Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 218
From: "Digest" <ianatos2site dot com>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" <deadmail>
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 01:00:00 +1100 (EDT)

Date:- 30 November 2001

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From: "Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 00:18:32 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] InJoy Firewall

Hi Ed

>This appears to be a Linux only solution though - right ?

Yes, it is based on Linux, it is a Linux boot image that you create
a CDROM from, then install it onto a PC to use as your firewall.
As it has more people working on it, it is a better product in a
general sense than InJoy FW BUT if I wanted to leave some
servers turned on unattended for months, I would at present
still go with InJoy Firewall due to both its complexity, and its
robust nature, we are also waiting to see what direction Bjarne
is going to take the InJoy products in.

It's a very good product, and I would recommend it to anyone
why uses PC's with server software installed, of uses Windows.

I would of cause also recommend InJoy Firewall but we must
remember that each product has its strengths, and as to what
you use depends on your situation, not to mention the cash
point. Its a bit like printers, what you really need depends on
the use you have for it.

http://www.smoothwall dot org/gpl/home/
http://www.os2site dot com/sw/internet/firewall/index.html

Cheers
Ian B Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

The best way to accelerate Windows is at escape velocity.

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Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:09:27 +0100
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP640C colour printer & OS/2?

Brad Van Eps/NCO/CEtv schreef:

> Hi,
>
>      My wife is looking for a relatively inexpensive colour inkjet printer
> to enable her to output photographs in reasonable quality onto A4, however
> it has got to run under OS/2 Warp 4 as this is what we use at home.
> Currently we're investigating the HP DeskJet 640C and although IBM's online
> device driver page doesn't have a driver specifically for this printer,
> their OMNII driver seems to work with similar(?) HP models (610C, 660C).
> Does anyone had any experience running this printer with OS/2?

Do have an inquiry whether the printer prints in Dos or not. If Y, you are sure for 100 % it will print in OS2. iF N, you are 100 % sure it won't print in OS2.

(As the 610C prints in Dos, chanches for the 640C are rather slim imho)

btw: Your best bet now is the HP 920 C. As we are talking about photografs, aren't we?

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 07:12:52 +1100
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] InJoy Firewall

Ian, you also mentioned the built-in firewall that comes with IBM's
latest TCP/IP code - have you tried this out ?  I've read the redbooks
but didn't install it as it didn't give me the NAT capability that IJ
does. Now that there's freeware NAT support for OS/2, I might
re-consider a NAT plus TCP/IP firewall solution.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Ian Manners wrote:

> Hi Ed
>
> >This appears to be a Linux only solution though - right ?
>
> Yes, it is based on Linux, it is a Linux boot image that you create
> a CDROM from, then install it onto a PC to use as your firewall.
> As it has more people working on it, it is a better product in a
> general sense than InJoy FW BUT if I wanted to leave some
> servers turned on unattended for months, I would at present
> still go with InJoy Firewall due to both its complexity, and its
> robust nature, we are also waiting to see what direction Bjarne
> is going to take the InJoy products in.

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 07:24:20 +1100
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP640C colour printer & OS/2?

DJ640C DEFINATELy prints under OS/2 !  However as I said before, especially for
photographic quality - the Epson stylus Color 680 is a far better option.

Cheers/2
Ed.

Kris Steenhaut wrote:

> Brad Van Eps/NCO/CEtv schreef:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >      My wife is looking for a relatively inexpensive colour inkjet printer
> > to enable her to output photographs in reasonable quality onto A4, however
> > it has got to run under OS/2 Warp 4 as this is what we use at home.
> > Currently we're investigating the HP DeskJet 640C and although IBM's online
> > device driver page doesn't have a driver specifically for this printer,
> > their OMNII driver seems to work with similar(?) HP models (610C, 660C).
> > Does anyone had any experience running this printer with OS/2?
>
> Do have an inquiry whether the printer prints in Dos or not. If Y, you are sure for 100 % it will print in OS2. iF N, you are 100 % sure it won't print in OS2.
>
> (As the 610C prints in Dos, chanches for the 640C are rather slim imho)
>
> btw: Your best bet now is the HP 920 C. As we are talking about photografs, aren't we?
>
> --
> Groeten uit Gent,
>
>    Kris
>

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From: Trevor Clarke <TClarkeatslatergordon dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP640C colour printer & OS/2?
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:48:58 +1100

With all this chat about printers I am reminded that I am yet to work out
how to get an OS/2 printer to work under Win-OS/2.  Does anybody here know?
I remember that when I was on Warp3, I think the OS/2 printers just kind of
appeared as installed printers under Win-OS/2.  This has not been my
experience under Warp4 or Ecs.

