Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 293
From: "Digest" <newsatos2site dot com>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" <deadmail>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 01:00:00 +1100 (EDT)

Date:- 12 March 2002

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From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:08:08 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer

Hi,
I've successfully installed IBM Web Browser & Java 1.30.

However, I had to install Java 1.30 using Netscape 4.61 as Feature
Installer was only configured to work there.

How do I configure Feature Installer to work with IBM Web Browser?

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:24:36 +1030
From: Gregory Hicks <ghicksatihug dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer

apparently you can't.

it seems that netscape is the only thing to use for the first install of java :(

Daryl Pilkington wrote:

> Hi,
> I've successfully installed IBM Web Browser & Java 1.30.
>
> However, I had to install Java 1.30 using Netscape 4.61 as Feature
> Installer was only configured to work there.
>
> How do I configure Feature Installer to work with IBM Web Browser?
>
> Regards,
>
> Daryl  Pilkington
>
> //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
> O<O  AUSTRALIA
> \_/
> <O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>      IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>         email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>           ICQ: 91914134
>           Mob: 0425-251-300
>

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From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:03:34 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau] IBM Web-Browser v1.1 & Java 1.3

Hi,
Has anyone got IBM Web-Browser v1.1 & Java 1.3 working with anything
useful like:

1)
Adelaide Bank Internet Banking
2)
DTOC v4

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
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        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 00:40:12 +0100
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer

Gregory Hicks schreef:

> apparently you can't.
>
> it seems that netscape is the only thing to use for the first install of java :(
>

That's what Big Blue wants us to believe of course. But actually, you just can copy or
xcopy or zip and unzip over from an already installed system; + just add the pair of
appropriate entries in the config.sys manually.

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:43:48 +1030
From: Gregory Hicks <ghicksatihug dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer

~think outside the box~

Kris Steenhaut wrote:

> Gregory Hicks schreef:
>
> > apparently you can't.
> >
> > it seems that netscape is the only thing to use for the first install of java :(
> >
>
> That's what Big Blue wants us to believe of course. But actually, you just can copy or
> xcopy or zip and unzip over from an already installed system; + just add the pair of
> appropriate entries in the config.sys manually.
>
> --
> Groeten uit Gent,
>
>    Kris
>

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From: "David Forrester" <davidforatterrigal dot net dot au>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:37:53 +1100
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Web-Browser v1.1 & Java 1.3

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:03:34 +1100 (EDT), Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Hi,
>Has anyone got IBM Web-Browser v1.1 & Java 1.3 working with anything
>useful like:
>
>1)
>Adelaide Bank Internet Banking

I happen to be using Win2000 at the moment (for work), so I tried
Netscape 6.01 (I don't have a Java plugin for Mozilla in Windows).  The
banks compatibility test doesn't even detect Java.  As Java does work
(or at lease it did on java.sun dot com 30 seconds later), they must be
looking for a different version.  So, I'm guessing that they are
looking for a 1.1 version.

>2)
>DTOC v4

It won't work.  It only works for Java 1.1.8.  Hence, it won't work
with the Mozilla based browsers.  This is particularly annoying, as to
use it under Win2000, I have to use Internet Explorer.  And, if I
remember rightly, the readme for DTOC v5 states Java 1.1.8.  So, the
chances of v4 working with Java 1.3, is very small.  This is about the
only reason I fire up NS4.61.

--
David Forrester
davidforatterrigal dot net dot au
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:54:20 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Web-Browser v1.1 & Java 1.3

Thanks David,

Figured as much, I (wisely), didn't uninstall NS4.61, which judging by
the responses I've had, is A Good Thing, since 2/3 of the uses for my
browser don't work with the IBM Web-Browser or Java 1.3.

I installed the IBM-Browser as I have to use a system that only works
with NS 6 code:- & since IBM Web-Browser is based on the Mozilla code,
which is based on NS 6.1 code, it works!

This all bringing back bad memories of lack of computer standardization
just being a PITA for users.

Your files are not compatible with mine, unable to import into this or
that, your floppy doesn't read in mine, unable to format HDD on new
system, incompatible modem transfer protocol, blah, blah...

