Hewlett-Packard Terminals and Emulations Thereof

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The 700/60 and its variants offer basic VT320/VT100/ANSI/Wyse personalities;
the 700/70 and kin add multiple windows, sessions, and mouse support.

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As of June 2005, Boundless is selling the ADDS C1099A terminal
as a clone of the HP 700/96.

http://www.boundless.com/Text_Terminals/ADDS/ADDS_C1099A/ADDS_C1099A_Datasheet.pdf

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[2003 update]

Looking for a 'termcap' or 'terminfo' entry?  There are entries for
several HP terminals in the database maintained by Eric Raymond at:

    http://www.catb.org/~esr/terminfo/

==============================================

(August 1997)

Vicom Technology makes an HP2392a terminal-emulator package
that runs on Macintoshes: MultiTerm Plus

    http://www.vicomtech.com/mac.mtp.hp.html

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Members of the Interex user group can retrieve user-contributed programs
from a library.  For membership information, telnet to "interex.org",
login as "online", and fill out the information request query.

The "ARF" program can perform emulation of a Hewlett Packard terminal on
an Apple IIc computer.  Here is the Interex Catalog entry:

Number: 4255, Language: FORTRAN , PASCAL , A, OS: RTE

Contact: 
     DE MOMARK
     RUCA REKENCENTRUM
     GROENENBORGERLAAN , 171
     ANTWERPEN 2050
     BELGIUM
     Phone: 03 2180320

Abstract:
     This package contains a set of HP-FORTRAN procedures and a set of Apple II
Pascal and assembly procedures. The Apple micro is used as a terminal and can
receive or send text files (type > 2) from/to the HP-host through an
asynchronous line.

Additional Documentation....: all files are grouped
into file &ARF and have to be separated before use. 

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Block-mode emulation of HP2392A and HP70092 is found in the TTWin product of

    http://www.ttwin.com/
    http://www.turbosoft.com.au/

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HP 2621 terminals were extensively used at Columbia University,
beginning in 1979:

    http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/hp2621.html

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As of 2000-08-28, the following link reached a Web page about the HP 700/60
and 700/70 Display Terminals.

    http://qoa.external.hp.com:86/dev/hpwebcat/addons/ph700.html

    [August 2002: it's gone now.]


    Hewlett-Packard
    8000 Foothills Blvd
    Roseville, CA 95747
    Voice: +1 916/785-4363   (Technical response line for VDTs)
            1-800/633-3600   (General customer support)


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Chuck Fuller (oscsf@godel.pgh.wec.com) wrote:
> 
> We're thinking about using a DOS (or possibly OS/2) system as a console
> for an HP-UX system, and are in need of a terminal emulator for either of
> these that would emulate an HP 700/92, 700/94, or 700/96 terminal.
> 
> Can anyone provide a pointer to such a beast?

I'd recommend one of the Reflection Series of HP terminal emulators
from Walker Richer & Quinn.  They have an entire line of terminal
emulators.  They have DOS and Window's versions available.  You can
reach them at:

    1-800-872-2839

In fact, HP is dropping AdvanceLink and is now bundling WRQ's software
with some of their PC packages.


> Thanks
> - Chuck
> -- 
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From: franks@neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg)
Subject: Re: termcap entry


sbg@ka4ybr.com (Sue Gutkes KE4HNN) wrote:

> I am currently looking for a termcap entry for SunOS for 'hpterm'.

  See the information below.

> If anyone can help, please email the entry to me at
>   sgutkes@ntera.com.

  "please email" requests are considered bad Netiquette (because it
wastes the time of all-but-one of the respondents and leaves other users
in the dark). Because I am a nice guy, I am posting this response anyway.
:-)

> Subject: comp.sys.hp.hpux FAQ
[deleted]
> Subject: 6.13  What's a good termcap entry for hpterm?
> 
> Although it is not supported for hpterm use, the 262x entry in
> /etc/newconfig/termcap will work.
> 
> (Thanks to Frank Slootweg, HP)

  Note: /etc/newconfig/termcap is in the optional fileset PROG-AUX.

  From another (non-supported) source (slightly edited by me):

> You can make termcap/terminfo with the following steps.
> 
>   1. to make terminfo for hpterm
> 
>      hp% untic hpterm > hpterm.info
> 
>        copy hpterm.info to sun machine.
> 
>      sun# /usr/5bin/tic hpterm.info
> 
>        You will encounter a warning message.  But you can ignore it.
> 
>   2. to make termcap for hpterm
> 
>      sun% (setenv TERM hpterm; /usr/5bin/infocmp -C) > hpterm.termcap
> 
>        Append hpterm.termcap to /etc/termcap.


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Another question (and answer from HP-FAQ):

6.4 How can I put a title in my hpterm titlebar?

Here is a two line program that you might find useful:

/* Quick and dirty program to put argv[1] in the title bar of an hpterm
   Tom Arons March 1992
*/
#include <string.h>
main(argc,argv)
        int argc; char **argv;
{
        printf("\033&f0k%dD%s", strlen(argv[1]), argv[1]);
        printf("\033&f-1k%dD%s", strlen(argv[1]), argv[1]);
}

An alternative is:

#!/bin/sh
LENGTH=`strlen $1`
echo "&f0k${LENGTH}D$1\c"

In case in gets mangled, that's ESC between the first quote and the f0k.

strlen, in case you don't have it, comes from:

#include <stdio.h>

main(argc, argv)
   int argc;
   int *argv[];
{
   if (argc != 2)
      exit(0);
   printf("%d\n", strlen(argv[1]));
}

(Thanks to Tom Arons <arons@ash.eecs.ucdavis.edu>
and John T. Beck, [then] of HP.)


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From the HP-UX FAQ:

Subject: 6.3  How do I get a scroll bar on hpterms?

Set the following resources:

HPterm*scrollBar:       TRUE
HPterm*saveLines:       1024

or some other other arbitrarily large number.  To do this interactively, use
"hpterm -sb -sl 1024". You can also set these in an app-default file
(/usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/HPterm). You can also set saveLines to something
like "4s", which indicates four screens.

If you want the VUE panel terminal icon produce hpterm's that have
scroll bars, and also have their login shell run at the startup of
the terminal.  To do this you have to modify the default action of the
VUE panel.  The easiest way to do this on a system-wide basis is
to edit the "/usr/vue/types/xclients.vf" file. Change the line that says
"hpterm" to "hpterm -ls -sb -sl 400":

/usr/vue/types/xclients.vf

ACTION Hpterm
        TYPE            COMMAND
        WINDOW-TYPE     NO-STDIO
        EXEC-STRING     hpterm -ls -sb -sl 400
        DESCRIPTION     The Hpterm action starts an hpterm terminal
                        emulator.
END

(Thanks to Greg Cagle <gcagle@hpupora.nsr.hp.com> and
           John Kemp  <JohnKemp@uiuc.edu> )


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Subject: 6.10  How come I can no longer disable the caps lock key with xmodmap?

A common activity in the past has been to disable the, shall we say,
"placement challenged" caps lock key on the ITF keyboard using a simple
xmodmap script.  This no longer works consistently at X11R5/VUE 3.0; the best
solution so far:

In file ~/.vue/sessions/lite/vue.session:

/usr/bin/X11/xmodmap - << EOF
        clear lock
        keycode 55 = Control_L
        keycode 86 = Caps_Lock
        keycode 39 = grave asciitilde guillemotleft guillemotright
        keycode 71 = Escape
        add Lock = Caps_Lock
        add Control = Control_L
EOF

This works until logout/login, when Caps Lock toggles the control feature,
even though 'xmodmap -pm' shows that Lock has no assignments. You have to
restart the server to reset completely, which can be automated by setting the
value

Vuelogin*terminateServer:   True

in the file /usr/vue/config/Xconfig.

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The HP-UX Frequently Asked Questions compilation can be read in its
entirety from this URL:

    http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/hp/top.html

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Date: 11 Oct 1995 12:38:52 GMT
From: waters@polaris.net (Jonathan Waters)
Subject: Re: Any CUMULUS fans here?

In article <45e0nm$3b9@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>,
 vinegp@boat.bt.com (Graham Vine) says:
>
>These seem very useful terminals with their built-in features.
>Anyone else interested in them?

These terminals are Hewlett Packard Compatibles. They came from
a Silicon Valley company that may not exist any more.

I agree, neat features, but Caveat Emptor where you use them.