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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:52:17 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau] OS/2 SIG Report Nov 2001

Greetings Gary (with copy to our SIG mailing list) .

Following is our last report for 2001.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
____________________________________________

Melbourne PC SIG Meeting Report
To: G Taig Features Editor PC Update
CC: OS/2 SIG Members
Report Date: 28 Nov 2001
Meeting Date: 27 Nov 2001
Report by: John Angelico (03) 9544 8792

As we wind down for the year, quite a few members were absent and in
all 15 people were present for this meeting, including new member Mr
Ken Hope, formerly from the Canberra PC User Group.
 
Latest Headlines
Serenity Systems has released Fixpack 1 for eCS (incorporating all
IBM-released fixes to the Convenience Pack), making it available for
download from the ecomstation dot com website by all registered users of
eCS. They continue to work furiously on the Demo CD and version 1.1,
intending these to be the main showcase of eCS to Windows users and
the media.

eCS and OS/2 developers continue to revive their interest and refresh
their offerings. The Lotus division of IBM has announced that
SmartSuite 1.7 for OS/2 is in progress, while the Java juggernaut
rolls on. 

More websites are being converted to "Sun standard Java" away from
"Microsoft version Java" - the latest being the National Australia
Bank's Internet Banking site which went live on Nov 19th, abandoning
the previous requirement for encryption keys and the MS-Java module
which handled them. Their site now uses 128-bit SSL session
encryption as do most other Australian banks. As far as I am aware,
the only major user of Public Key Encryption and MS-Java is the Tax
Office for electronic lodgement of GST BAS returns. 

OS/2 Basics.
Since all those present were well and truly confident of their use of
DOS sessions in OS/2 we deferred this topic into next year.

Desktop In Call
Just to demonstrate that Murphy's Law still affects computers more
than anything else, our demo of DTOC was derailed by technical
problems on my laptop, and complexities of trying to run an internet
demo via the MelbPC intranet. We therefore resolved to iron out the
bugs and re-run the demo at our next meeting in January.

We closed the meeting at 9pm with a scramble for some free "obsolete"
OS/2 software, even though we know that quality is never really
obsolete.
  
<report ends>

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From: "Gavin Miller" <digitaldreamsatdingoblue dot net dot au>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:33:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP640C colour printer & OS/2?

Trevor,

If there is a Win 3.1 driver, in most cases you can install that in Win-OS/2 and select 
LPT-OS2 as the port.

Brad,

HP make some good stuff.  Printers are not one of them.  Every now an then HP come 
up with a good printer, but not that often.  They tend to fail.  All of the HP printers I've 
used haven't lasted that long.  Having said that, I will admit that I know very little about 
the 640C other than that they exist.  If they are anything like the 660's at work, stay right 
away from them.

I've never had a problem with Canon.  The Epsom sounds quite good, but don't leave 
out Lexmark, who also support OS/2 natively and are quite cheap.  Do some research 
online and checkout IBM's driver site as well.  What ever you decide, DO get the 
highest print resolution you can afford (both x and y res's)

Cheers guys
Gavin

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:33:09 +1100
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP640C colour printer & OS/2?

Hi Gavin and Trevor,

  Indeed I had the same requirements which is where I came up with the Epson
as the best deal on both function and OS/2 support. A lot of the later Lexmark
printer's DON'T have OS/2 support. Don't forget, Lexmark is no longer part of IBM.

 Printers are a personal thing. I liked using my Deskjet 640C, it gave very few
problems. I like using the Epson. One thing that applies to all printers though is to
look at the price of consumables ! - The replacment ink cartridges. It may even
be cheaper in the long run to buy a more expensive model where you can replace
the colours individually at maybe $20 per colour, rather than going for the cheaper
printer, which when you use up say the blue ink, you're up for a $65 replacment,
to replace all three colours in the one cartridge.

By the way, I think I missed something in the original note - I didn't realise
windows 3.1 (win-os2) support was a requirement. It shouldn't be a problem
on any of the current common printers, however since hardly anyone uses
Win 3.1 now, it probably worth checking before buying !

Cheers/2

Ed.

