Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 271
From: "Digest" <newsatos2site dot com>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" <deadmail>
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 01:00:00 +1100 (EDT)

Date:- 10 February 2002

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From: "steve" <steveatedmondsfamily.co.nz>
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 09:29:16 +1300
Subject: Re: [os2genau] samba

Yes.
I have a pretty restrictive screwed down install.
Suits our small Co. ok.

steve

On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 16:51:18 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Be VERY careful regarding Systematic Attack !  Samba is not nearly 
>as secure as OS/2, or even Windows 2000 !  (The guys in Canberra are
>working on improving the security features of Samba on Linux). 
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>Trevor Clarke wrote:
>> 
>> How's it taking its forced redundancy?
>> 
>>         -----Original Message-----
>>         From:   Steve Edmonds [SMTP:steveatedmondsfamily.co.nz]
>>         Sent:   Friday, February 08, 2002 9:59 AM
>>         To:     os2genauatos2 dot org dot au
>>         Subject:        [os2genau] samba
>> 
>>         Hi,
>>         just an update on progress. I now have my samba server acting as
>>         the primary domain controller. Lan/Warp server was wound down
>>         yesterday after 5 years and there don't seem to be any glitches
>>         with OS/2 domain logons or resource assignments.
>> 
>>         steve
>>         _______________
>>         Steve Edmonds
>>         Steve71atattglobal dot net
>> 
>> 

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From: "Gavin Miller" <drumextremeatimpulse dot net dot au>
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 09:42:42 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP Deskjet Drivers

Hi Alan,

Have you already purchased the HP?  If not, have a look at the canon S800.  
Reasonably high resolution and separate ink cartridges for each colour; a huge plus.  
And it's included in IBM's omni driver as well as other S series printers: S400, S450, 
S4500 (but not the S600.  Watch out for this.  The S600 and S800 are almost the same 
printer.  The 600 is best for an all round printer, the 800 is best for photos and has a 
slower text print rate, but don't count on the driver working properly for the S600..... I can't 
confirm this though.)

Bottom line is to get the best printer you can afford, from a brand you trust and that you 
know is included in the Omni driver or supported directly from the company.  Even 
though they are more expensive,  get a printer with separate ink cartridges.  That way if 
one colour runs out, you don't have to waste the others replacing it.  I like Canon 
because I've never had any trouble with them (I have with HP's ...... which is why I have 
never bought one :-) )

Hope this helps a bit.

Cheers
Gavin

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Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 00:47:09 +0100
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP Deskjet Drivers

Gavin Miller schreef:

> because I've never had any trouble with them (I have with HP's ...... which is why I have
> never bought one :-) )

In what way can you have troubles with HP if you never have bought one?

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 12:02:39 +1100
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP Deskjet Drivers

I still like the Epson series, but since they just changed model
numbers, check for supported models before purchasing. I am very
happy with my 2880dpi Epson Stylus Color 680.

Cheers/2
Ed.

Gavin Miller wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> Have you already purchased the HP?  If not, have a look at the canon S800.
> Reasonably high resolution and separate ink cartridges for each colour; a huge plus.
> And it's included in IBM's omni driver as well as other S series printers: S400, S450,
> S4500 (but not the S600.  Watch out for this.  The S600 and S800 are almost the same
> printer.  The 600 is best for an all round printer, the 800 is best for photos and has a
> slower text print rate, but don't count on the driver working properly for the S600..... I can't
> confirm this though.)
> 
> Bottom line is to get the best printer you can afford, from a brand you trust and that you
> know is included in the Omni driver or supported directly from the company.  Even
> though they are more expensive,  get a printer with separate ink cartridges.  That way if
> one colour runs out, you don't have to waste the others replacing it.  I like Canon
> because I've never had any trouble with them (I have with HP's ...... which is why I have
> never bought one :-) )
> 
> Hope this helps a bit.
> 
> Cheers
> Gavin
> 

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From: "Gavin Miller" <drumextremeatimpulse dot net dot au>
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 11:52:34 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP Deskjet Drivers

On Sat, 09 Feb 2002 00:47:09 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>In what way can you have troubles with HP if you never have bought one?
>

At the office.  They work one day, not work the next.  I've spent many hours updating 
drivers and replacing cables.  All to no avail.  I will admit that I have not used any HP on 
OS/2.  All the problems were with Windoze (no suprise there) and Mac.  We now only 
have one HP in opperation now (out of 5) and that's an old Deskjet 400 hooked up to a 
DOS box.

