Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 273
From: "Digest" <newsatos2site dot com>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" <deadmail>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 01:00:00 +1100 (EDT)

Date:- 12 February 2002

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From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 00:31:54 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] SmartCache, Squid, N461

SmartCache sounds interesting David,
I like the sound of its junk-banner filtering.

Any tips on setting it up?
What sort of processor would be required to run it?

I'm looking to use it with InJoy running NAT to provide a nice Internet
gateway solution.

NAT for most things, SmartCache for http proxy.
I'm using InternetGate at the moment & support from the developer is
non-existent, (I don't get replies to emails), & its not that good
anyway.

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 06:31:48 +1100
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] SmartCache, Squid, N461

Has anyone tried M$ Portrait with Smartcache ? M$ Portrait is M$ Japans
cut down video conferencing program, which givewn a HTTP proxy, is 
supposed to only need one port through the firewall (80, which is open
anyway). Even without the HTTP proxy, it uses fixed ports rather than
dynamic ones, that M$ Netmeeting does, making it effectively impossible
to use behind a firewall.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> SmartCache sounds interesting David,
> I like the sound of its junk-banner filtering.
> 
> Any tips on setting it up?
> What sort of processor would be required to run it?
>

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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:06:09 
From: Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] SmartCache, Squid, N461

** Reply to note from "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com> Mon, 11 Feb 2002 00:31:54 +1100 (EDT)

> What sort of processor would be required to run it?

I tried it quite a while back,. it's GUI-less Java app, took next to
nothing to run.

Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 

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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 14:13:53 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] SmartCache, Squid, N461 [os2genau] Other Password questions (KMM44281428C0KM)

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:31:35 +1100, voytek wrote:

>On Sat, 09 Feb 2002 23:29:25 +1100 (EDT), John Angelico wrote:
>
>>A different support person explained the symptoms better and pointed me to
>>the source of the problem: my local cache (using Smart Cache).  
>
>are you using SmartCache *instead* of N461's own cache ?
>is it: a little ? a lot better ?
>I don;t have SmartCache, but, use Squid on the LAN, should I disable N461's cache, and, just use Squid ?
>
>or, should I run SmartCache on my own PC, fed from my Squid ?

Hi Voytek.

I am not running a server, or permanently online - only a dial-up.

I run SC and switch off NS disck cache. MUCH better, even though it's pure
Java.

Get it from Hobbes and have a look - It can run with other caches but I
haven't done that. My ISP doesn't proxy at the moment.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
--------------------------------------------

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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 14:16:33 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] SmartCache, Squid, N461

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:06:09, Voytek Eymont wrote:

>** Reply to note from "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com> Mon, 11 Feb 2002 00:31:54 +1100 (EDT)
>
>
>> What sort of processor would be required to run it?
>
>I tried it quite a while back,. it's GUI-less Java app, took next to
>nothing to run.

I'm running a whole lot of stuff here on a P166 processor, ET6000 video,
plenty of disk, and a humble 33.6 modem connection.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
--------------------------------------------

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From: "amoht" <amohtatozemail dot com dot au>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 20:28:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP Deskjet Drivers

On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:24:32 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
>amoht schreef:
>>  Can I assume that if there is an OMNI driver for say a HP Deskjet in the 900 series that it will work for all
>> Deskjets in the 900 series?
>>
>
>It works for all of the 900 printers able to print to Dos. That are:
>
>Hp 920c
>HP 940c
>HP 960c
>HP 970cxi
>HP 980cxi
>HP 990cxi
>Hp 1200c
>
>So it won't work out well with the HP 995c. Albeit the latter only seems available in Europe.

Kris I checked the IBM device driver site and it only mentions the Deskjet 970 and Deskjet 990c. Are you 
sure the OMNI driver supports the Deskjet 960C as I am able to buy one here in Australia?

Alan Duval

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From: "David Forrester" <davidforatterrigal dot net dot au>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:26:37 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] SmartCache, Squid, N461

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 00:31:54 +1100 (EDT), Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>SmartCache sounds interesting David,
>I like the sound of its junk-banner filtering.
>
>Any tips on setting it up?

It's pretty simple:
- unzip it into a directory
- copy the sample configuration files into this directory
- Modify scache.cnf to set the "CacheRoot" to wherever you want the
actual cache store.
- If other machines are going to be using the cache, change BindAddress
to the IP address of the machine running SmartCache.
- start it with:
	java -ms1m scache
- Configure your browser to point to the machine that's running it (or
127.0.0.1 for the same machine) and port 8080.

There are reasonably good instructions in the configuration files for
what else should be done.  All I have done is:
- changing the names that are displayed if something goes wrong.
- added a few "nocache" entries
- added a few things to fail.cnf to bar a few more ad sites
- set the size of my cache in gc.cnf

Also, the latest versions has a Rexx control script (start, stop,
garbage collection, etc) that looks pretty good.  I haven't gotten
around to testing them, but will soon.

>What sort of processor would be required to run it?

It running on a Pentium Pro 200 with 96MB of memory.  This is my
server/gateway and there isn't a monitor plugged in.  It is the file
server for my network, runs InJoy dialer, and also has Apache and FTP
(only to my local machines), SETIatHome and DTOC running on it. 
Performance of it all seems great.  And until the monitor died, PMMail
and Netscape was OK on it as well.

>
>I'm looking to use it with InJoy running NAT to provide a nice Internet
>gateway solution.
>
>NAT for most things, SmartCache for http proxy.
>I'm using InternetGate at the moment & support from the developer is
>non-existent, (I don't get replies to emails), & its not that good
>anyway.

