Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 245
From: "Digest" <newsatos2site dot com>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:00:00 +1100 (EDT)

Date:- 3 January 2002

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From: "voytek" <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 00:22:11 +1100
Subject: Re: [os2genau] CD-RW works fine with latest UDF support .. well almost ....

On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 11:48:17 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>That this driver now works is significant, because with the fact that
>CDRW blanks are now under AU$1.50 to buy, this becomes a very easy
>way of working with CDRWs - no additional CD Burning software is 
>needed.

so, you can use CDRW (but not CDRs ?) with 'normal' copy/format etc commands, ? that's neat

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From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 06:34:17 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] LVM disc recognition

Hi Alan,
As Ed said, be *very* careful mixing partitioning tools.

For example:
Try using BOOTOS2 to FDISK a drive, (OS/2 Warp 4 FixPak 15), then
restore an eCS image known to fit within the FDISKed partition sizes.
It says there isn't enough space!

I actually think your problem is USB removable drive support is
installed.
From my notes for my 1st eCS install:

Change:
BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD
rem BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD
(Gets rid of phantom g: drive for USB mass storage devices)

Let me know if this works.

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 22:28:50 -0500 (EST), amoht wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have just replaced my 3rd IDE harddrive which I use for imaging my system. The previous was a 2GB drive.
>The new one is a 20GB drive. I used partition Magic to make four 2GB Partitions and then used LVM to 
>create volumes relating to these partitions. Now when I use LVM to look at this disk it throws up a message 
>
>" Physical disk  ( 4) :
>The partition on this disc may be corrupt."
>
>I can bypass this message by pressing "enter"
>
>Then using the physical view I note that LVM shows 4 discs instead of three. The 4th is shown as having a 
>capacity of 97 MB. As I have no such disc on my computer, how can I get rid of this disc and it's 
>corresponding message?
>There seems to be no option in LVM to do this. I even deleted eCM completely and replaced it with a 
>DriveImage copy from before I changed the disc but the same message occurs.
>
>I am not sure whether I had a floppy disc or a cd in the computer when I used LVM to make volumes. If I did 
>could LVM have recognised either as the 4th disc?
>It won't alter my ability to use the disc for backup images but it annoys me when something is not right.
>BTW the Java GUI version shows the fourth drive icon different to the others as it looks as though there is a 
>removable disc at the front so I may have had a removable disc in.
>

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

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Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 06:58:40 +1100
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] CD-RW works fine with latest UDF support .. well almost 
 ....

Hi Voytek,
  Yes - with CDRWs (CD-R's cant be formatted with tracks and then
data written into the tracks - thats effectively re-writing). However
as you will have seen from my other emails, (For my setup), it's not
100 % reliable yet. Could easily be the media though.

  I've now retested with Dani's IDE drivers (latest) and the IBM IDE
drivers (latest) and there seems to be no difference, so it doesn't 
seem to be these drivers that are causing the "internal error" problem.

  I'll buy a good quality 8X CD-RW disk and see if that fixes the
problem.

Cheers/2
Ed.

voytek wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 11:48:17 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> >That this driver now works is significant, because with the fact that
> >CDRW blanks are now under AU$1.50 to buy, this becomes a very easy
> >way of working with CDRWs - no additional CD Burning software is
> >needed.
> 
> so, you can use CDRW (but not CDRs ?) with 'normal' copy/format etc commands, ? that's neat
> 

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From: "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptushome dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 06:55:49 +1100
Subject: Re: [os2genau] LVM disc recognition

Alan,

When LVM tells you the  "partition on this disc may be corrupt" and says that the
size is 96 or 97 mb, it is refering to your ZIP drive.!

You CANNOT get rid of the message UNLESS you put a zip disk in the drive
before you run LVM.

However, DO NOT DO THIS.

Just live with the message and IGNORE it.!

Robert Traynor (BobT).
2 January 2002

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 22:28:50 -0500 (EST), amoht wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have just replaced my 3rd IDE harddrive which I use for imaging my system. The previous was a 2GB drive.
> The new one is a 20GB drive. I used partition Magic to make four 2GB Partitions and then used LVM to 
> create volumes relating to these partitions. Now when I use LVM to look at this disk it throws up a message 
> 
> " Physical disk  ( 4) :
> The partition on this disc may be corrupt."
> 
> I can bypass this message by pressing "enter"
> 
> Then using the physical view I note that LVM shows 4 discs instead of three. The 4th is shown as having a 
> capacity of 97 MB. As I have no such disc on my computer, how can I get rid of this disc and it's 
> corresponding message?