Cheers
Gavin

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Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 12:36:27 +1100
From: Peter <pgcatsub dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP Deskjet Drivers

Gavin Miller wrote:

>
> I've never had any trouble with them (I have with HP's ...... which is why I have
> never bought one :-) )
>

I've had a 690C for 5 yrs.   Never had a problem.

Peter

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Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 02:39:35 +0100
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP Deskjet Drivers

Gavin Miller schreef:

> On Sat, 09 Feb 2002 00:47:09 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:
>
> >In what way can you have troubles with HP if you never have bought one?
> >
>
> At the office.  They work one day, not work the next.  I've spent many hours updating
> drivers and replacing cables.  All to no avail.  I will admit that I have not used any HP on
> OS/2.  All the problems were with Windoze (no suprise there) and Mac.  We now only
> have one HP in opperation now (out of 5) and that's an old Deskjet 400 hooked up to a

Looks like you better should blame your office then. I've never encountered any problem with HP
printers, from the early Deskjet 500 till the 980Cxi, from an old Laserjet III till a Laserjet
IV and the massive A3 Lajerjet 4V. All of them worked and are still working excellent in OS/2,
and that's what it is about, isn't it?  I always took the pain to look first wether they are
capable to print to Dos, and I urge everybody to do the same. Windy (GDI) printers always are
trouble, whether it is HP, Epson, Canon, Xerox. Blame the one who made the decision to purchase
GDI printers.

Incidentally, as you've seen already, all but one (995c)  of the HP 900 series do work excellent
in OS/2 (and Dos and Linux).

So, imho HP is doing it right. For the sake of completeness, I have to add there are two caveats
for OS/2 users:

- You have to know you have to select the HP 970c (omni.drv)
- The Double-sided printing feature isn't available in OS/2  (It is in Winos2).

And no, I'm not related in any way to HP. Except for the fact I'm using now 3 HP printers on
different OS/2 systems.

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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From: "Gavin Miller" <drumextremeatimpulse dot net dot au>
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 15:52:14 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP Deskjet Drivers

Hello to all who are following this thread,

Just to clear a few things up.  I'm not telling anyone to buy Canon.  I just like them.  
Others like Epsom.  It's just a personal choice thing.  I not trying to start an argument 
over which is better nor am I trying to get peoples noses out of joint and I'm also not 
bagging HP's printers.  Kris is right, they do work well to DOS, and therefore should 
work well with the omni drivers (995 excepted).  My bad experiences with the HP's at the 
office have influenced which printers I would choose for sure, but that is in no way an 
Official verdict on HP's reliability.  Like I said in a previous post, choose a brand you 
trust.  I did seriously consider a HP printer when it came time to update my old one, but I 
found the canon instead.

Also these problems I faced were all on Windows and Macintosh exclusively.  The 
Deskjet 400 works a treat on the DOS box.  And I still believe it was the drivers that 
failed, not the actual printer, despite constant updates.

If it works and does what you want it to do, get it and use it, no matter what brand.

My apologies go to anyone who mistook my comments as a direct attack against HP's 
printers.

Cheers
Gavin

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From: "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptushome dot com dot au>
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 16:18:09 +1100 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP Deskjet Drivers and OMNI.DRV

Thanks to "NoZone" (?) on the eComstation.support.misc newsgroup,
who said:-
I use prndrv.exe from Keller (Faxworks Pro)
Works every time!

BobT reply:-
Great, this prndrv.exe fully shows that the earlier printer driver
installation in \os2\dll\Printers is not relevant to my functional printers
which are in \os2\dll\OMNI.

===========Quote on = PRNDRV.EXE piped to file===========

PrnDrv -- OS/2 Printer Driver Installer/Deinstaller
Developed by Keller Group Inc.
Copyright (c) 1991-1998 Keller Group Inc. All rights reserved.

