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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:14:28 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Toshiba Laptop Battery pack

Greetings,

I have 2 Toshiba li-ION PA2487U battery packs
1 with good cells in a damaged housing
1 with bad cells in an undamaged housing

I'd like to transfer the contents of one to the other.

Has anyone pulled one of these things apart?
It looks like it will come apart with a bit of care, but I'd like to
know how, I don't want to damage it.

Alternatively, does anyone have dead battery packs of this flavour?
Perhaps if I had a few that could be "sacrificed" I could then learn how
to refurbish them without destroying their housing.

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Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:02:54 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <lbuntingatcamtech dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] CD Audio playing problem

Hi All,

Any clues on this one.

I recently upgraded to a SoundBlaster Live card from an ISA SB Vibra 16
card and having uninstalled MMOS2, re-installed, then the drivers
(Sander Van Leeuwen's Linux port). However, using the build-in OS/2 CD
player or the one I have been using for years (CDinaBox) wouldn't work.
Keeps saying the CD is unattached and/or an rc=5010 error.

Having checked the hardware all seemed fine. Then I found a CD player
that does not use MMPM. Lo-and-behold -  music!! As expected the
hardware is cool.

Sound there must be some issue with MMPM/MMOS2, but where, what, how?

Thanks,
Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here -
http://www.cobweb dot com dot au/~pknight/clghs/

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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:52:26 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <lbuntingatcamtech dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] OS/2UGSA Hardware Meeting

Last Tuesday's meeting decided on having a hardware session on the 8th
April from 1pm to 5pm or so at ARPA, 84 Archer St. North Adelaide.

I'm just waiting on confirmation that the room is available. There is a
party in it the night before and there was some issue about whether it
was going to be cleaned up Sunday morning ar not.

So stay tuned - the last one was well attended with the room turning
into a mission control centre look-alike.
--
Leigh Bunting
Secretary
OS/2UGSA

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From: "Gavin Miller" <paxtonatiaa dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:42:47 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Installation

>one needs to keep the limit of  *all* the partitions to <2G and in general when I install 
>multiple OS I use Boot Manager

I agree.  I use a boot manager setup, as do most OS/2 multi-os users.

>then disable it having made the windowspartition 
>installable... then install the MS *first* then reactivate Boot Manager and  proceed 
>on my merry way  installing OS2 etc!!

Sure... but I think the issue is that you shouldn't have to.  If you can install Windows ME and Linux on the 
same machine without any hangs or failures, why not OS/2.  All variants from Windows95 thru to ME have 
made it more difficult than was necessary to install OS/2, from needing to set the OS/2 partition Startable using 
Fdisk (or the like), all the way to hunting down and destroying the boot manager partition (I believe this 
"feature" had to be removed from the beta before the GA was shipped).

Cheers folks,
Gavin

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Subject: Re: [os2genau] OS/2 in Perth
From: "Craig Brookes" <brookesatau1.ibm dot com>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:24:16 +1000

> from a fellow IBMer

I'm sort of an IBMer - contract and doing work for the Tivoli group, so
more red than blue at the moment.

> what's the level of interest in OS/2 in Perth. I believe
> the UG folded a couple of years ago when some of the members left for
> Sydney (IBM transfers again).

I don't really know.  The only group I knew of was the one you mentioned,
and like you said... it's closed.  I don't know anyone much else in Perth
and I have been relying pretty much on the overseas OS/2 web sites for
updates, news, etc, until I joined this list.

Not much interest in the office I work in.  Most machines are the sort
susceptible to the VBS viruses that come rolling through the place, with a
few OS/2 holdouts (well, the smarter people) in other groups that I know
of.

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:33:21 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] strange email goings on

Hi everyone

I'm hoping that someone will be able to put some light on this,
there is an email address 

msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net

that bounce back to me, generating 4 error messages for every post
to the list.

it appears to be generated by an as unknown email address on
this list, which must be forwarded on to some other email address.

The message I get back is from MAILER-DAEMONataol dot com
but with a header claiming it is from  juicer38.bigpond dot com

juicer38.bigpond dot com [139.134.6.95] appears to be a gateway
translater of some sort.