Jonathan

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From: waters@polaris.net (Jonathan Waters)
Subject: Re: Terminal Identification -Cumulus

In article <#nTwGH719GA.302@upnetnews03>, "kholguin" <kholguin@email.msn.com>
said:
>   I am currently using a terminal for the console on a 386sx16 running
>Linux.  After many hours of trial and error me and a friend were able to get
>this setup working.
>
>Has anyone herd of a terminal with the name "Cumulus"?  It is running as a
>VT100 and works very well, but I have been unable to locate any info for it.
>
>P.S.  Linux is AWESOME.  The total cost of the above system was $10.00, and
>it will soon be working as my gateway server to the Internet!
>
>Keith


        Cumulus was a manufacturer based in the Silicon Gulch.

        They made an HP compatible device from about 1987 to 1991. They put a
lot of time into creating ASIC chips to do the whole thing, to reduce costs.

        They raised money on the Vancouver Exchange to get the company going,
and it floundered while the founders drove their Mercedes.

        A good friend was their VP of Sales and Marketing -- he bailed out
very quickly.

        The founder, I think, was Steve Auditor(sic) who became a self-
proclaimed expert on X terminals after the Cumulus fiasco.

        Jonathan


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From: mlandin@superstar.com (Mark Landin)
Subject: Re: SPARC --> VT session  -->  MPE (w/o going through HPUX box)

In article <kgrayDnpByy.KHC@netcom.com>, kgray@netcom.com (Kerry Gray) says:
>
>Scot A. Richardson (cma-mkt@interaccess.com) wrote:
>: Hi all,
>
>:  I have a small problem that I am hoping that someone out there
>:  with MPE experience
>:  can help me with.  I have a UNIX lan with HP and SPARC boxes on it.
>:
>:  The SPARCs are new, the HPs are a couple of years old.  On the HPs I run
>:  a program called VT3K to log into the MPE box.  Problem is, I can't
>:  figure out how to get the SPARCs to run a vt session from the MPE box.
>
>Maybe I'm missing something here, but why not just use telnet?
>


To answer the first question, vt is part of HP's proprietary Network
Services package, so Sun probably won't have vt services available. 
If anyone knows that they actually do, please let me know immediately!

Why not use telnet? Well, vt is typically a better performing protocol
than telnet. Additionally, I'm not sure if standard telnet will support
HP's block-mode terminal processing, which is another HP proprietary
product. It's much more IO-efficient than character-based IO. But
again, I doubt Sun is going to develop software to support these 
HP things.

-- 
Mark Landin
mlandin@superstar.com


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Date:         Wed, 4 Jan 1995 11:47:09 PST
Reply-To:     frank@TWG.COM
Sender:       HP-3000 Systems Discussion <HP3000-L@UTCVM.BITNET>
From:         _frank@TWG.COM_
Subject:      Re: VT a thing of the past?
In-Reply-To:  Eero Laurila's message of 3 Jan 1995 20:09:07 GMT
              <3ecat3$dtr@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
 
Eero Laurila <eero@cup.hp.com> wrote:
>
>With VT, the same logon string is going to be 2 TCP packets over the net.
 
More like four, or maybe three if you can type that logon string
really fast.  Those TCP acknowledgements need to be sent somehow, and
you probably won't be able to piggyback more than one of them.  But
what's a packet or two between friendly hosts?
 
>If line mode can be used -or- if both VT and telnet are used to interface
>with an application doing 1 byte reads -- I would expect their performances
>to be close to each other and that's the best case for telnet.  I don't
>expect block-mode to work through telnet and VT is going to continue to
>have a big performance advantage there.
 
With the WIN/TCP for MPE/V Telnet server, block mode works just fine,
thank you.  (The client is another matter, but its hangup is mostly in
classic MPE terminal I/O.)  And guess what -- block mode is the other
place Telnet performance can approach VT.
 
Even when you're in Telnet's "character" (as opposed to Telnet "line"
mode), Telnet doesn't require that you send each character in its own
individual packet; if you can get a bunch of characters ready to go in
a reasonably short time you can do one big network write and get them
all out there in one (or more) large packets -- not too unlike a VT
read completion in terms of number of packets.  As it happens, HP
terminals (and emulators thereof) are pretty good at getting a bunch
of characters ready to go in a reasonably short time when they're in
block mode, so the real requirement is that you not have a boneheaded
Telnet client that insists on sending each character wrapped in its
own packet.
 
VT has two advantages over Telnet.  First, it forces the client to do
presentation details like echoing and line editing for edited-mode
reads, so that you don't have to waste your 3000 and/or network
dealing with it.  As a side effect it cuts down on network traffic.
Line-mode Telnet can do this too, but since line-mode is an option
(and not a terribly well-supported one as far as I know) any Telnet
server is likely to require local support for line editing facilities.
 
(Hmmm.  I seem to have forgotten enough about line-mode Telnet that
I'm really not sure whether all the little twisty passages of MPE line
editing could actually fit into it.)
 
The other is that VT (so far as I know) keeps its control information
somewhat more out-of-band than Telnet, and so it doesn't have to make
a pass through the incoming and outgoing data looking for special
bytes (as does Telnet).
 
-Frank McConnell, not speaking for The Wollongong Group
 <frank@twg.com>

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There exists a commercial product called "IX/92", a software emulator
for HP terminals.  This program runs under Solaris, HP/UX, SCO Unix,
SunOS 4.x, or Interactive Unix; it is especially useful for connecting
to a Hewlett-Packard computer running the MPE operating system.  It
has file transfer, NS/VT (network option) and scripting.  Contact

    Software Licensing Corp.
    Suite 280
    930 Tahoe Blvd
    Incline Village, NV 89451-9436

    voice: +1 702/832-0881
      fax: +1 702/832-0883
     WATS:  1-800/831-0882
      WWW:  http://www.slcorp.com/

(as of April 2002: still available)

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From: kludge@netcom.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Funny block characters on HP2626


In article <4lj494$gk3@maroon.tc.umn.edu> walt0101@maroon.tc.umn.edu writes:
>
>No matter what I use with this terminal, and decent speed text coming in 
>gets a lot of annoying block(dont know the ASCII assignment) characters 
>when they shouldn't be there. Anybody know hwo to turn this off? The 
>configuration for this terminal is totalyl cryptic.

Go to the communications menu and make sure that the receive buffering is
set properly to whatever your device is set for.  That block indicates that
a character was not received properly (there is no ASCII character for it)
probably due to buffer overruns.  If that doesn't do it, crank up the
size of the receive buffer.
--scott
-- 
"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Subject: Re: [Q] HP48GX Kermit <> MS-DOS Kermit 3.14 Transfers

In article <4ksoa8$f75@globe.indirect.com>,
Jim Monty <monty@indirect.com> wrote:
: [Article cross-posted to comp.protocols.kermit.misc and comp.sys.hp48]
: 
: I've successfully connected an HP48GX calculator to my MS-DOS PC via
: a null modem cable manufactured by Hewlett-Packard. I'm satisfied that
: the difficulty I'm having is not due to a problem with the physical
: serial connection (i.e., the cable, connectors, and plugs) or to a COM
: port/IRQ conflict.
: 
: I'm running MS-DOS Kermit Version 3.14 PL8 under MS-DOS Version 6.22.
: I've carefully followed the instructions provided on pp. 27-8 through 27-11
: of the _HP 48G Series User's Guide_ (Hewlett-Packard Company, 1993) and have
: read the pertinent chapters in _Using MS-DOS Kermit: Connecting Your PC to
: the Electronic World_, Second Edition (Digital Press, 1992). When I initiate
: a file transfer either by placing the PC in SERVER mode and SENDing a file
: from the HP48GX, or by placing the calculator in SERVER mode and starting
: the file transfer from the PC, it fails. The file transfer seems to start,
: but then retries several times unsuccessfully and eventually times out. I've
: experimented with innumerable combinations of I/O settings, but have gotten
: the same result each time.
: 
: Any clues or suggestions? I was unable to find any specific information
: about getting Kermit file transfers to work in the HP48 FAQ. Is there a
: generic "modem" configuration file available for setting MS-DOS Kermit to
: transfer data to and from an HP48-series calculator? As I've mentioned, I
: tried various combinations of communications and protocol settings and have
: carefully matched them between both the PC and the calculator. I obviously
: have not yet identified the magick combination.
: 
: Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
:
: Jim Monty
: monty@indirect.com
: Tempe, Arizona USA


This question comes up rather often, and I'd add it to our FAQ if I
actually knew the answer.  Below are several contradictory messages which
might or might not help.  The important thing to note is that some people
have file transfer between the HP-48 and MS-DOS Kermit working just fine.
Maybe the discrepencies in opinions and experience can be explained by
different HP-48 models having different communications characteristics.