   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au
 \_,--.x/ 

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Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:08:04 
From: Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] LVM question: disabling/renabling BM

Hi there LVM experts:

how do you, with LVM:

transfer PRI/Active from BM to C: ? and, v-v ?

with FDISK, 'twas simple, but, I'm just not sure how to with LVM,

basically, I'd like to temporarily deactivate BM, so, system boots from C:
ONLY, install windoze, renable BM

Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 

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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 11:29:36 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Database Query Tool for OS/2

On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:53:32 -0500 (EST), Gavin Miller wrote:

>Hi John,
>
>OS/2ezine 16 Nov 2001..... That's where you might have heard about it :-)
>
Aha!

>Visualiser Query is now called Visualizer PE (Personal Edition) and is available thru 
>BMT Micro (for US$95)

Yes, that's it - thanks Gavin. Someone also gave me the url for it
www.visualizer dot com (Doh!)

>Cheers.... and Happy New year!

Happy New Year to all on the list from here too!

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
--------------------------------------------

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From: "amoht" <amohtatozemail dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 17:07:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] LVM disc recognition

On Wed, 02 Jan 2002 06:34:17 +1100 (EDT), Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Hi Alan,
>As Ed said, be *very* careful mixing partitioning tools.
>
>For example:
>Try using BOOTOS2 to FDISK a drive, (OS/2 Warp 4 FixPak 15), then
>restore an eCS image known to fit within the FDISKed partition sizes.
>It says there isn't enough space!

So far had no trouble and used Drive Image over the Weekend to restore eCS from an image without any 
problem.

>
>I actually think your problem is USB removable drive support is
>installed.
>From my notes for my 1st eCS install:
>
>Change:
>BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD
>rem BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD
>(Gets rid of phantom g: drive for USB mass storage devices)
>
>Let me know if this works.

My Config.sys already has that line as  remBASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD

I think Bob Traynor has the right answer.

Thanks for the help.

Cheers,

Alan Duval

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From: "amoht" <amohtatozemail dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 17:11:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] LVM disc recognition

On Wed, 02 Jan 2002 06:55:49 +1100, Robert Traynor  (BobT) wrote:

>Alan,
>
>When LVM tells you the  "partition on this disc may be corrupt" and says that the
>size is 96 or 97 mb, it is refering to your ZIP drive.!
>
>You CANNOT get rid of the message UNLESS you put a zip disk in the drive
>before you run LVM.
>
>However, DO NOT DO THIS.
>
>Just live with the message and IGNORE it.!

Thanks Bob. Makes sense to me as the icon for the 4th drive seems to be for a removable drive.
I'll live with it as the third drive is working OK.

Alan Duval

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Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 23:22:59 +1100
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] There's no substitute for quality !

Re: CDRW - UDF Operating System support in OS/2 -

   As I said I would, I have now bought a "High Speed" (6-10X)
CDRW disc to test, a verbatim. This costs AU$5.95 rather than
the AU$1.50 to AU$2.00 for the "no-name" makes, which are rated
at 4X max.

   This disc formats without problems. Check Disk finds no
problems and I was able to XCOPY 650MB of files to it without
problems ?

   Well could it be the speed of the drive (8X on CDRW) and the
other disks being only 4X ?  I don't think so as writing 650MB
took nearly 4 hours! This would make the drive 0.25X speed, not
8X !!  No it has to be the quality of the disc that makes the
difference. There's no way in OS/2's UDF support that I found
to control the CDRW writing speed, so I can't limit it to 4X
if I had found speed was the problem.

  Conclusion buy good quality discs and the OS/2 - Operating
System level CDRW support works fine.

Cheers/2

Ed.

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Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 23:34:17 +1100
From: Michael Taylor <miketatpcug dot org dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] There's no substitute for quality !

Ed Durrant wrote:
>   Conclusion buy good quality discs and the OS/2 - Operating
> System level CDRW support works fine.

We had the same experience at work with WinNT and Adaptec CDRW software.
No end of bad results and coasters galore until we started to use good
quality discs.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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