Found PrintQueue 'Generict' PMPRINT
Found PrintQueue 'IBMNullP' PMPRINT
Found PrintQueue 'FxPrint' PMPRINT
Found PrintQueue 'HPDeskJe' PMPRINT
Found Printer 'HPDeskJe' LPT1 OMNI.PassThru,OMNI.HP DeskJet 500,IBMNULL
Found Printer 'FxPrint' LPT3 FXPRINT.Fax
Found PrinterDriver 'OMNI.PassThru'
                    'D:\OS2\DLL\OMNI\OMNI.DRV'
Found PrinterDriver 'FXPRINT.Fax'
                    'D:\PMFAX\FXPRINT.DRV'
Found PrinterDriver 'OMNI.HP DeskJet 500'
                    'D:\OS2\DLL\OMNI\OMNI.DRV'
Found PrinterDriver 'IBMNULL'
                    'D:\OS2\DLL\IBMNULL\IBMNULL.DRV'

===========Quote off ===========

So it looks like I can safely remove the \os2\dll\Printers directory 
and files completely.

Anyone else want to comment before I take the plunge.?
Also, does ANYONE have the same duplication of sub directories
that I have ie. \os2\dll\OMNI and \os2\dll\Printers..?

Regards,
BobT.

On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 21:29:26 +1100 (EST), Robert Traynor  (BobT) wrote:

> Hi Alan,
> 
> After replying to all of below, I now notice in eCS that I have 2 lots
> of OMNI.DRV files in 2 separate directories.
> Both are different sizes and dates.  Confusing.
> 
> They are in:-
> D:\os2\dll\Printers
> D:\os2\dll\OMNI
> 
> Anyone know which is the actual printer driver in use in eCS.?
> I have checked my old backup of Warp4 and it only has D:\os2\dll\OMNI.

   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au
 \_,--.x/ 

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Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 17:17:02 +1100
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP Deskjet Drivers

One other point on HP Printers - the hardware side, irrespective
of operating system:

If you connect to a HP printer via its centronics interface, make
sure you have the correct cable. No this is not a marketting plug
to buy the cable from HP !  The fact is, HP use wires in the cable
that several other printer manufactures don't. It is valid for HP
to use these, they are defined in the Centronics standard and ensure
that data is properly transferred. 

Cheaper parrallel cables don't have all required connections running
though - sometimes they only have half of the possible 25 cores
installed. These cables work fine with Canon and Epson printers and
some (but not all) IBM/Lexmark printers. ALSO don't forget the maximum
allowed length of a parrallel cable of 10 feet or 3 metres.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> 
> Gavin Miller schreef:
> 
> > On Sat, 09 Feb 2002 00:47:09 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> >
> > >In what way can you have troubles with HP if you never have bought one?
> > >
> >
> > At the office.  They work one day, not work the next.  I've spent many hours updating
> > drivers and replacing cables.  All to no avail.  I will admit that I have not used any HP on
> > OS/2.  All the problems were with Windoze (no suprise there) and Mac.  We now only
> > have one HP in opperation now (out of 5) and that's an old Deskjet 400 hooked up to a
> 
> Looks like you better should blame your office then. I've never encountered any problem with HP
> printers, from the early Deskjet 500 till the 980Cxi, from an old Laserjet III till a Laserjet
> IV and the massive A3 Lajerjet 4V. All of them worked and are still working excellent in OS/2,
> and that's what it is about, isn't it?  I always took the pain to look first wether they are
> capable to print to Dos, and I urge everybody to do the same. Windy (GDI) printers always are
> trouble, whether it is HP, Epson, Canon, Xerox. Blame the one who made the decision to purchase
> GDI printers.
> 
> Incidentally, as you've seen already, all but one (995c)  of the HP 900 series do work excellent
> in OS/2 (and Dos and Linux).
> 
> So, imho HP is doing it right. For the sake of completeness, I have to add there are two caveats
> for OS/2 users:
> 
> - You have to know you have to select the HP 970c (omni.drv)
> - The Double-sided printing feature isn't available in OS/2  (It is in Winos2).
> 
> And no, I'm not related in any way to HP. Except for the fact I'm using now 3 HP printers on
> different OS/2 systems.
> 
> --
> Groeten uit Gent,
> 
>    Kris
> 

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From: "amoht" <amohtatozemail dot com dot au>
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 22:27:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP Deskjet Drivers

Thanks to all who replied to my letter. I'll check out the readme in the OMNI.exe file and make sure that I 
choose a model that can print in DOS.