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Date: 19 Mar 1996 21:56:26 GMT
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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Subject: Re: Problem with HP-48 and Kermit

In article <4imua9$7rf@news.internetmci.com>,
<0002016821@mcimail.com> wrote:
: I am having difficulty sending a file larger than about 12k
: to my HP-48 using kermit.  Any suggestions on why this might 
: be happening ?
: 
Using which Kermit?  Which version?

If it is MS-DOS Kermit (current version 3.14), you will need to
configure it specially for connection to the HP-48.  First of all,
the HP-48 doesn't support any kind of flow control, so tell Kermit to:

  SET FLOW NONE

Secondly, the HP-48 serial port is unable to receive characters for a
fraction of a second when it is switching from sending to receiving.
But since it does not support flow control, it doesn't have any way of
telling your PC not to send during that time.  So you have to tell Kermit
to pause after each packet.  Try one or both of these:

  set send pause 1000
  set receive pause 1000

The number is milliseconds, so 1000 of them = 1 second.  You might be able
to make it smaller, or you might have to make it bigger.

- Frank

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From: randyd@crl.com (Randy Ding)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Problem with HP-48 and Kermit
Date: 19 Mar 1996 15:25:48 -0800
Organization: CRL Network Services (415) 705-6060  [Login: guest]

In article <4imua9$7rf@news.internetmci.com>,  <0002016821@mcimail.com> wrote:
>I am having difficulty sending a file larger than about 12k
>to my HP-48 using kermit.  Any suggestions on why this might 
>be happening ?


You are not giving much info here.
Be sure to: set con p all
for transferrs to the hp48.
also be sure you: set flow xon

Tell us exactly what your settings are on both hp and kermit, and what
version of kermit you are using.

Randy.
randyd@crl.com


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Date: 27 Mar 1996 18:27:30 -0800
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From: randyd@crl.com (Randy Ding)
Subject: Re: Problem with EOF

In article <4jckum$6p4@news.internetmci.com>, <0002016821@mcimail.com> wrote:
>I have recently used version 3.14 to send a file to my HP-48.
>With flow control set to none and send pause = 1000, I was not able 
>to finish receiving the file on the HP-48 side. The pc screen
>shows 100% sent but the last 3 packets (more or less) never seem
>to get to the HP-48.

Actually, the hp does use xon/xoff.  
Also, you MUST set con p all.
Below is what I have always used, put it in your k95custom.ini.
Omit the line that says set protocol if you are using 3.14.
Don't need to mess with the send pause.

Note:  If the following does not work, then you have another problem..
       possibly with your cable or something.

; -------------------------------------------
; hp48 binary and text file transfer commands

; Macros for transferring files in text and binary mode...
define bsend binary,send \%1 \%2  ; SEND in binary mode
define tsend text,send \%1 \%2    ; SEND in text mode
define bget binary,get \%1        ; GET in binary mode
define tget text,get \%1          ; GET in text mode

define hpsetup,-
  set port com1,-
  set speed 9600,-
  set protocol kermit,-
  set flow xon,-
  set parity none,-
  set con p all

define bgethp hpsetup,-
  set file type binary,-
  get \%1

define btohp hpsetup, do bsend \%1 \%2
define tohp hpsetup, do tsend \%1 \%2
define frhp hpsetup, receive \%1

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Subject: Re: HP 2393A --WHAT IS IT?--

sebelt01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Random Q. Hacker) wrote:

>I recently purchased an old green screen monitor (HP 35731A),
>what appears to be an X-terminal (HP 2393A), and a printer 
>(HP 2673A) all for one dollar at an old equipment auction.
>Unfortunately for me, no cables were included, and the 
>video output on the main unit looks like BNC, while the 
>monitor has a standard RCA composite input.  I've hooked up
>the green screen to a vcr, but the video is overlapped several
>times left to right, not sure if this is something standard to
>the monitor or something that needs to be fixed.  If anyone has
>any clue as to what this box is, or the monitor or the printer
>(which I suspect is a serial thermal printer) please drop me 
>some email!  (Email please, since I am not here that often...)

>I also got some nice Tektronix terminals at that auction, color
>terminals that support vt100, ansi, and some tekxxxx standard.
>They cost me less than 5 apiece, and hang nicely off of my box
>when I run linux..

>Thanks for any help.. Later...
>Shawn (Random Q. Hacker)

Hello Mr Random,

The HP2392A is an terminal suitable for connection to a HP3000 (or
similar) host computer. I don't think you can use it as a monitor. It
connects via something called a 'European modem cable', which has more
pins. This is how we do it with our HP hosts, anyway.

Good luck.
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HGinsb3533 (hginsb3533@aol.com) wrote:
:
: I am looking for info on the HP 46030A keyboard.  It has a plug for an
: oversize telephone cable.  Does any body know what computers it is used
: on?

  This is an HP-HIL keyboard, used for many years on HP workstations.

  Being unique to HP (albeit a rather innovative design), it has gone
  the way of many good designs in favor of a less agile solution (albeit
  pervasive usage): the PC keyboard interface.

  HIL was rather nifty in that you could daisy chain a mouse, a button box,
  even a track ball or two, all on the same single interface wire.  HIL on
  HP's Vectra computer line could save 2-3 I/O cards, useful for small I/O
  chassis systems.

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From: shuford@cs.utk.edu (Richard Shuford)
Date: 30 Oct 1996 22:37:55 -0500
Message-ID: <5596ujINNe43@duncan.cs.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: Pinout for HP 2622A?

In <846720801.5868@dejanews.com>, vince@foobar.gw2kbbs.com wrote:
>
> ...an HP 2622A terminal that I have in my possession.
>
> On the back there is a "Data Connection" that looks for all the world like
> a Centronics interface, but I'm assuming that it must be some kind of RS-232.
> Does anyone know for sure what it is? Better yet, anyone with pinouts? 

  [a guess]

If your "Centronics" connector has 24 pins, then your terminal
is built to use an IEEE-488 interface, otherwise known as HP-IB
(Hewlett-Packard Instrument Bus) or GPIB (General Purpose
Instrumentation Bus).

For introductory information on IEEE-488, see:

    http://www.transera.com/htbasic/tutgpib.html

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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:56:37 GMT
From: kludge@netcom.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Pinout for HP 2622A?

> ...your terminal is built to use an IEEE-488 interface....

Nope, it's a standard RS-232 with a funny connector.  Pins 2 and 3 are
transmit and receive, 7 is ground, just like with a DB-25 connector.

   [Archiver's note: see below for a 2nd opinion....]

However, this terminal also has a "port 2" with a DB-25 connector, and
you can go to one of the menus off the MODES menu to set port 2 to
be the main port used.

--scott

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From: cfandt@servtech.com (Christian Fandt)
Subject: Re: Pinout for HP 2622A?

shuford@cs.utk.edu (Richard Shuford) wrote:
>
> If your "Centronics" connector has 24 pins, then your terminal is built
> to use an IEEE-488 interface, otherwise known as HP-IB (Hewlett-Packard
> Instrument Bus) or GPIB (General Purpose Instrumentation Bus).

I have a couple of HP2622D's which are a special version for use with
an HP-250 business computer.

Main difference between the 2622A type is in the EPROMs and PAL chips
in the terminal control board. The interface is actually RS232 on
either unit.

About the "Centronics"-type connector which that person sees at the
back of his 2622A:

It is in fact a 50-pin connector. It is of the same type as the 36-pin
Centronics connector everybody sees on the back of their desktop
printers (which use the 8-bit parallel interface)--the de facto
"Centronics Interface". These connectors, along with the 24-pin
IEEE-488/HPIB/GPIB style, are of the same series introduced maybe
30-40 years ago or so by, I believe, Amphenol--their good old "Micro
Ribbon" family, derived from their older "Blue Ribbon" family.

HP in this case used the 50-pin Micro Ribbon connector to attach a
separate cable to this family of terminals which has the 'normal'
25-pin RS232 connector at the other end.

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From: blh@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Bill Hassell)
Subject: Re: Pinout for HP 2622A?

: Richard Shuford wrote:
: >
: >If your "Centronics" connector has 24 pins, then your terminal
: >is built to use an IEEE-488 interface, otherwise known as HP-IB
: >(Hewlett-Packard Instrument Bus) or GPIB (General Purpose
: >Instrumentation Bus).

  I missed this thread's beginning...here's the info:

    The large Centronics-like connector is an HP proprietary connector
    that was designed to use a number of different interfaces, and by
    using a different cable, access other serial connections.  I have
    never seen an HP terminal with an HPIB connector.

    There are several versions of the cables, but for do-it-yourself
    cables, there are just 2...modem and direct connect.  The direct
    connect cable would plug into a DTE computer port directly while
    the modem cable goes directly into a modem.

