>> when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"
>> 
>
>>  
>

> 

>

Graham Norton
Neurologist

"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

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Date:  Fri, 05 Apr 2002 20:38:40 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

No you haven't quite got it Graham.

You Don't run LPD on your server. The built in network card and the Netgear 
print server runs LPD in your configuration.

I mentioned that this form of printer sharing is not part of the "normal"
SMB networking. 

What you are doing is connecting to the printers via LPRPORTD on the server
-
hence the link server to printers is using "TCPIP networking" if you like.
Once the printers are available to the server you are sharing them out to 
clients using the "Netbios SMB networking".

Is this clearer ??

Cheers/2
Ed.

Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> 
> HI Ed
> 
> your explanation is understandable and so I assume that on the File and Print
> Server (WSeB) at work I run the LPD  (part of the autorun options in TCPIP).
> 
> I think I do this already but perhaps using  LPRPORTD  on the server rather than
> LPD....
> 
> The 4 printers are assigned to an LPD printer port and set up with an IP address ....
> 2 x HP 2100TN with inbuilt card and 2  epson L300 which are connected to an
> netgear print server 'box"....
> 
> then I actually set up each  printer on the server as a network printer and share
> create an access/share to the workstations and they log on and use NetBios to
> "see the printers"....  so I dont really need to run LPRPORTD on the clients?
> correct?
> 
> I tried to set up a "pure" TCPIP printing network , but it was rather slow and
> subjected to unexplained hiccups and print files suddenly taking an interminable
> time to be sent to the printer by the spooler  - often several minutes!!!
> 
> n Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:47:33 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> >There's several ways to approach this Graham.
> >
> >For point 1. There is a program that you have from PPPConnect (OS2 RAS)
> >days that can switch network interface configurations for you, this is
> >especially useful if one of the connections is a modem dial-up. However
> >I think in both cases you're connecting into a CAT5 UTP ethernet connection.
> >In this situation a better solution is to configure your PC for DHCP and
> >to pick up the relevant settings from a DHCP server (or device) in whatever
> >location you connect in. At home, your ADSL "modem" is also a DHCP server,
> >which will allocate your PC an IP address and set such things as default
> >gateway and DNS addresses. (that's only if you connect direct to the modem
> >though). In the office if you have a hardware gateway system, these can
> >usually be configured to run as DHCP servers as well. Otherwise, you can add
> >the DHCP server service to an existing server (perhaps your print server?).
> >
> >For Point 2.  LPD is lineprinter Demon. This is used when you are sharing a
> >printer out to other users via TCPIP.
> >              LPRPORTD is the "client" you need to load on your PC to be
> >able
> >to connect to a TCPIP based printer server (possibly an OS/2 PC running LPD
> >or
> >the network card in a LAN attached printer or a printer sharing box like
> >a Jet Direct box or similar).
> >
> >Both of these are TCPIP networking related programs, nothing to do with
> >"normal" SMB (Netbios) type networking.
> >
> >NOW if you REALLY want to put a high performance Print server together
> >there's now SLPR or Streaming LPR, which enables very high speed printing
> >across the network. Just released for OS/2.
> >
> >Hope this clarifies things
> >
> >Cheers/2
> >
> >Ed.
> >
> >
> >Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi to all the guru s out there...
> >>
> >> can anyone  help me and educate me about...
> >>
> >> 1       I want to be able to change the TCPIP setup to reflect whether i  am either at
> work  or at home....  obviously
> >> there is a ini file
> >> or some such that  is modified ... I wonder if I cant have 2 TCPIP set up files
> >>
> >>         a       home
> >>         b `     LAN at work
> >>
> >> and then use a batch file routine to xcopy  either one to the what ever file it is
> called   (???PIP.ini  )   eg  xcopy
> >> X:\home.ini
> >> c:\TCPIP\setup.ini.... or what ever the name of the file is??  do you understand?
> >>
> >> so that at the end of the day at work , I can xcopy the file across and then reboot
> at home and log onto the internet
> >> (ADSL) at home and then at the end of the night or weekend xcopy the LAN
> settings and reboot at work... sounds
> >> simple !
> >>
> >> 2       what is the difference between   LPD and LPDPORT    printing in the TCPIP
> set up properties?
> >>
> >> Graham Norton
> >> Neurologist
> >>
> >> "when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
> >> when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"
> >>
> >
> >>  
> >

> > 

> >
> 
> Graham Norton
> Neurologist
> 
> "when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
> when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"
> 

>  

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Date:  Fri, 05 Apr 2002 20:43:48 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] TCPIP questions

The other question is whether at home Graham connects directly to the ADSL
modem or whether he goes through another PC as a firewall. If direct, either
the ADSL modem or the ISP can issue the required DHCP support. If there's 
a device in between, it'll need to perform the DHCP function. I wonder if IJ 
Firewall V3 has this function ??

DHCP server set up on WSeB is not well documented, however I have done it
and
have (I hope I can find them still) my one scribbled notes on how to do it.
I
had to configure it to be able to run network station thin clients once.

Cheers/2
Ed. 

Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed/Graham,
> 
> Graham, what model D-Link ADSL modem are you using?
> I'm not sure if it has an integral DHCP server.
> 
> If it does, it will be very easy to configure, even for a Neurologist
> ;)
> This would be the best solution for your home.
> 
> For the office, configuring DHCP server on your WS4eB server is the way
> to go.
> Not so simple...
> 
> On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:47:33 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> >
> >There's several ways to approach this Graham.
> >
> SNIP
> >
> >In this situation a better solution is to configure your PC for DHCP and
> >to pick up the relevant settings from a DHCP server (or device) in whatever
> >location you connect in. At home, your ADSL "modem" is also a DHCP server,
> >which will allocate your PC an IP address and set such things as default
> >gateway and DNS addresses. (that's only if you connect direct to the modem
> >though). In the office if you have a hardware gateway system, these can
> >usually be configured to run as DHCP servers as well. Otherwise, you can add
> >the DHCP server service to an existing server (perhaps your print server?).
> >
> SNIP
> >
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Daryl  Pilkington
> 
> //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
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> 
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> 

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