Alan Duval

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Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 13:14:40 +0100
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP Deskjet Drivers

Ed Durrant schreef:

> some (but not all) IBM/Lexmark printers. ALSO don't forget the maximum
> allowed length of a parrallel cable of 10 feet or 3 metres.
>

?? What I'm I missing now?? I have now a 15 m // cable attached to a Laserjet 4V, and it's still
working excellent. On an add-on PCI //-card as port 2. I had for a year the came cable attached to a
HP 970 Cxi, and it worked all the way excellent. I just swapped the printers last month in order to
make room at my desk.
It's an "expensive" cable of course. But as has been told already, one should spend his money on cheap
cables.

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 23:29:25 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau] Fwd: Other Password questions (KMM44281428C0KM)

OK everybody.

Here's latest on the battle between eBay and Netscape/me.

A different support person explained the symptoms better and pointed me to
the source of the problem: my local cache (using Smart Cache).  He said
check for ISP caching (close for a generic response).

So I added eBay to my Proxies "Do not cache" list and am about to try it
out. 

Tests revealed that what I needed was not the dotted quad address but the
..ebay dot com dot au (yes extra dot takes care of all their fancy domain prefixes -
called "full canonical domain names") 

So eBay does work for NS 4.61 - eventually. 

I still don't like Accept all cookies but I can switch it on and off in the
same session - a minor hassle.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
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Hello John,

Thank you for your email! We won't stop helping you until we can resolve
your problem.

John, adding ebay dot com dot au to your local "Not Cache" list is a good idea. 
Try adding the following IP address to this list:

216.33.157.128

This is the IP address of ebay dot com dot au.

John, I hope this fixes your problems and hope to see you on eBay soon!

Regards,

Leigh
eBay Australia Customer Support
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2002 21:37:52 -0800, eBay AU Customer Support Forms 
wrote:

>Hello John and thank you for your email.
>
>I apologise for having your concerns not addressed when you wrote in 
the
>first time. I am glad to assist you.
>
>Thank you for letting us know that you are getting the annoying "Your 
>browser is not accepting cookies" error message when signing in to 
eBay.
>
>
>We have found that some members still get this error, even when they 
are
>sure their browser cookies are enabled. After lengthy testing and 
>experimentation, we think we have found the reason and a temporary 
>workaround. I'll detail it here. 

[chomp]ed information - read and understood

>John, if your ISP is using a proxy server, you may receive the "your 
>browser is not accepting cookies" error message, because the proxy 
>server is actually not accepting the cookies. I know this is 
>complicated, but the solution is actually quite simple.

My ISP isn't using a cache but I have a local cache running (outside of 
NS)

>Even though your ISP's proxy server may not accept cookies, you can 
>change the settings in your browser so that you don't go through your 
>ISP's proxy server. That will allow direct connection to the internet 
>everytime, and if your browser is set to enable cookies, should 
>eliminate the "your browser is not accepting cookies" error. While this

>isn't the best long-term solution (because proxy servers ARE necessary 
>to better manage Internet traffic), it should solve your problem until 
>we can find any code issues on our end which may be contributing to the

>problem. 
>
>Here is how to change your proxy settings on your Netscape browser 

[chomp]ed instructions on Direect Connection - already eliminated as a
possible workaround.

>However, after 
>changing these settings, if you still receive this error, please do let

>us know so we can explore other possibilities. I do hope this helps!

I wil ltry specifying ebay dot com dot au as a site to "Not Cache" - do you have
a
dotted quad address to set up in my Cache Configuration, please?

>
>I appreciate your understanding and patience regarding this matter. And

>I hope to see you buying and selling at eBay. 

Thanks for the help so far!

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
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