    Be aware that terminals of that vintage (early to mid 1980's) were
    designed for use with HP 3000 and HP 1000 computers where pacing was
    much more complex, using both ENQ/ACK to handle data flow and
    DC1/DC2 for block mode operation.  This connector even has clock
    signals (16x) where you can supply the clocking speed and literally
    change the baud rates on the fly with no loss in data.  You'll need
    a manual for complete info.

    Here's the pinouts (the RS-232 column is the 25 pin connector, the
    DIRECT column list the pin on the terminal side to use for a direct
    connect, while the MODEM column lists the pin on the terminal
    connector to use for a modem connection:

    SIGNAL RS-232  DIRECT  MODEM
    ------ ------  ------  -----
    shield    1      nc     nc
    DataOut   2      42     12
    DataIn    3      12     42
      CA      4             13
      CB      5             44
      CC      6             45
     gnd      7      48     48
      CF      8             46
     SCA     11             15
     SCF     12             27
      DB     15             41
      DD     17             43
      CD     20             14
      CE     22              9
      CH     23             40
      DA     24              7


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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 17:15:06 -0600 (CST)
From: Vince Kub <vince@sonny.com>
X-Sender: vince@ovid.kub.spink.sd.us
To: blh@atl.hp.com
cc: shuford@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Old comp.terminals Post
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971109164800.4423A-100000@ovid.kub.spink.sd.us>

Mr. Hassell,  
 
Greetings, 

  I happened to post a problem I was having with an old HP2622A to the
group "comp.terminals" over a year ago, and it turns out that you saw it and
had exactly the information I was looking for. Of course, by the immutable
laws of Usenet, I never saw your reply until I was poking around Richard
Shuford's Web site in search of information for a totally unrelated project
and found extracts of the thread archived there. (Odd, considering I read
comp.terminals on a regular basis.)

 In the meantime I had pestered HP through the formal support contacts my
company maintains (we've got some big HP-9000 iron), tried shaking it out
of general support and eventually tried working through the HP parts
identification center to see if they could somehow get a manual or cable
pinout. Of course, this one has "Option 035" applied which seems to mean
that it actually runs an RS-422 interface, which didn't help anyone at HP
find anything, either. From my SPARC experience I was pretty sure it would
be "interoperable enough" but the HP techs I talked to had their doubts,
to say the least. This went off an on for a few months until I was sure I
had reached a completely dead end. 

  I have to say that everyone I talked to made a valiant effort, but (as
the HP2622 is now well outside its end-of-life as far as HP is concerned)
there doesn't seem to be any way to get anything very definite about it
except an acknowledgment that it once existed; the terminal has been
serving as a doorstop the whole time but I just couldn't bring myself to
throw it out. 

  Well, with the information you provided I was able to take an old SCSI
cable, desolder the connector, and in less than time than it takes to tell
about it had the old beast talking to a PC running Kermit. It's going to
find a home hanging off the FreeBSD server in the back room where it will
actually look quite nice (it's an amazingly crisp display, of course) and
where I'm sure it will become something of a conversation piece. 

  Just thought you might be amused with the story and wanted to express my
thanks for taking the time to answer, even if it took a year for me to
notice. 

		- Vince 

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Date:         Mon, 24 Jul 1995 00:26:00 P
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Sender:       HP-3000 Systems Discussion <HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU>
From:         _Steve Dirickson b894 westwins <sdiricks@KPT.NUWC.NAVY.MIL>_
Subject:      _Re: Terminal Emulator Survey Needed_
 
<<Which terminal emulator (Windows version) has the best performance if
it runs on Winsock stack? Especially I want to know the
advantage/disadvantage of Business Session and Reflection.>>
 
Our experience here has been that R1Win is a much more accurate HP
terminal emulator, and consistently has fewer problems. R1Win works fine
over Winsock Telnet, but works better over VT. However, to use it over VT
under Winsock, you have to have the VT part of the 3000 Connection for
Windows product.
 
The downside is that R1 is much more expensive than BSess-like 2:1.
 
Steve Dirickson        WestWin Consulting
sdiricks@kpt.nuwc.navy.mil


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From: Mike Young <young@purdue.edu>
Subject: HP 2645A Terminal: info/pinout wanted

OK, I know everyone threw out these terminals years ago. But perhaps
some of you fellow old-timers
have some of the yellowed curled-at-the-edges docs still lying about.
Here's what I am looking for:

(1) Serial interface pinout for the HP 2645A terminal. It's a card-edge
connector, not a D connector.

    For bonus points:

(2) Some idea of the protocol used by the host computer for accessing
those little built-in tape drives
(like "read block" or "rewind tape" etc.) Did HP ever actually document
this??

Many thanks in advance, and public accolades to the folks that can come
up with the info. If you feel
this info would be of interest to other group readers, by all means
please post, otherwise email is
probably sufficient.

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From: "Larry Liska" <LarryLiska@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: HP 2645A Terminal: info/pinout wanted

Mike,

> (1) Serial interface pinout for the HP 2645A terminal. It's a card-edge
> connector, not a D connector.

There is a plethora of info in this HP manual:
	POINT-TO-POINT WORKSTATION I/O 
	Reference Manual 
	HP Part No.  30000-90250
	Product HP AdvanceNet
	Edition U0487
	Printed Apr 1987

Note that you will have trouble ordering this from HP, as it is out of
print.  However, it is on the HP LaserROM doc set for the HP3000.

I'll send you some stuff from this manual in a seperate email, as it is
pretty large.  If anyone else out there would like this info, ask (if
demand is great enough (yeah right) I can go ahead and post it.)

I don't think there is an actual pinout for your edge connector in the
stuff I'm sending you (though I do have a grainy bitmap of what it looks
like.)  However, I wouldn't expect that there is anything fancy going on. 
For example, I have a 2624B terminal, and it uses a 50 pin connector that
looks like a jumbo Centronics printer connector.  All those pins, and they
are just shoving RS-232 over it-- Rx, Tx and ground...

> (2) Some idea of the protocol used by the host computer for accessing
> those little built-in tape drives

I saw no reference to the tape drive in this manual.  I wonder if it is
used for local data logging?  Or, do you know that the thing was supposed
to explicitly be available as an I/O device to the host it connected to? 
Some of the 26xx family had thermal printers built in to them, but they
were local "screen capture" printers, or could be used as passthrough
printers.  They were not considered as seperate printer devices from the
host's point of view...  If this is the case with your tape drive, you may
have to control it with escape codes.  Who knows...  Do the built-in setup
screens offer any info?


Ragards,
Larry "Classic HP3000s make great heaters" Liska


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Subject: Re: HP 2645A Terminal: info/pinout wanted (long post!)

OK, it looks like I found some info on the tape drive...


Mike Young <young@purdue.edu> wrote in article
    <34F6D0A5.79B43806@purdue.edu>...
>
> (2) Some idea of the protocol used by the host computer for accessing
> those little built-in tape drives
> (like "read block" or "rewind tape" etc.) Did HP ever actually document
> this??

I'm guessing that the "terminal peripherals" are treated as passthrough
devices, as it looks like the terminal  has no extra I/O definitions.  And,
it looks like data xfers to them are handled with a "user block transfer",
which I have not heard of before.  Finally, it looks like $CTUL, $CTUR,
$HARD, etc. are hardcoded OS IDs.  Presumably the OS knows how to generate
the proper escape codes. 

Do you have access to an HP3000?  IF so you could do a capture and see what
the host was trying to send to you.  Where did you get this terminal?  A
terminal with a built-in tape drive sounds pretty cool!

Hope this helps.  Have fun!

lcl

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File System Reference Manual 
 
HP Part No.  30000-90236
Printed in U.S.A.
Printed Oct 1989
Edition Third
E1089
 
Enabling and Disabling User Block Transfers 
 
User mode block transfers (from block mode terminals such as the HP
2644/2645) can be enabled or disabled with the FCONTROL intrinsic.  User
mode block transfers are disabled in normal MPE operation.  The DC2
(CONTROL-R), transmitted by the terminal when you press ENTER, is passed
to your program for action At this point you may write escape sequences
to the terminal (i.e., to position the cursor) before reading the data
from the terminal.
 
The format for this application of the FCONTROL intrinsic is:
 
               IV       IV         L
     FCONTROL (filenum,controlcode,anyinfo);
 
The parameters are:
 

 
filenum          Integer by value (required).  A word identifier
                 supplying the file number of the terminal
 
controlcode      Integer by value (required).  The integer 28 to disable
                 user mode block transfers, or 29 to enable user mode
                 block transfers.
 
anyinfo          Logical (required).  Any variable or word identifier.
                 This parameter is needed by FCONTROL to satisfy the
                 internal requirements of this intrinsic; however, it
                 serves no other purpose and is not modified by the
                 intrinsic.
 