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:37:53 +1100, David Forrester wrote:
>
SNIP
>>1)
>>Adelaide Bank Internet Banking
>
>I happen to be using Win2000 at the moment (for work), so I tried
>Netscape 6.01 (I don't have a Java plugin for Mozilla in Windows).  The
>banks compatibility test doesn't even detect Java.  As Java does work
>(or at lease it did on java.sun dot com 30 seconds later), they must be
>looking for a different version.  So, I'm guessing that they are
>looking for a 1.1 version.
>
>>2)
>>DTOC v4
>
>It won't work.  It only works for Java 1.1.8.  Hence, it won't work
>with the Mozilla based browsers.  This is particularly annoying, as to
>use it under Win2000, I have to use Internet Explorer.  And, if I
>remember rightly, the readme for DTOC v5 states Java 1.1.8.  So, the
>chances of v4 working with Java 1.3, is very small.  This is about the
>only reason I fire up NS4.61.
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
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<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:17:54 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer

Thanks Kris,
So, Java 1.3 is no problems to migrate from an existing install, but
does Feature Installer work in the IBM Browser?

It looks like Greg is saying it doesn't, & since you need FI to install
Java 1.3, you *must* use NS 4.61 to initially install JAVA 1.3.

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 00:40:12 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
>Gregory Hicks schreef:
>
>> apparently you can't.
>>
>> it seems that netscape is the only thing to use for the first install of java :(
>>
>
>That's what Big Blue wants us to believe of course. But actually, you just can copy or
>xcopy or zip and unzip over from an already installed system; + just add the pair of
>appropriate entries in the config.sys manually.
>
SNIP
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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From: "David Forrester" <davidforatterrigal dot net dot au>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:26:28 +1100
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Web-Browser v1.1 & Java 1.3

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:54:20 +1100 (EDT), Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Thanks David,
>
>Figured as much, I (wisely), didn't uninstall NS4.61, which judging by
>the responses I've had, is A Good Thing, since 2/3 of the uses for my
>browser don't work with the IBM Web-Browser or Java 1.3.

I can agree with this.  I'm tempted to disable Java in Mozilla, as
there are few places that its worth it, plenty of places it doesn't
work and a few places that cause big problems.  Luckily this category
is getting smaller as Mozilla gets better.

>
>I installed the IBM-Browser as I have to use a system that only works
>with NS 6 code:- & since IBM Web-Browser is based on the Mozilla code,
>which is based on NS 6.1 code, it works!

Not quite the right order.  It's closer to: NS6.1 is based on Mozilla
code.  IBM Web-Browser is based on Mozilla code at the same level as
NS6.1.  Of course it's not as simple as that, as both IBM and, I
assume, Netscape have added their own proprietary code to the browser
that haven't gone back into the Mozilla tree.  Or, in the case of bug
fixes, have gone back into a much later version of Mozilla than they
are based on.

--
David Forrester
davidforatterrigal dot net dot au
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer
From: brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:57:01 +0930

Hi all,
From what I have seen from the FI / Netscape installation farce
the only reason any browser is used is for execution of a load of
Javascript.

If the Javascript can be unraveled you may be able to manually do the
installation.
Good luck.

Bye the way, whoever at IBM decided a web browser was an intelligent way to
install
software should be rewarded with a job at MS, he has their mentallity
already.

-----------------------------------------
Brian Butler
System Administrator
brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au

                                                                                                              
                    "Daryl                                                                                    
                    Pilkington"          To:     "os2genauatos2 dot org dot au" <deadmail>                  
                    <u3232athome.d        cc:                                                                  
                    ialix dot com>           Subject:     Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer                    
                                                                                                              
                    11/03/2002                                                                                
                    11:47                                                                                     
                    Please                                                                                    
                    respond to                                                                                
                    os2genau                                                                                  

Thanks Kris,
So, Java 1.3 is no problems to migrate from an existing install, but
does Feature Installer work in the IBM Browser?

It looks like Greg is saying it doesn't, & since you need FI to install
Java 1.3, you *must* use NS 4.61 to initially install JAVA 1.3.

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 00:40:12 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
>Gregory Hicks schreef:
>
>> apparently you can't.
>>
>> it seems that netscape is the only thing to use for the first install of
java :(
>>
>
>That's what Big Blue wants us to believe of course. But actually, you just
can copy or
>xcopy or zip and unzip over from an already installed system; + just add
the pair of
>appropriate entries in the config.sys manually.
>
SNIP
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:31:24 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer

Hi Brian,
Would have to agree, gee, lets install MB of code, just so I can run a
Java compiler...