Gavin Miller wrote:

> Trevor,
>
> If there is a Win 3.1 driver, in most cases you can install that in Win-OS/2 and select
> LPT-OS2 as the port.
>
> Brad,
>
> HP make some good stuff.  Printers are not one of them.  Every now an then HP come
> up with a good printer, but not that often.  They tend to fail.  All of the HP printers I've
> used haven't lasted that long.  Having said that, I will admit that I know very little about
> the 640C other than that they exist.  If they are anything like the 660's at work, stay right
> away from them.
>
> I've never had a problem with Canon.  The Epsom sounds quite good, but don't leave
> out Lexmark, who also support OS/2 natively and are quite cheap.  Do some research
> online and checkout IBM's driver site as well.  What ever you decide, DO get the
> highest print resolution you can afford (both x and y res's)
>
> Cheers guys
> Gavin
>

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:41:25 +1100
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] OS/2 SIG Report Nov 2001

Just in regards to your point on DTOC John. Daryl and I have
successfully ren Version 5 of DTOC over the internet, just 4 days
after the evaluation version was released by IBM Japan. It seems
a little slicker and Daryl tells me it doesn't expand his Swapper.dat
like Version 4 did.

Believe it or not Version 5 now supports additional operating
systems - as well as the premier OS - OS/2 Warp and the "well
we've got to cover it 'cos it's out there" Windoze, it now also has
a server version for Linux and the web client now optimises
itself if you are running from, wait for it ..... a PocketPC (WinCE)
or Palm Pilot (Palm OS).  Hmmm controlling a hefty OS/2
server from a Palm Pilot, seems a bit funny ??  Anyone got a
broswser running on a palm pilot with internet connectivity,
they want to try accessing with ??

Cheers/2

Ed.

John Angelico wrote:

> Melbourne PC SIG Meeting Report
>

> Desktop In Call
> Just to demonstrate that Murphy's Law still affects computers more
> than anything else, our demo of DTOC was derailed by technical
> problems on my laptop, and complexities of trying to run an internet
> demo via the MelbPC intranet. We therefore resolved to iron out the
> bugs and re-run the demo at our next meeting in January.
>

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:48:51 
From: Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] OS/2 SIG Report Nov 2001

** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au> Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:41:25 +1100

> Hmmm controlling a hefty OS/2 
> server from a Palm Pilot, seems a bit funny ??  Anyone got a 
> broswser running on a palm pilot with internet connectivity, 
> they want to try accessing with ??

I have been telneting from Palm to several, some hefty, some, quite OS/2
since few years ago; even from another PC, where I have RSM, I tend to use
telnet over GUI app...

still, I suppose a Palm GUI thing would be a nice novelty... before novely
part wears off...

Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 

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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:06:02 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] OS/2 SIG Report Nov 2001

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:41:25 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Just in regards to your point on DTOC John. Daryl and I have
>successfully ren Version 5 of DTOC over the internet, just 4 days
>after the evaluation version was released by IBM Japan. It seems
>a little slicker and Daryl tells me it doesn't expand his Swapper.dat
>like Version 4 did.

That's encouraging news Ed.

We seemed to have some funny lockups here with v4 - could they be
video related?
I got the modem card working again the next day of course (Murphy.
I'd like to throttle you!)

>
>Believe it or not Version 5 now supports additional operating
>systems - as well as the premier OS - OS/2 Warp and the "well
>we've got to cover it 'cos it's out there" Windoze, it now also has
>a server version for Linux and the web client now optimises
>itself if you are running from, wait for it ..... a PocketPC (WinCE)
>or Palm Pilot (Palm OS).  Hmmm controlling a hefty OS/2
>server from a Palm Pilot, seems a bit funny ??  Anyone got a
>broswser running on a palm pilot with internet connectivity,
>they want to try accessing with ??

Hey, that would be fun!!

But imagine a terrorist with DTOC controlling the NT on the
Yorktown...?

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
--------------------------------------------

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.... Windows '95? Sorry, I prefer OS/2!

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:28:52 +0100
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP640C colour printer & OS/2?

Gavin Miller schreef:

>
> I've never had a problem with Canon.  The Epsom sounds quite good, but don't leave
> out Lexmark, who also support OS/2 natively and are quite cheap.  Do some research
> online

Actually, you're in the market for an update too. Lexmark has given up on OS/2 since 2 years now,
and is absolutely unrecommendable.

We can argue about HP versus Epson ofcoz. Epson drivers are made in Japan (Big Blue provides the
omni* sources, the Japanese do the rest). Epson printers are excellent. Main problem: is the
printhead is blocked by stick (colour) ink, you do need a new printhead, and that costs as much
as a new printer.