________________________________________________________________________ 
 
NOTE  Data overruns may occur during block mode transfers.  Your
      applications programs must check for successful completion of each
      FREAD operation and retry as required.  Since a data overrun on the
      last character read will cause the port to hang on the ADCC (Series
      30/33/40/44).  The normal block read timer will not work for own 
      handshaking.
 
________________________________________________________________________ 
 


=======================================================================


FCOPY Reference Manual 
 
HP Part No.  32212-90003
Printed in U.S.A.
Edition Third Edition
E1290
 

 
 
Chapter 6  Using FCOPY with Terminal Peripherals 
 
Some HP 3000 terminals have their own peripheral devices.  Terminal
peripheral devices include cartridge tape units, mini-tape units, floppy
disk drives, and printers.  If you are using a terminal with such
peripherals, you can use FCOPY to copy files between system devices and
the terminal peripherals.

 
 
 
Using File Designators 
 
You specify a peripheral device in an FCOPY command by using its file
designator as the fromfile or tofile.  Table 6-1 lists terminal
peripherals, their corresponding terminals, and their file designators:
 
          Peripheral Devices and Designators 

------------------------------------------------------------
|                |                          |              |
|   Peripheral   |         HP 3000          |     File     |
|      Type      |        Terminals         |  Designator  |
|                |                          |              |
------------------------------------------------------------
|                |                          |              |
| Left cartridge | HP 2640, HP 2641, HP     |    $CTUL     |
| tape unit      | 2645, HP 2647A, HP 2648, |              |
|                | HP 2649                  |              |
|                |                          |              |
------------------------------------------------------------
|                |                          |              |
| Right          | HP 2640, HP 2641, HP     |    $CTUR     |
| cartridge tape | 2645, HP 2647A, HP 2648, |              |
| unit           | HP 2649                  |              |
|                |                          |              |
------------------------------------------------------------
|                |                          |              |
| Line printer   | HP 2621, HP 2622, HP     |    $HARD     |
|                | 2626                     |              |
|                |                          |              |
------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
For example, you can use the following command to copy a disk file named
SAMPLE to the left cartridge tape unit of an HP 2645 terminal:
 
     >FROM=SAMPLE;TO=$CTUL 



 
 
 
Terminal Settings 
 
In order to copy to or from terminal peripherals, your terminal type must
be set to 10 or 12 (depending on your terminal), message reception must
be turned off, and the parity toggle switch must be set to NONE. FCOPY
checks these settings before it begins to copy the files you specified in
a command that references a terminal peripheral device.  If your terminal
is not set correctly, FCOPY prompts you to log on again and set the
terminal type using the TERM parameter.  For more information on terminal
types, refer to the System Operation and Resources Management Reference 
Manual (32033-90005) for MPE V/E or Controlling System Activity Reference 
Manual (32650-90155) for MPE XL. If message reception is not turned off,
FCOPY turns it off for you.  Before copying the files, FCOPY prompts you
to set the parity toggle switch. 



 
 
 
Copying Between Terminal Peripheral Devices 
 
Although you can use FCOPY to copy from one peripheral device to another,
it is usually more efficient to use the local capabilities of the
terminal.  Refer to documentation describing your terminal for
instructions for copying between local devices.
 
 
 
Examples 
 
The following examples show how to use FCOPY to copy to and from terminal
peripheral devices.
 
The command below copies the first file on the right cartridge tape unit
of an HP 2645 terminal to the disk file named DFILE1:
 
     >FROM=$CTUR;TO=DFILE1 
 
The command in the next example displays the disk file named DFILE4 on
the HP 2644A terminal line printer in both octal and character formats:
 
     >FROM=DFILE4;TO=$HARD;OCTAL;CHAR 
 
The command below copies the third file on the magnetic tape unit MAGTP
to the left cartridge tape unit of an HP 2645 terminal:
 
     >FROM=*MAGTP;TO=$CTUL;SKIPEOF=3;SUBSET 


==========================================================
 
Appendix B  File Definitions:  Default Values 
 
Appendix B summarizes the default file definition values that FCOPY uses
to open a tofile or fromfile.  It contains two tables:  table B-1 shows
default values for different types of fromfiles, and table B-2 shows
default values for different types of tofiles.  The information stored in
the file label of an existing disk file always describes its
characteristics.
 
Items marked with a "plus" sign (+) are those most likely to cause
problems when you are copying from one device to another.  Refer to the
File System Reference Manual (30000-90236) or Accessing Files Progammer's 
Guide (32650-90017) for information about domains, buffers, and record
formats.
 
You can override a file's default definition before you issue an FCOPY
command.  Simply redefine its characteristics using the MPE FILE command
and then use an asterisk (*) to backreference the FILE command in the
FCOPY command.
 
          Table B-1.  Default "from" Device Values 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
|      "From"       |       $CTUL       |     Magnetic      |       Named  
    |      $STDIN       |
|      Device       |       $CTUR       |       Tape        |       Disk   
    |      $STDINX      |
|                   |                   |                   |       File   
    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Formal File       | (empty)           | fromfile          | fromfile     
    | (empty)           |
| Designator        |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Default File      | (empty)           | fromfile          | fromfile     
    | (empty)           |
| Designator        |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Domain            | new               | new+              | old perm.  or
    | old+              |
|                   |                   |                   | temp.        
    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Record Type       | see note 1+       | binary+           | as specified
in   | ASCII             |
|                   |                   |                   | the file
label    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Record Format     | fixed             | undefined+        | as specified
in   | fixed             |
|                   |                   |                   | the file
label    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Access Type       | I/O               | READ/WRITE        | READ/WRITE   
    | READ only         |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Carriage Control  | no                | no                | as specified
in   | no                |
|                   |                   |                   | the file
label    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Multirecord       | yes               | no                | no           
    | no                |
| Access            |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Dynamic Locking   | no                | no                | no           
    | no                |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Exclusive Access  | yes               | yes               | yes          
    | no                |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Inhibit Buffering | yes               | no+               | no+          
    | no                |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Record Size       | 256 bytes         | 256 bytes+        | as specified
in   | 80 bytes          |
|                   |                   |                   | the file
label    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Device            | ldev # of         | byte array        | as specified
in   | session or batch  |
|                   | terminal          | containing ldev # | the file
label    | input device      |
|                   | (left-justified   | or device class   |              
    |                   |
|                   | ASCII number)     | name from the     |              
    |                   |
|                   |                   | FILE command      |              
    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
 
 
          Table B-1.  Default from Device Values (cont.) 

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
|       From        |       $CTUL       |     Magnetic      |       Named  
    |      $STDIN       |
|      Device       |       $CTUR       |       Tape        |       Disk   
    |      $STDINX      |
|                   |                   |                   |       File   
    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Userlabels        | 0                 | 0                 | as specified
in   | 0                 |
|                   |                   |                   | the file
label    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Blocking Factor   | 1                 | 1+                | as specified
in   | 1                 |
|                   |                   |                   | the file
label    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Buffers           | 2                 | 2+                | 2+           
    | 2                 |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| File Size         | N/A               | N/A               | as specified
in   | N/A               |
|                   |                   |                   | the file
label    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Initial           | N/A               | N/A               | as specified
in   | N/A               |
| Allocation        |                   |                   | the file
label    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| File Code         | 0                 | N/A               | as specified
in   |                   |
|                   |                   |                   | the file
label    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
| Allow FILE        | no                | yes               | yes          
    | no                |
| Command           |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
|                   |                   |                   |              
    |                   |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
 
 
          Table B-2.  Default "to" Device Values 

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
|      "To"       |     $CTUL     |     $HARD     |     Line      |   
Magnetic     |     Named     |
|     Device      |     $CTUR     |               |    Printer    |     
Tape       |     Disk      |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |     File      |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Formal File     | (empty)       | HARD          | tofile        | tofile 
        | tofile        |
| Designator      |               |               |               |        
        |               |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Default File    | (empty)       | HARD          | tofile        | tofile 
        | tofile        |
| Designator      |               |               |               |        
        |               |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Domain          | new           | new           | new           | new    
        | old           |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Record Type     | see note 1+   | ASCII         | ASCII         | binary+
        | as specified  |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        | in the file   |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        | label         |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Record Format   | fixed         | fixed         | undefined+    |
undefined       | as specified  |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        | in the file   |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        | label         |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Access Type     | I/O           | I/O           | WRITE only    |
READ/WRITE      | see note 3    |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Carriage        | no            | yes           | no            | no+    
        | as specified  |
| Control         |               |               |               |        
        | in the file   |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        | label         |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Multirecord     | yes           | yes           | no            | no     
        | no            |
| Access          |               |               |               |        
        |               |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Dynamic Locking | no            | no            | no            | no     
        | no            |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Exclusive       | yes           | yes           | yes           | yes    
        | see note 4    |
| Access          |               |               |               |        
        |               |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Inhibit         | yes           | yes           | no            | no     
        | no            |
| Buffering       |               |               |               |        
        |               |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Record Size     | 256 bytes     | 86 bytes      | 132 bytes     | 256
bytes       |               |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
 
