Further on India shipping (on topic)

[John Lawson]

   In 2000 we bought an SGI Onyx on eBay, for about $2K - from a reseller, 
checked out, warranted, with doc and OS...   all Ok. Had it crated and 
shipped air-freight.

   First thing Customs wanted was "Chartered Engineer's Certificate" on the 
thing, then the original (not copies!) invoices and sales orders for the 
machine and the various software packages.

   Now: the US does not have "Chartered Engineers" - this is a European 
position, and roughly equates with a certified technical appraiser. I 
managed to get hold of a report from a chartered engineer in Germany (for 
a piston-ring grinding machine) and doctored it up, then sent it to my 
freind in the US who is an appraiser...  who sent it back. No signatures, 
nothing really official, but still Customs insisted on it.

  We told them that the machine was used and had been refurbished, and that 
finding the original sales invoices was impossible.  They then spent a 
month 'researching' it - and got back to us with the inofrmation that they 
found that similarly-configured machines had sold new for about $345,000. 
So they happily informed us that the duties would be 70% of new cost. 
Ya'll can do the Math....

  It took six months of back-and-forth negotiations, recriminations, 
calling in favors, bribes, etc... the unit was finally valued at $14,000 
and they said we could pay 70% of that or they'd seize the machine for 
non-payment and scrap it, and charge us for the storage and paperwork 
involved.

   So we ended up paying $11,800 plus shipping for an already-old Onyx.

   This goes on every day there - one of the reasons that there is very 
little electronic 'surplus' or flea-markets - everyone simply fixes and 
maintains whatever they have for the longest possible time, rather than 
pay the price on new gear which includes the awful duties.

   This was originally instituted by the Indian Government in the late 40's 
- early 50's as a way to stimulate the infrastructure to produce and be 
competitive, but of course you know who *that* turned out..


  Cheers

John