The total path taken is as follows

mail.
mail2.bigpond dot com <Claudes-Predictive-MailRouter V2.9c>
juicer38.bigpond dot com
mailin7.bigpond dot com <Netscape Messaging Server 4.15>
mta02.mail.au.uu dot net
omr-r06.mx.aol dot com
rly-na02.mx.aol dot com
air-na01.mail.aol dot com                  < DNS & mailrelay server>
msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net  <Final destination address>

Does anyone recognise this last address ??
This complete trail is returned to me in the
error message, and is definitly not normal.
Unfortunetly, due to juicer38.bigpond dot com
I've been unable to see to whom the email was
send to from the list, its dumped the email address
the list send it to, and replaced it with
msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net !!!

Hmm, MS U SuPPoRTCOMCMPTR :-)

It has also been happening since the list was setup, so
as you can imagine, is generating an awful lot of extra
email error messages for me.

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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:16:40 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <lbuntingatcamtech dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] strange email goings on

Ian Manners wrote:

> I'm hoping that someone will be able to put some light on this, there is an email
> address
>
> msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net

I received  a bounce with this address and this is some of the detail:

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
.... while talking to air-na02.mail.aol dot com.:
>>> RCPT To:<msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net>
<<< 552 msuspprtcomcmptr MAILBOX FULL
554 <msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net>... Service unavailable

--
Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here -
http://www.cobweb dot com dot au/~pknight/clghs/

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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:18:51 +0930
From: Greg Hicks <ghicksatihug dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] strange email goings on

Hi Ian,

looks like MS University Support Computer to me... who is that devilish fiend that did
that...



Ian Manners wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> I'm hoping that someone will be able to put some light on this,
> there is an email address
>
> msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net
>
> that bounce back to me, generating 4 error messages for every post
> to the list.
>
> it appears to be generated by an as unknown email address on
> this list, which must be forwarded on to some other email address.
>
> The message I get back is from MAILER-DAEMONataol dot com
> but with a header claiming it is from  juicer38.bigpond dot com
>
> juicer38.bigpond dot com [139.134.6.95] appears to be a gateway
> translater of some sort.
>
> The total path taken is as follows
>
> mail.
> mail2.bigpond dot com <Claudes-Predictive-MailRouter V2.9c>
> juicer38.bigpond dot com
> mailin7.bigpond dot com <Netscape Messaging Server 4.15>
> mta02.mail.au.uu dot net
> omr-r06.mx.aol dot com
> rly-na02.mx.aol dot com
> air-na01.mail.aol dot com                  < DNS & mailrelay server>
> msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net  <Final destination address>
>
> Does anyone recognise this last address ??
> This complete trail is returned to me in the
> error message, and is definitly not normal.
> Unfortunetly, due to juicer38.bigpond dot com
> I've been unable to see to whom the email was
> send to from the list, its dumped the email address
> the list send it to, and replaced it with
> msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net !!!
>
> Hmm, MS U SuPPoRTCOMCMPTR :-)
>
> It has also been happening since the list was setup, so
> as you can imagine, is generating an awful lot of extra
> email error messages for me.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> To Subscribe/Unsubscribe please go to http://www.os2site.com/list/
> ==============================================

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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:49:15 -0500
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] CD Audio playing problem

Sounds like a text book driver issue to me. (Driver incompatible with
MMOS2).

Leigh Bunting wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Any clues on this one.
> 
> I recently upgraded to a SoundBlaster Live card from an ISA SB Vibra 16
>  (CDinaBox) wouldn't work.
> Keeps saying the CD is unattached and/or an rc=5010 error.
>

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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:54:47 -0500
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] strange email goings on

Looks like someone with an aol account coming in via the bigpond 
Home ISP.

Do aol/netscape also have a free email service (like hotmail) ? 
In which case it could be someone connected via Telstra Big Pond
Home and using this web-email instead of the normal telstra mail
servers.

Thats my reading on it anyway.

Ed.