 
          Table B-2.  Default to Device Values (cont.) 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
|       To        |     $CTUL     |     $HARD     |     Line      |   
Magnetic     |     Named     |
|     Device      |     $CTUR     |               |    Printer    |     
Tape       |     Disk      |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |     File      |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Device          | ldev # of     | ldev # of     | byte array    | byte
array      | as specified  |
|                 | terminal      | terminal      | containing    |
containing ldev | in the file   |
|                 | (left-        | (left-        | ldev # or     | # or
device     | label         |
|                 | justified     | justified     | device class  | class
name from |               |
|                 | ASCII number) | ASCII number) | name from     | FILE
command    |               |
|                 |               |               | FILE command  |        
        |               |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Userlabels      | 0             | 0             | N/A           | 0      
        | as specified  |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        | in the file   |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        | label         |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Blocking Factor | 1             | 1             | 1             | 1+     
        | as specified  |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        | in the file   |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        | label         |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Buffers         | 2             | 2             | 2             | 2+     
        | 2             |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| File Size       | N/A           | N/A           | N/A           | N/A    
        | as specified  |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        | in the file   |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        | label         |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Initial         | 1             | N/A           | N/A           | N/A    
        | as specified  |
| Allocation      |               |               |               |        
        | in the file   |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        | label         |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| File Code       | 0             | N/A           | N/A           | N/A    
        | as specified  |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        | in the file   |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        | label         |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
| Allow FILE      | no            | yes           | yes           | yes    
        | yes           |
| Command         |               |               |               |        
        |               |
|                 |               |               |               |        
        |               |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
 
 
          Table B-2.  Default "to" Device Values (Continued) 

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
|                 "To" Device                 |                  $STDLIST  
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Formal File Designator                      | (empty)                    
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Default File Designator                     | (empty)                    
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Domain                                      | new                        
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Record Type                                 | ASCII                      
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Record Format                               | undefined                  
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Access Type                                 | WRITE only                 
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Carriage Control                            | no                         
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Multirecord Access                          | no                         
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Dynamic Locking                             | no                         
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Exclusive Access                            | no                         
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Inhibit Buffering                           | no                         
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Record Size                                 | 80 bytes                   
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Device                                      | session or batch output
device              |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Userlabels                                  | N/A                        
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Blocking Factor                             | 1                          
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Buffers                                     | 2                          
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| File Size                                   | N/A                        
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Initial Allocation                          | N/A                        
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| File Code                                   | N/A                        
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
|                                             |                            
                |
| Allow FILE Command                          | no                         
                |
|                                             |                            
                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
 
 
________________________________________________________________________ 
 
       NOTE 
 
         1.  $CTUL or $CTUR domain is ASCII (JIS for the HP 2645K
             terminal) or binary, depending on the tofile.
 
         2.  A named disk file's access type is as follows:
             For COMPARE: READ only.
             For VERIFY: INPUT/OUTPUT.
             APPEND when message files are used.
 
         3.  A named disk file has exclusive access for all functions
             except COMPARE.
 
________________________________________________________________________ 

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Message-ID: <6dnle9$76e@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.65.193.169
Date: 6 Mar 1998 02:01:45 GMT
From: Larry Liska <LarryLiska@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Cable pinout for HP 2645 terminal (Was: HP2645A Terminal: info/pinout)

Mike Young <young@purdue.edu> wrote in article
<34F6D0A5.79B43806@purdue.edu>...
> OK, I know everyone threw out these terminals years ago. But perhaps
> some of you fellow old-timers
> have some of the yellowed curled-at-the-edges docs still lying about.
> Here's what I am looking for:
> 
> (1) Serial interface pinout for the HP 2645A terminal. It's a card-edge
> connector, not a D connector.
> 

Mike, 

I found one more thing, from the HP Fundamental Data Communications
Handbook (5957-4634, obsolete).  Chapter 2, Async.

There is a hodgepodge of charts, etc.  One of the charts covers the pinout
of an edge-card cable.  I have paraphrased it below.

The modem/host end is a male DB25.  The typical HP3000 system only used 3
wires-- Rx, Tx and Gnd (2,3 and 7).  That the cable diagram indicates
hardware flow control connections suggests that the terminal can support
them.  However, to work with the 3-wire HP controllers, the terminal had to
be able to work with just software flow control.  If you want software flow
control, you should be able to pick this from the config menus (I'm
assuming that the 2645 has software config, not dip switches....)

Hope this helps, lcl


*** View in fixed-pitch font for best results! *********

U.S.R. Modem Cable (30-pin 2F to 25-pin 3M)

Computer/Modem (DCE)                    Terminal (DTE)
====================                    ==============

Signal          Pin     Dir.    Pin     Signal
===================     ====    ============================
Send Data       2       <--     2       Send Data
Receive Data    3       -->     3       Receive Data
RTS             4       <--     4       RTS
CTS             5       -->     5       CTS
DSR             6       -->     6       DSR
Common Return   7       <->     7       Common Return
CD              8       -->     8       Carrier Detect
Secondary CD    12      -->     12      Secondary Carrier Detect
Secondary RTS   19      <--     19      Secondary RTS
DTR             20      <--     20      DTR
Freq. Select    23      -->     23      Frequency Select

Male Connector (DB25)           Female Connector (30 pin card edge)

==========================================================================

Where:

        RTS     Request To Send
        CTS     Clear To Send
        DSR     Data Set Ready
        DTR     Data Terminal Ready
        CD      Carrier Detect

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References: <20020819093147579-0700@news.apple.com>
	<3D612B41.5070404@charter.net> <rshu_20020819_171717@stratagy.com>
Message-ID: <3D6173CE.1000308@charter.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:40:14 -0500
From: craigm <camenning@charter.net>
Subject: Re: serial connector for HP 2645A terminal

...

Since you have a couple of connectors on the back, the correct one is on 
the card labeled 'datacom' or 'enh datacom'. The easiest way to tell 
which one is to open the terminal and look. All cards are labeled  on 
the top.

To open the terminal... It is hinged at the back and there are two 
latches near the front. Along each side of the terminal is the joint 
between the top and bottom. About 1.5 inches from the front of the joint 
is a small gap. The latches are through the gap. Straighten a paper clip 
and insert to unlatch the top. You should only need to insert the clip 
about  1/2 inch, no more. (Doing this with the power off is advised.)

Unlatch both sides and the terminal can be opened. There is a catch at 
the back to hold it open.

These terminals generally were used with ENQ-ACK handshake. You may want 
to check the setup to verify the handshake.

Enjoy,

Craig

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References: <20020819093147579-0700@news.apple.com>
	<3D612B41.5070404@charter.net> <rshu_20020819_171717@stratagy.com>
	<3D6173CE.1000308@charter.net>
Message-ID: <eq13mu0jgifaipp529g7m1oeqchap8ugul@4ax.com>
Organization: None
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 19:14:23 -0500
From: "\"Arargh (CircleAroundAnA NOSPAMarargh decimal NOSPAMcom)\" "
    <BOGUSNAME@NOSPAMripco.com>
Subject: Re: serial connector for HP 2645A terminal

dan <cephalopod(at)mac.com> wrote:
|
| I picked up an HP 2645A terminal the other day, and I think it's pretty


The part number for a modem cable for a 2648A terminal is: 02640-60131-1
if that is any help.

From the description of the connectors, it sounds about the same.

-- 
Arargh (at arargh dot com)    http://www.arargh.com/

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:00:46 -0500
From: John Pezzano <jp@avana.net>
To: michael.calvey@ntc.nokia.com
Subject: Re: Pinout for Ext Modem Port.

Mike Calvey wrote:
> 
> On the HP9000 K series there is an 25way External Modem port....
> Does anyone have the pinouts of this port?


NOTE: you CANNOT use this port if you are using the built-in modem.

The port uses the 40233A cable to connect to modem or 40234A to connect
to a terminal.