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:57:01 +0930, brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au wrote:
>
SNIP
>
>Bye the way, whoever at IBM decided a web browser was an intelligent way to
>install
>software should be rewarded with a job at MS, he has their mentallity
>already.
>
SNIP
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer
From: brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:15:48 +0930

Hi Daryl,
Yep, but it's not even anything sensible like a compiler, it's interpreted
Javascript.
Have fun!

-----------------------------------------
Brian Butler
System Administrator
brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au

                                                                                                              
                    "Daryl                                                                                    
                    Pilkington"          To:     "os2genauatos2 dot org dot au" <deadmail>                  
                    <u3232athome.d        cc:                                                                  
                    ialix dot com>           Subject:     Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer                    
                                                                                                              
                    11/03/2002                                                                                
                    13:01                                                                                     
                    Please                                                                                    
                    respond to                                                                                
                    os2genau                                                                                  

Hi Brian,
Would have to agree, gee, lets install MB of code, just so I can run a
Java compiler...

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:57:01 +0930, brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au wrote:
>
SNIP
>
>Bye the way, whoever at IBM decided a web browser was an intelligent way
to
>install
>software should be rewarded with a job at MS, he has their mentallity
>already.
>
SNIP
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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From: Kev Downes <kdownesatiinet dot net dot au>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:47:43 +0800
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer

In <20020311143313-39160-7atsbt dot net dot au>, on 03/11/02 
   at 02:31 PM, "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com> said:

>Hi Brian,
>Would have to agree, gee, lets install MB of code, just so I can run a
>Java compiler...

Ahh ... but you're missing 1 important point.  See how many different
ways we can install applications in OS/2.  Wouldn't want to get bored
with a std installer. (tongue in cheek)

Lets hope WarpIn is taken up by all OS/2 developers.

Cheers
Kev Downes
=======================================================================
Kev Downes <kdownesatiinet dot net dot au>
Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO!  
We use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation.
=======================================================================
"Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything;
and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and
nothing of himself."             Blaise Pascal
=======================================================================

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Subject: [os2genau] RAID on 386HPFS
From: brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:44:57 +0930

Hi all,
I am seeking any words of wisdom regarding the
implementation of RAID 1 using 386HPFS.

All advice appreciated

-----------------------------------------
Brian Butler
System Administrator
brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au

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From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:20:59 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer

Hi Kev,
Yes, I like WarpIN...

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:47:43 +0800, Kev Downes wrote:
>
SNIP
>
>Lets hope WarpIn is taken up by all OS/2 developers.
>
SNIP
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:24:31 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] RAID on 386HPFS

Hi Brian,
I'm assuming you haven't enable local security?
This is a right PITA if you have & really need to keep your wits about
you.

Are you using Fault Tolerance with WS4eB?
This is setup with FTSETUP.EXE.

I've got to test this myself B4 Friday.

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:44:57 +0930, brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>I am seeking any words of wisdom regarding the
>implementation of RAID 1 using 386HPFS.
>
SNIP
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Subject: Re: [os2genau] RAID on 386HPFS
From: brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:07:37 +0930

Hi Daryl,
When I installed it I did not install fault tolerance, quotas
or any other extras, just the basic IFS so as to gain the
large cache capability.
I have had a brief purusal of the Network Admin Tasks INF file
but its not easy to sift the gems of knowledge required.
I only want the minimum required to do the disk mirroring thing.

-----------------------------------------
Brian Butler
System Administrator
brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au

                                                                                                              
                    "Daryl                                                                                    
                    Pilkington"          To:     "os2genauatos2 dot org dot au" <deadmail>                  
                    <u3232athome.d        cc:                                                                  
                    ialix dot com>           Subject:     Re: [os2genau] RAID on 386HPFS                          
                                                                                                              
                    11/03/2002                                                                                
                    14:54                                                                                     
                    Please                                                                                    
                    respond to                                                                                
                    os2genau                                                                                  

Hi Brian,
I'm assuming you haven't enable local security?
This is a right PITA if you have & really need to keep your wits about
you.

Are you using Fault Tolerance with WS4eB?
This is setup with FTSETUP.EXE.

I've got to test this myself B4 Friday.

