minor list changes

[Jay West]

Der Mouse wrote...
> How does a 421 greeting banner fit into this?
Good question, and I'm not sure of the answer. I'll find out.

> But if you're giving up on retries, that rather badly breaks the
> assumptions underlying SMTP, and I care enough about list mail to be
> willing to go to some minor lengths to keep it useful to me.)
I'm certainly not giving up on retries. I just think it's excessive to allow 
7 days of tries, especially when most of those are to addresses that don't 
exist, or don't bother to keep their mailboxes from filling up to their 
quota.

> If that really is the concern, maybe make it a per-user option?
You're welcome to hack the mailman code and give me the patches. I need some 
time with other things besides this list for a bit, the past two weeks have 
been a little excessive. Sorry, I've been a bit grouchy lately.

> but if
> the actual reason is something more like "I don't have the time/energy
> to figure out how to do this"
Not something I'm particularly fond of admitting, but I have several 
customers who I maintain their bulk email systems for. On average, each of 
them process over 2 million outbound emails per week, all with Sendmail 
clusters. Hey, at least it's subscription based, so I don't feel so slimy. 
But my point is, I'm quite adept at handling multiple queues. I'm just a 
little worn out. "figuring out how to do this" is not the issue.

Tell you what... once I get the address list cleaned up so that the 
subscribers are known good email addresses, I'll set up two stage delivery 
with a different queue runner for "problematic target mailservers". Then 
I'll set the max time in queue back to a more "reasonable" level. But I'm 
sure I'll get lots of future questions about email order.

Regards,

Jay West