I don't have the pinouts handy but someone else should have it. If not,
email <johnp@hpuerca.atl.hp.com>p and he will send it to you.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux
Date: 23 Apr 1998 19:54:10 GMT
From: David Dalton <dalton@cup.hp.com>
Subject: Re: XTERM300

Sanchez.Philippe (sanchez@lmt.ens-cachan.fr) wrote:
:>
:> I would like to know more about XTERM300


If you install PHNE_11017 on a 10.20 system, and also some filesets from
the s300 media for 9.10, then your s300 machines can be used with HP-UX
10.20.  .   For more information see:


"Interoperability Guide for HP-UX 9.x/10.x" (part number 5964-1370) 
"Updating to HP-UX 9.10" (part number B1864-90101).

The idea is that a s300 machine can boot from a s700 or s800 10.20 server 
as a special kind of diskless client.  The s300 gets a special executable 
(kernel) that turns it into an X Terminal.  It is a good way to get some
additional value out of your s300 hardware when all your s700/800 systems
have moved to 10.x.

--
-> My $.02 only   Not an official statement from HP {They make me say that}
--
     As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Dalton           <dalton@cup.hp.com>            408/447-3016


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Message-ID: <6ooc0k$jfa$2@ocean.cup.hp.com>
References: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980717095604.23610D-100000@stat22.bauingenieure.uni-stuttgart.de>
Date: 17 Jul 1998 20:25:56 GMT
From: David Dalton <dalton@cup.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Q: PC Monitor on a  715/50 Workstation
 
Holger Steeb (steeb@stat22.bauingenieure.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote:
:>
:>I have a 715/50 workstation. Is it possible to use this workstation with
:>a 19" Multisync PC monitor?
 
Nope.  The 715/50 is the last of the fixed-frequency video workstations.
Later models (such as 715/64 and 715/100 and 712/xx) have the multisync
capability, but the earlier ones do not.
 
How to tell the difference on any random workstation?  Look at the graphics
console at first power-up.  If you see a color VUE-like image (red and
grey) it is a new machine with multisync.  If you see white text, it is an
old machine.
 
How to tell the difference on a workstation with RS232 console?  Power the
machine on and hold down the <ESC> key to prevent autoboot.  Then look at
the text on the screen.  If you are at the BOOT_ADMIN> prompt with a
screenful of HELP text, you have a new machine with multisync.  If you are
looking at a more ordinary prompt with no HELP text, it is an old machine.
 
BOOTP was introduced (in the bootROM) at the same time as the multisync
capability.  So a machine with multisync uses the BOOTP protocol to boot
diskless over the network.  Older machines use the much more primitive and
proprietary RMP protocol with rbootd.  All of the s200/300/400 machines use
RMP, and so does the 715/50.
 
-- 
-> My $.02 only   Not an official statement from HP {They make me say that}
-- 
     As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Dalton           dalton@cup.hp.deletethis.com            408/447-3016



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Message-ID: <6tjklc$1op$1@callisto.clark.net>
References: <Ez9r4r.60J@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Date: 14 Sep 1998 17:44:12 GMT
From: "T.E.Dickey" <dickey@shell.clark.net>
Subject: Re: HP 10 Xterm F key escape sequences

David Nixon <djn@csc.liv.ac.uk> wrote:
>   Function key escape sequences for an HP-UX 10 xterm window seem longer
> than under HP-UX 9. E.g. the codes generated by the F1 key:

> HP-UX 10 xterm                0x1b 0x5b 0x31 0x31 0x7e
>          dtterm                "     "   "    "    "
>          hpterm               0x1b 0x70 0x0a

> HP-UX 9  xterm                0x1b 0x4f 0x50
>          hpterm               0x1b 0x70 0x0a

>  The 10.20 release notes mention ANSI standard terminal escape sequences for
> dtterm; so I presume now xterm uses this same standard. Can anyone suggest
> how to generate the old escape sequences from an HP 10 xterm?

>  I ask this because when I rlogin to a remote non-HP computer for an Oracle
> application (using xterm -tn vt100), it will only recognises the function
> keys of an HP 9 xterm.

> David N.


XFree86 xterm uses the vt100-style codes for F1-F4 (the bogus
vt220-style codes are still available via a resource setting).

The XFree86 3.3.2 xterm supports ANSI color and VT220 emulation
There's an faq at

        http://dickey.his.com/xterm/xterm.faq.html
        http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey/xterm/xterm.faq.html
        ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/dickey/xterm
        http://invisible-island.net/

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey

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Message-ID: <6uovcn$evr$1@tepe.tezcat.com>
References: <6ugpib$jil$1@platane.wanadoo.fr>
Organization: Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke's Medical Center
Date: 28 Sep 1998 21:34:15 GMT
From: "Roger J. Allen" <rja@sis.rpslmc.edu>
Subject: Re: HP 700/xx

Thomas SCOLAN <thomas.scolan@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
> I've a problem.
> what are the pins connector of the port "DATACOM" connected to ?
> i give an exemple (Wrong) :
>     1-----Vcc
>     2-----Gnd
>     3-----D0
>     4-----D1
>     5-----TxD
> etc..

From an HP700/44 User's Manual, Appendix A:

The O and I are for the direction of the signal (Output and Input).

DATACOMM RS-232 Port (25 pin):

1  PGND AA   Frame Ground
2  TXD  BA O Transmit Data
3  RXD  BB I Received Data
4  RTS  CA O Request to Send
5  CTS  CB I Clear to Send
6  DSR  CC I Data Set Ready
7  SGND AB   Signal Ground (Common Return)
8  RLSD CF I Received Line Signal Detector (Carrier Detect)
12 SPDI CI I Secondary Received Line Signal Detector (Speed Indicator)
20 DTR  CD O Data Terminal Ready
23 SPDS CH O Data Signal Rate Selector (Speed Select)

Current Loop 20mA Port:

1  -12 Volt
2  Transmit Data (negative)
3  Receive Data (negative)
5  Transmit Data (positive)
7  Receive Data (positive)
8  Ground

Printer Port (9 pin):

1  PGND AA   Frame Ground
2  TXD  BA O Transmit Data
3  RXD  BB I Receive Data
4  RTS  CA O Request to Send
5  DTR  CD O Data Terminal Ready
6  DSR  CC I Data Set Ready
7  SGND AB   Signal Ground

--
Roger J. Allen                Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke's Medical Center
System Administrator                                   Chicago,  IL   USA
Surgical Information Systems                       Voice:  (312)-942-4825
Internet: rja@sis.rpslmc.edu                         FAX:  (312)-733-6921

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux
Message-ID: <6vbqr7$8jo$2@news-1.news.gte.net>
References: <sbigos-0510982010580001@news.digital.net>
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 01:11:46 GMT
From: "David A. Lethe" <elethe@gte.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux
Subject: Re: What is an Apollo 700, what is an Envizex?

On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 20:10:58 -0500, sbigos@ddi.digital.net (Steve
Bigos) wrote:

>Anyone know what an HP Apollo series 700, model A2208A is? I assume it's
>an HPUX machine. I'm looking for info on the processor, etc. What are they
>worth? These units have a Micropolis 2112 HD and 48Mb RAM (8-72 pin
>SIMMS).
>
>Also same question on an HP Envizex a-series, model C2731A. No hard drive.
>Two 72 pin SIMMS unknown capacity.
>
>And last but not least an HP Apollo 700 model A1929A. This one has two
>SCSI drives (425mb and 1 gb), and large SIMMS that I can't identify the
>capacity of.


We sold a bunch of them at $250.  So that gives you and idea of what
they are worth.  Basically, if you want a very cheap HP-UX box, then
use them.  However, you will not be able to use your basic PC-type
monitor.

The Envizex is an X-Terminal.  No hard drive required, but you will
need either a server with the X-software, or a special ROM firmware
chip which plugs into the Envizex.

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Message-ID: <363DE12B.47146704@wrq.com>
References: <363cb682.7625890@news.thezone.net>
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:43:23 -0800
From: Joe Silagi <joesi@wrq.com>
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: Re: HP2392A troubles

Gary Marsh wrote:

> I recently inherited a HP2392A dumb terminal with a C1400 keyboard.
>
> The terminal powers up fine, but when I hit a key on the keyboard the
> wrong thing comes up. ie. hitting the "menu" key gives me a "y", etc.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> - Gary Marsh, gmarsh@nospam.thezone.net

Gary,

I believe the C1400 keyboard is usually shipped with the HP700/xx
terminal line.  I just tried plugging a C1400 into a HP2392A and saw the
same results that you have noted.  My 2392A  keyboard is part number:
46011A.