Ian Manners wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone
> 
> I'm hoping that someone will be able to put some light on this,
> there is an email address
> 
> msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net
> 
> that bounce back to me, generating 4 error messages for every post
> to the list.
> 
> it appears to be generated by an as unknown email address on
> this list, which must be forwarded on to some other email address.
> 
> The message I get back is from MAILER-DAEMONataol dot com
> but with a header claiming it is from  juicer38.bigpond dot com
> 
> juicer38.bigpond dot com [139.134.6.95] appears to be a gateway
> translater of some sort.
> 
> The total path taken is as follows
> 
> mail.
> mail2.bigpond dot com <Claudes-Predictive-MailRouter V2.9c>
> juicer38.bigpond dot com
> mailin7.bigpond dot com <Netscape Messaging Server 4.15>
> mta02.mail.au.uu dot net
> omr-r06.mx.aol dot com
> rly-na02.mx.aol dot com
> air-na01.mail.aol dot com                  < DNS & mailrelay server>
> msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net  <Final destination address>
> 
> Does anyone recognise this last address ??
> This complete trail is returned to me in the
> error message, and is definitly not normal.
> Unfortunetly, due to juicer38.bigpond dot com
> I've been unable to see to whom the email was
> send to from the list, its dumped the email address
> the list send it to, and replaced it with
> msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net !!!
> 
> Hmm, MS U SuPPoRTCOMCMPTR :-)
> 
> It has also been happening since the list was setup, so
> as you can imagine, is generating an awful lot of extra
> email error messages for me.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> To Subscribe/Unsubscribe please go to http://www.os2site.com/list/
> ==============================================

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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:00:26 -0500
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] The new Warpcast ??

I'm sure many of you, like I, miss the Warpcast, news service which
stopped a few months ago.

Well, I've found  site that seems to include many news updates of the
type that used to appear through Warpcast - check it out:


  http://en.os2 dot org/


I'm sure many of you already know of this site, but I for one hadn't
realised it had these up to date news items about OS/2.

Ed.

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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:42:52 +0930
From: Greg Hicks <ghicksatihug dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] strange email goings on

Ed,

yes they do... i sort of set one up then didn't really put it to use :)

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Looks like someone with an aol account coming in via the bigpond
> Home ISP.
>
> Do aol/netscape also have a free email service (like hotmail) ?
> In which case it could be someone connected via Telstra Big Pond
> Home and using this web-email instead of the normal telstra mail
> servers.
>
> Thats my reading on it anyway.
>
> Ed.
>
> Ian Manners wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > I'm hoping that someone will be able to put some light on this,
> > there is an email address
> >
> > msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net
> >
> > that bounce back to me, generating 4 error messages for every post
> > to the list.
> >
> > it appears to be generated by an as unknown email address on
> > this list, which must be forwarded on to some other email address.
> >
> > The message I get back is from MAILER-DAEMONataol dot com
> > but with a header claiming it is from  juicer38.bigpond dot com
> >
> > juicer38.bigpond dot com [139.134.6.95] appears to be a gateway
> > translater of some sort.
> >
> > The total path taken is as follows
> >
> > mail.
> > mail2.bigpond dot com <Claudes-Predictive-MailRouter V2.9c>
> > juicer38.bigpond dot com
> > mailin7.bigpond dot com <Netscape Messaging Server 4.15>
> > mta02.mail.au.uu dot net
> > omr-r06.mx.aol dot com
> > rly-na02.mx.aol dot com
> > air-na01.mail.aol dot com                  < DNS & mailrelay server>
> > msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net  <Final destination address>
> >
> > Does anyone recognise this last address ??
> > This complete trail is returned to me in the
> > error message, and is definitly not normal.
> > Unfortunetly, due to juicer38.bigpond dot com
> > I've been unable to see to whom the email was
> > send to from the list, its dumped the email address
> > the list send it to, and replaced it with
> > msuspprtcomcmptratnetscape dot net !!!
> >
> > Hmm, MS U SuPPoRTCOMCMPTR :-)
> >
> > It has also been happening since the list was setup, so
> > as you can imagine, is generating an awful lot of extra
> > email error messages for me.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To Subscribe/Unsubscribe please go to http://www.os2site.com/list/
> > ==============================================
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> To Subscribe/Unsubscribe please go to http://www.os2site.com/list/
> ==============================================

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:59:08 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] The new Warpcast ??

Hi Ed

>Well, I've found  site that seems to include many news updates of the
>type that used to appear through Warpcast - check it out:

The bulk of this comes from the Voice server.

To subscribe yourself to this list, send the following message
to majormajoratos2voice dot org

     subscribe news
     end

>I'm sure many of you already know of this site, but I for one hadn't
>realised it had these up to date news items about OS/2.

To many of use forget that others arent on some lists :-)

Cheers
Ian B Manners

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