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:44:57 +0930, brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>I am seeking any words of wisdom regarding the
>implementation of RAID 1 using 386HPFS.
>
SNIP
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

18==============================================

From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:58:57 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] RAID on 386HPFS

Hi Brian,
The Fault Tolerance option is what is required for software RAID 1.
You will need to install this.

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:07:37 +0930, brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au wrote:
>
>Hi Daryl,
>When I installed it I did not install fault tolerance, quotas
>or any other extras, just the basic IFS so as to gain the
>large cache capability.
>I have had a brief purusal of the Network Admin Tasks INF file
>but its not easy to sift the gems of knowledge required.
>I only want the minimum required to do the disk mirroring thing.
>
SNIP
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:03:24 +0100
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer

Daryl Pilkington schreef:

> Thanks Kris,
> So, Java 1.3 is no problems to migrate from an existing install, but
> does Feature Installer work in the IBM Browser?

The FI thing appears to be a major hurdle. That's why I took the easy way: copied the
entire 1.3 tree from a fellow member of our OS/2 user group.
As a second precaution you have to be at the latest MPTN fix, btw.

To sum up, what I did was:

- being at level FP9
- applied the latest mptn fix by copying the about 16 *dll to the appropriate directory
- copied over the 1.3 tree
- copied npjava.dll to ns461 and npoji6.dll to the Mozilla appropriate directories.

- edited manually the config.sys:

> REM java
> SET CLASSPATH=E:\JAVA11\LIB\SECMA.JAR;E:\JAVA11\LIB\CLASSES.ZIP;.\.;E:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\DAEMON\JAVAPROB.ZIP;E:\TCPIP\java;
> SET INCLUDE=E:\JAVA11\INCLUDE;E:\JAVA11\INCLUDE\OS2;E:\java13\include
> REM SET LIB=E:\JAVA11\LIB;
> SET JAVA_AUDIO_RATE=8
> SET JAVA_AUDIO_VOLUME=40
> SET java_high_mem=1
>

You have to take care java13 is at the very end of each path, otherwise you'll end in
troubles.

You can get the  latest 1.3 upgrade here:

http://www.taartenbakkerij dot com/bestanden/java13.zip

Maybe it's enough to do the job. Dunno, you'll have to sort that out by yourself I'm
afraid.

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

20==============================================

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:05:00 +0100
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer

brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au schreef:

>
> Bye the way, whoever at IBM decided a web browser was an intelligent way to
> install
> software should be rewarded with a job at MS, he has their mentallity
> already.
>

Right indeed. Actually, not that right of course. (-:

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

21==============================================

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:12:14 +0100
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] RAID on 386HPFS

brianbatkdfisher dot com dot au schreef:

> Hi Daryl,
> When I installed it I did not install fault tolerance, quotas
> or any other extras, just the basic IFS so as to gain the
> large cache capability.
> I have had a brief purusal of the Network Admin Tasks INF file
> but its not easy to sift the gems of knowledge required.
> I only want the minimum required to do the disk mirroring thing.
>

You'll find a doc in html format and the latest (I think) upgrade here:

http://www.taartenbakkerij dot com/bestanden/hpfsmax.exe

(self extracting archive)

And typing "help hpfs386" and "help acl" (without quotes) at a command prompt does give you some
additional information too.

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

22==============================================

From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:14:50 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer

Thanks Kris,

Err, what MPTS are you running?
I get:
inetver
Version numbers of TCP/IP protocol drivers:
   SOCKETS.SYS: 6.2004
   AFOS2.SYS:   6.2000
   AFINET.SYS:  6.2013

This is essentially WR08621 aka TCP/IP 4.21?
I'm thinking I should go up to TCP/IP 4.3?

I also noticed you have classpath, lib, I do not as I am running the
runtime.
Is classpath, lib required if running the runtime?

What do:
npjava.dll
npoji6.dll

Do for me?
They are something for Java support in the respective browsers?
I don't have npjava.dll on my system, but I do have:
f:\os2web\plugins\npoj16.dll

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:03:24 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:
>
SNIP
>
>As a second precaution you have to be at the latest MPTN fix, btw.
>
SNIP
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Mob: 0425-251-300

23==============================================

From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:18:53 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau] Mozilla/Warpzilla

My Application Service Provider, (ASP), has suggested I use the Mozilla
release 0.9.8
What will this do that the IBM Browser won't?
What bugs are in Mozilla?
Were does Warpzilla fit-in?