Is InternetGate the one that will proxy just about anything?  From
MaccaSoft or someone like that?  If so, I remember trying it before
getting InJoy.  At first glance, I was impressed, but, I don't think it
worked well either.  InJoy with NAT seems to works a lot better. 
Adding in SmartCache gets it pretty near perfect.

--
David Forrester
davidforatterrigal dot net dot au
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:55:10 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Dual Boot

Hi ed

Of course the Virtual PC option  would be great and more than acceptable. Your 
email suggests that the product is either released or about to be released??  
Happy to  buy and try as I basically have a second HD for my Thinkpad on which I 
do all my fiddling !!  Do you know its status? Have you been to  Europe and seen it 
in action?

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:10:51 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>W2k professional or server ?
>
>Either way, I'd install W2k first, leaving say half of the drive as
>freespace, then insdtall boot manager at the end of the drive and
>last of all OS/2 Warp 4.
>
>As you know, you'll need to consider file systems. If you want security
>and user disk quotas, compression or file encryption you'll have to go
>with NTFS on the W2k partition. Although Microsoft don't advertise it,
>it appears that HPFS is still recognised by W2k as it is mentioned in
>some W2k training I am doing. So if yoy don't need any of the "special
>features" of NTFS, then HPFS could be a winner for you.
>
>The Warp partition should of course be HPFS.
>
>If you have to go with NTFS for W2K, then, if you want to exchange data
>between the two OS environments, then you'll need a FAT data transfer
>partition, but keep this below 2 GB in size otherwise W2k will want to
>make it into FAT32.
>
>You may experience problems betwwen W2k's Disk manager and LVM if you
>either change to Dynamic drives undfer W2k or use JFS under Warp, so
>you'd probably better avoid both of these.
>
>Since you are buying licences for both W2k and Warp, another option
>could be Virtual PC. Either with OS/2 as the host and W2k as the guest
>or the other way around. I think Virtual PC is supposed to cost around
>US$ 100.
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>
>Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
>> 
>> I am about to attempt to set up a  laptop with W2000 and Warp 4.5....
>> 
>> any helpful comments and suggestions, warnings etc gratefully received!
>> 
>> is it possible with Boot Manager?  other choices?
>>
>

Graham Norton
President
OS2 Users Group SA

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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:43:31 +0100
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP Deskjet Drivers

amoht schreef:

> Kris I checked the IBM device driver site and it only mentions the Deskjet 970 and Deskjet 990c. Are you
> sure the OMNI driver supports the Deskjet 960C as I am able to buy one here in Australia?
>

Sure for 100 % . My money-back guarantee. :-)

In the end, the 960 is exactly the same as the 970 but for one thing: the 970 has 2 Mb memory on board, the 960 has 8
Mb.
Incidentally, I'm running here a HP 980 Cxi with "970" drivers.

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:50:18 +0100
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Dual Boot

Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist schreef:

> Hi ed
>
> Of course the Virtual PC option  would be great and more than acceptable. Your
> email suggests that the product is either released or about to be released??

The second beta was delivered early of January, and the GA is planned for the 1st
quarter 2002.

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:13:36 +1000
From: "Mike O'Connor" <mikeocataustarnet dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Dual Boot

Hi David, Bob,
Re: XOSL - I downloaded v1.1.2 (the last "other OSs" version) and wondered if that's
the version you are using David?  Only problems with it I found were that to boot a
logical partition (OS/2 of course), I had to use the "original [IBM BM] MBR",
otherwise I had a non-functioning boot - black screen - and one cannot nominate what
the boot drive-letter will be ('a la' System Commander). My XOSLOS logical
partition(78h) is a single cylinder- up around cylinder 2000. I didn't try any of the
M$-only later versions (yet).
Re:Air-Boot - v0.27b was the most recent(29 Jan) released, but the news page said that
0.28b would cater for the [LVM?]/BM method of determination of BIOS INT13 extensions
support.  I haven't got around to trying 0.26b yet, but hope to do so in the next few
days.
Regards,
Mike
David Forrester wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:37:42 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:
>
> >
> >>
> >> That's right.  Or use a different boot manager.  Currently, my vote
> >> goes to XOSL (see www.xosl dot org).
> >>
> >
> >Any particular reason why?
>
> I stopped using BootManager because it didn't handle Win95 on a FAT32
> partition properly.  I've forgotten the exact problem, and I think it's
> been fixed with one of the Fixpacks.  I tried GAG for a while.  It
> worked, but I was never happy with it.  Then I found XOSL (I think
> someone on OS2User list mentioned it).  The things that I like about it
> are:
>
> - it's by far the best looking boot manager I've seen (unimportant,
> but, it made me keep looking at it)
> - can use a mouse during the boot and configuration
> - configured from within itself
> - hiding/unhiding partitions for each boot option
> - can boot just about anything from just about anywhere
> - sending extra keystrokes as the boot starts (eg. I have a boot option
> that sends ALT-F1 when starting OS/2, or another to send F8 when
> starting Win2000).
> - Its free
>
> The only problem I can see is that it doesn't fit into the MBR.  It
> either has its own partition (primary or logical), or can be installed
> in an existing FAT partition.
>
> Of course, the main reason I'm using it now, is because it's installed,
> it works and I don't feel like messing around with my system in that
> way.  There's far to many other ways to stuff it up.  And some of them
> are fun :)
>
> --
> David Forrester
> davidforatterrigal dot net dot au
> http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/
>