That's why I do prefer the HP 9* series; *all* specimen of the 900 printer series except for the
HP995c do work excellent in OS2 (the 995c only is available in Europe, btw). And you can install
easily the win31 drivers in winos2. Only snag is: the double side print option only works in
Winos2 ( that is for the 960-970-980-990 and 1160).

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Subject: Re: [os2genau] InJoy Firewall
From: "Keith Bainbridge" <keithbatimpaq dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:42:10 +1100

Ian - all,

Smoothwall is a Linux OS dedicated to be a firewall - with most normal uses=
 taken out to aid the security

Another reservation though is that there is an argument brewing over who ow=
ns the copyright

:-)
Regards

KeithB

> Hi Ed
>
> >This appears to be a Linux only solution though - right ?
>
> Yes, it is based on Linux, it is a Linux boot image that you create
> a CDROM from, then install it onto a PC to use as your firewall.
> As it has more people working on it, it is a better product in a
> general sense than InJoy FW BUT if I wanted to leave some
> servers turned on unattended for months, I would at present
> still go with InJoy Firewall due to both its complexity, and its
> robust nature, we are also waiting to see what direction Bjarne
> is going to take the InJoy products in.
>
> It's a very good product, and I would recommend it to anyone
> why uses PC's with server software installed, of uses Windows.
>
> I would of cause also recommend InJoy Firewall but we must
> remember that each product has its strengths, and as to what
> you use depends on your situation, not to mention the cash
> point. Its a bit like printers, what you really need depends on
> the use you have for it.
>
> http://www.smoothwall dot org/gpl/home/
> http://www.os2site dot com/sw/internet/firewall/index.html
>
> Cheers
> Ian B Manners
> http://www.os2site dot com/
>
> The best way to accelerate Windows is at escape velocity.

Regards

Keith Bainbridge
PO Box 324, BELMONT, Vic, 3216, Australia
Phone  +61 3 5241-1881 or +61408-522-706
Fax  +61 3 5241-9887
E-mail keithbatpobox dot com

I can help improve your business cash flow.

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:41:19 -0500
From: Alan Duval <amohtatozemail dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP640C colour printer & OS/2?

The problem with Epson Stylus Color 680 is that it seems to go through ink at a fast rate as the cartridges are small. Also if one cartridge empties you can't switch to the
other to print . you have to have both cartridges with ink in them. Hence you need to have a spare black and color cartridge. Also you can't fill the cartridges yourself as
there is a chip on the cartridge to prevent this.

Alan Duval

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Go for an Epson Stylus Color 680 - works fully under OS/2 Warp, whether
> Parrallel cable or USB attached. Highest resolution is 2880 dpi (Apart from
> Color laser printers - you won't get better than that). Fully supported (by IBM)
> printer drivers that even include the maintenance (print head cleaning /
> alignment etc.) functions.
>
> It looks like it's just (this month) been replaced by the C60 model, so
> you can probably pick one up for a good price - I think mine cost me
> AUS$270 about 6 months ago.
>
> I used to have a HP640C (you can use the 660C driver as this is what it
> is marketted as in the US I think) - it's not in the same class for photographic
> quality printing. Fine for coloured barcharts etc, but not up to
> the standard of the Epson.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
>
> Brad Van Eps/NCO/CEtv wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >      My wife is looking for a relatively inexpensive colour inkjet printer
> > to enable her to output photographs in reasonable quality onto A4, however
> > it has got to run under OS/2 Warp 4 as this is what we use at home.
> > Currently we're investigating the HP DeskJet 640C and although IBM's online
> > device driver page doesn't have a driver specifically for this printer,
> > their OMNII driver seems to work with similar(?) HP models (610C, 660C).
> > Does anyone had any experience running this printer with OS/2?
> >
> >      Thanks for any advice!
> >
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> >
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From: "Alan Duval" <amohtatozemail dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Dialer
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:36:38 +1100

Hi,

I,ve installed eCS again and this time got Copyshop2 to work and have
installed all my programs. However I can't get IBM Dialer to connect to
Ozemail. I have all the same settings as before but after the modem dials
an error message comes up stating:

error : ((NETW) invalid fcs
error : (NETW) invalid protocol 7296

the connection then terminates.

On one occasion I ticked the  Status enable debug box and the Dialup was
successful, so I thought I had the answer but when I exited the program and
came back to it the same errors occurred and debug no longer worked.

Any ideas how I can get my dialer to work?

Alan Duval   <amohtatozemail dot com dot au>