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
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From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:37:25 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau] Japanese Characters in NS4.61 mail

Hi,
How do you show Japanese characters in NS4.61 mail?
The subject header is OK, but the body isn't.
An incoming email header says its character set:
ISO-2022-JP

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:57:52 +0100
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Feature Installer

Daryl Pilkington schreef:

> Thanks Kris,
>
> Err, what MPTS are you running?
> I get:
> inetver
> Version numbers of TCP/IP protocol drivers:
>    SOCKETS.SYS: 6.2004
>    AFOS2.SYS:   6.2000
>    AFINET.SYS:  6.2013
>

Here it shows:

Y:\>inetver
Version numbers of TCP/IP protocol drivers:
   SOCKETS.SYS: 6.3000
   AFOS2.SYS:   6.3000
   AFINET.SYS:  6.3001

>
> This is essentially WR08621 aka TCP/IP 4.21?
> I'm thinking I should go up to TCP/IP 4.3?
>

Keep in mind, as I told already, I never had installed the things the IBM way. I just
unzipped the "upgrade" files to a temp directory, and from there on copied to the
appropriate directory. Just a few dir *.dll /s and you should know what to do.

>
> I also noticed you have classpath, lib, I do not as I am running the
> runtime.
> Is classpath, lib required if running the runtime?
>

classpath is a java11 thing, an unkbown "feature" by java13. Java13 works mainly by
means of plugins and hardcoded paths. That's why you don't have much other choice than
to install \java13 into the root of the boot.

>
> What do:
> npjava.dll

Enables java13 for ns461

>
> npoji6.dll
>

Enables java13 for Mozilla/Warpzilla.

>
> Do for me?
> They are something for Java support in the respective browsers?
> I don't have npjava.dll on my system, but I do have:
> f:\os2web\plugins\npoj16.dll
>

Sure the "1" isn't an "i" (waaai)?

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Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:01:58 +0100
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Mozilla/Warpzilla

Daryl Pilkington schreef:

> My Application Service Provider, (ASP), has suggested I use the Mozilla
> release 0.9.8
> What will this do that the IBM Browser won't?

You can point the cache to a RamFS station, which is a MAJOR relief. You need the
latest nighty 098 however. The official 098 doens't support this feature yet.

Also don't forget to replace nspr4.dll by the fixed one in bsd_nspr.zip .

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Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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From: "Frank Bendon" <frankbenatinternode.on dot net>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:52:30 +0000
Subject: [os2genau] Boot CD

Hi,
Hi

Has anyone come across a procedure for producing a bootable CD from the Warp4 installation (boot) disks?

Cheers
Frank Bendon

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From: "David Forrester" <davidforatterrigal dot net dot au>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 23:42:26 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Mozilla/Warpzilla

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:18:53 +1100 (EDT), Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>My Application Service Provider, (ASP), has suggested I use the Mozilla
>release 0.9.8
>What will this do that the IBM Browser won't?
>What bugs are in Mozilla?
>Were does Warpzilla fit-in?

In reverse order:

- Warpzilla is the name give to the OS/2 port of Mozilla.
- There are probably lots of bugs in Mozilla, but a lot less than in
IBM Browser.
- Crash or hang less often :)

The explanation to this is that the IBM Browser and Warpzilla come from
the same source tree and are being developed/ported by the same people.
 But, they are at different versions.  The IBM Browser is at either
0.9.4.1 or 0.9.6.  As I understand it, IBM is releasing versions to
match with Netscape.  So it should be about the same as Netscape 6.2. 
Same features, same bugs :)

Warpzilla is taken from the current source tree of Mozilla.  0.9.8 is
the latest milestone release.  Warpzilla 0.9.8 was released within 48
hours of the Windows and Linux versions.  And everyday there are two
builds with from the latest source if you want to try them.  I'm
running a nightly build from 27/2.   And I can't fault it.  

As to what's in Warpzilla that isn't in the current IBM Browser, the
obvious things that I can think of are:
- Tabbed browsing
- The enable java script option has been divided into a few options, so
you can keep Javascript on, but do things like stopping a page from
opening other windows (ie. no popups!) or changing the status bar text.
 
- less bugs, or did I say that before :)

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