A new haul

Mike Cesari mcesari at comcast.net
Sat Feb 5 20:44:05 CST 2005


On Feb 5, 2005, at 5:47 PM, Tom Jennings wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, Mike Cesari wrote:
>
>> A particle accelerator could do it. (Think SLAC (Stanford Linear 
>> Accelerator)
>> or the Tevatron at Fermilab.) Low-level radiation (alpha particle 
>> emission),
>> but enough to alert site safety people and require enough DOT 
>> paperwork to
>> shield the device. Stuff like this generally sits for a few years 
>> until the
>> levels go down to background.
>
> But seeing how alpha particles don't travel far outside of a
> vacuum (what, 7cm? in air) I don't see how that does it. Short of
> being next to a damaged reactor core, eg. for a lot of neutrons,
> the only thing that could contaminate gear is a big leak, spray,
> dusting, etc of something radioactive.
>
> I do understand that "exposure" could mean essentially a
> "bureaucratic" exposure amounting to only a *potential*
> contamination, subsequent quarrentine, etc, but the posting did
> say that a PDP-8 was "radioactive".
>

I wasn't clear about the alpha particles: that is what the contaminated 
equipment
mostly emitted (Neutrons, too, but not much. Otherwise we wouldn't have 
gone anywhere
near the stuff). The computing equipment I'm familiar with (pdp-11s and 
various
vaxen) were close enough to detectors, etc. to be affected by high 
energy protons.
Now this contamination wasn't bad enough to keep us from servicing them 
(equipment service
only occured during a shutdown), but the powers that be would not have 
wanted this gear
to get out around the general public. Bad, bad publicity. A good deal 
of this is bureaucratic,
but nobody wanted to take any chances. DOE comes down like a ton of 
bricks if there's even
the *hint* of a safety violation. Especially radiation related.

But having said all that, there isn't much hazard on site, as long as 
you stay out of the
various beam lines when things are running. Yep, flinging protons 
around at 1.2 TeV causes
interesting things to happen.

I know I'm forgetting details, but I don't do that stuff anymore.

Mike




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