Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:00:40 +1100 (EDT)
Subject:   No.19

Date:- 03 April 2001

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Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 00:29:44 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Power Consumption

Isn't interesting how things get twisted.

Yes I agree about the atmosphere thingy but my motives for the original
post were less noble:- the cost of running a computer 24x7 is *not*
insignificant.

I have 3 computers now that are 24x7 & probably more to come, being in a
share house, my housemates are questioning the electricity cost of
running computers 24x7. Quite a reasonable question actually.

They obtain benefit from the 24x7 infrastructure, for a mere peppercorn
rate, but there is no need to *waste* electricity when for little effort
energy consumption can be reduced.

Now our discussion thread scales to small business:- what if you've got
10 or 20 computers?
Buy a $25 timer during installation, save $50-75/year per computer.

Perhaps David's friend could loan me a recording wattmeter so I can
"read the bastard", & save a few electrons in ListServ posts.

Hell, if I can save $50-60 year on electricity, I can buy some great
bottles of wine!

> 
SNIP
> 
> Hmmm!  It is interesting sometimes to have a look at the crap some folk
> like
> to indulge in.  Perhaps they were not serious in this case, but all the
> same, if I wanted to find out the average power consumption of an
> appliance,
> I would engage a recording watt meter and read the bastard.  In the
> overall
> case, what really matters is the amount of energy units that are pulled
> out
> of the ground by the electric company and how many resultant pollution
> units
> that are released into the atmosphere as a result of their pursuit.  I
> somehow don't think that a few micro energy spikes on a computer are
> going
> to make a hell of a difference.
>
-- 
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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 07:50:04 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Power Consumption

Hi Daryl

>They obtain benefit from the 24x7 infrastructure, for a mere peppercorn
>rate, but there is no need to *waste* electricity when for little effort
>energy consumption can be reduced.

make one computer the server, use a P166 or lower as your
firewall.

Generally speaking, niether computer requires a CDROM,
or FD's, also, put plain ISA graphics cards in them, pull
out anything else (or disconnect) anything not needed
for normal operation.

None of my servers have CDROM's, and the only
cards installed inthem now are the networks cards,
only the firewall has a 1Mb SVGA ISA card, youd
be amazed at the savings in 24/7 energy consumption.

Also, you dont require a suped up machine for your
server, PII's, especially the PIII's below 600Mhz
suck a fair bit of juice. I find a good P166 or 486DX4-100
is more than up to the task, or are you runing WinNt ;-)


Cheers
Ian B Manners

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From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:39:37 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Power Consumption

Cost of ownership.
This is also a contributing factor in gaining popularity of the 
transmeta chips. If you can reduce the cost of ownership, why not.
(But if all people thought like this Bill would be broke). 

>Yes I agree about the atmosphere thingy but my motives for the 
original
>post were less noble:- the cost of running a computer 24x7 is 
*not*
>insignificant.

steve
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

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Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:26:19 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Power Consumption

Hi Ian,
Thanks for the tips.
Guess who's got a CD-ROM & floppy in their gateway!
My interim gateway is a Celeron 433MHz SCSI, (!).

I have an IDT Winchip 200MHz & PC Chips M571 motherboard earmarked for
the gateway.
The motherboard has an embedded 64bit GUI accelerator video, do you
think it is worth the trouble to disable it & put in an ISA card?

It will be using an 3Com 10MB ISA NIC to the ADSL modem & an Intel 100MB
PCI NIC to the intranet.

Servers

Ian Manners wrote:
> 
> Hi Daryl
> 
> >They obtain benefit from the 24x7 infrastructure, for a mere peppercorn
> >rate, but there is no need to *waste* electricity when for little effort
> >energy consumption can be reduced.
> 
> make one computer the server, use a P166 or lower as your
> firewall.
> 
> Generally speaking, niether computer requires a CDROM,
> or FD's, also, put plain ISA graphics cards in them, pull
> out anything else (or disconnect) anything not needed
> for normal operation.
> 
> None of my servers have CDROM's, and the only
> cards installed inthem now are the networks cards,
> only the firewall has a 1Mb SVGA ISA card, youd
> be amazed at the savings in 24/7 energy consumption.
> 
> Also, you dont require a suped up machine for your
> server, PII's, especially the PIII's below 600Mhz
> suck a fair bit of juice. I find a good P166 or 486DX4-100
> is more than up to the task, or are you runing WinNt ;-)
> 
> Cheers
> Ian B Manners
> 

-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

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