Joe Silagi
WRQ


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Message-ID: <7a9sfo$j7$1@wrqnews.wrq.com>
References: <06670F6CB153663A.ED50A6B754C45458.9536018DC5CE2DD9@library-proxy.airnews.net>
            <36C4E0BC.B443ADD0@mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:27:51 -0800
From: Walt Pietrowski <waltp@wrq.com>
Subject: Re: where to buy reflection 1?

John Pezzano wrote in message <36C4E0BC.B443ADD0@mindspring.com>...
>Reflection software is still the best. I have R1 designed for Win95.
>Call them and ask about it. My version is current.
>
>alex wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know where i can buy a copy of reflection 1 for
>> Win95(or windows i guess).  I've looked on WRQ's web page
>> and they don't really say much about reflection 1.  Is it out
>> of production or something?
>>
>> If it can't be got anymore, is there some other software
>> for PC's(running some sort of Windows) that will allow the
>> user to telnet to a HPUX based system and still use the
>> function keys?



Reflection 1 has been renamed Reflection Suite for HP.  Support is provided
for Windows 95, Windows 98 and NT.  You can find more information under the
products section on the web site.

http://www.wrq.com/products/prodover.htm

To find out where you can buy it, you can contact WRQ Sales:
 1(800)872-2829


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Message-ID: <7c58ci$458c$1@www.univie.ac.at>
References: <01be508f$7a90adc0$0300a8c0@96001>
Date: 10 Mar 1999 07:52:50 GMT
From: Alexander Oelzant <aoe@comitan.oelzant.priv.at>
Reply-To: Alexander Oelzant <aoe@oeh.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hardware, comp.terminals
Subject: Re: Help! HP 700/60 Terminals & SCO UNIX

John,

The hp700/60 is a strange beast indeed. I have one here hooked up to my
linux box in vt320 mode, which works fine in most cases (only fscks up
one vttest case).

The terminal has vt320 and wyse60 emulation (amongst others), of which the
latter provides a 132x48 emulation. However, since the most complete term-
cap entries are available for the DEC compatible terminals (does anyone
object?), I went with the flow and used that.

The cable you'd have to use is a crossed-out one (the usual 2-3, 3-2, 4-5,
5-4, 6/8-21, 7-7, 21-6/8, but observe that the 700/60 has a f plug where
you might have expected a m one).

Since three communication ports (25f primary, 25f printer, 9m secondary)
are available, of which primary and secondary may be used for host-terminal
communications, you'd also have to make sure you selected the correct
one to go with your connection.

hth

                        alexander

ps. local echo can be turned on in the system setup under local echo. This
would also be the exact place to turn it off, which might be of rather more
help. aoe

pps. can you cu -l /dev/yourmodemline -s yourspeed to the terminal? If not,
you should look into the cable (and the permissions of /dev/something and
/yoursbin/cu). a

ppps. The device consented to a quite satisfactory 19200 bps transmission
rate (over some 10 m!) after turning off hardware _and_ software
handshaking.  thus is life.


In article <01be508f$7a90adc0$0300a8c0@96001>, someone calling him/herself
John Clarke <jclarke@island.net> wrote:
>
>Attention all UNIX gurus!
>I have acquired some HP 700/60 terminals and am trying to get them
>connected to an SCO UNIX server via a digi multiport card / concentrator.
>I cannot get the login prompt to appear on the terminal.
>
>-have double checked cable connections.
>
>-baud rates, data bits, stop bits, parity, etc are the same on server
>configuration as well as on the terminal.
>
>I have no documentation on the HP Terminals, and would be grateful if
>anyone could help me out.  HP website and faxback have no trace of these
>terminals.
>
>I would like to know if there is any other configration issue I can test on
>the terminal.  I have not been able to verify where one would select "full
>duplex" mode on the terminal, and when in the setup screen, I am not able
>to access the "progrm" menu.  Perhaps these are some clues to help me with
>my problem.
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>John Clarke
>


--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux
Message-ID: <37403D91.489A@cup.hp.com>
References: <5e7cf$102032.232@news.kea.bc.ca>
Organization: Hewlett Packard Cupertino Site
NNTP-Posting-Host: cc710751.cup.hp.com
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:02:25 -0700
Organization: Hewlett Packard Cupertino Site
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux
From: cas caswell <casc@cup.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Terminal types

Nader Behzad wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am not sure if this is the right news group to post this question
> but I would like to know which terminal types are supported by
> HP9000 and which are supported by HP3000 (if this is the
> wrong news group for this question, I would appeciate any
> suggestions as to which news group I should be posting to).
>
> 700/98
> 700/96
> 700/94
> 700/92
> HP2392a
> VT220-7
> VT220-8
> VT100
> VT52
> SCO
> ANSI-BBS
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Sincerely,
> Nader Behzad

I see you've had several answers for the UX world. Let me stab at
MPE world, i.e. the HP3000

It's been a while, so take this with a grain of salt. First,
comp.sys.hp.mpe is a reasonable place to ask the 3000 questions.

Second, when I left the 3000 the 700 series terminals were supported
on the 3000 and the 2392 was as well. But that may have changed in the
3 years it's been since I played MPE.

Hope this helps and sorry I can't give you the definitive answer.
Cas

--
Cas Caswell (casc@cup.hp.com)       BTW I said it, not my company.
In my day, we didn't have virtual reality. If a one-eyed razorback
warrior was chasing you with an axe, you just had to hope you
could outrun him. -Sarah M. Wolford



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References: <5e7cf$102032.232@news.kea.bc.ca>
    <AXp%2.35922$134.354207@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:53:30 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux
From: T.E.Dickey <dickey@shell.clark.net>
Subject: Re: Terminal types

JonathanS <jonathan@securnetconsulting_no_spam.com> wrote:
>   I don't know about HP3000, but on HP9000, just check the /usr/lib/terminfo
> directory and the /etc/termcap files for a list of all term types
> supported...

from an HP 9.0.5 terminfo manpage (perhaps still relevant):

 WARNINGS
      HP supports only terminals listed on the current list of supported
      devices.  However, non-supported and supported terminals can be in the
      terminfo database.  If you use such non-supported terminals, they may
      not work correctly.


--
Thomas E. Dickey
dickey@clark.net
http://invisible-island.net/

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux
Message-ID: <7p8mge$qoh$1@news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
References: <37B7C044.507A13AD@frqnet.de>
Date: 16 Aug 1999 09:43:42 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe
From: urle <urle@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Subject: Re: German Keyboard

Christine Volkwein <volkwein@frqnet.de> wrote:
>
> I've an HP-Server (HPUX 10.20). The first installation have been made
> with a german keyboard (y and z mixed). Now I've an english keyboard.
> How can I change it?

rm /etc/kbdlang
/sbin/itemap -i -L -w /etc/kbdlang

(see /etc/bcheckrc)

urle

-- 
Uli Betzler (urle)                                  urle@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
Universitaet Karlsruhe, Rechenzentrum IRA/VERA/SR, Zirkel 2, 76128 Karlsruhe
phone: +49 721 608-4039  FAX: +49 721 608-9013  alternate FAX: +49 721 32550
urle = URL-Emanation = http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Ulrich.Betzler/urle.html

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Message-ID: <ucogftm5xe.fsf@barry.gf.state.az.us>
References: <7q5lbp$aah$1@sunflower.man.poznan.pl>
Organization: The University of Arizona
Date: 27 Aug 1999 11:31:25 -0700
From: Matt Alderson <matt@barry.gf.state.az.us>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux
Subject: Re: Linux as X-terminal for HP-UX - is this possible ?

"Gandalf" <gandalf3@friko.onet.pl> writes:

> How can I use Linux as X-terminal for HP-UX ?
>
> I was trying     'X -query hp-host'     on linux but the results was not
> very good:
>
> with 10.20 hosts I've got CDE login on Linux but after that, there was only
> empty desktop with mouse cursor - Session Manager did not start (executing
> 'xterm &' on HP displayed window on Linux)
>
> with 11.0 host there was no CDE login at all - just busy cursor on Linux (HP
> shape) and on HP 'dtgreet' process was respawning all the time

> Gandalf
>

You need the CDE fonts loaded on the Xterm. On the HP 10.20 box they
should be at /usr/dt/config/xfonts/C/.
You could copy them onto the Linux, or use tftp, or nfs or a font
server (xfs). Then run "xset fp+ /path_to_these_fonts". Now
the 'X -query hp-host' should work. You could setup the boot files
(rc.local ?) on the Linux to load these fonts at system bootup
so you won't need to do it manually again. Sorry, I don't know
any Linux so you'll need to figure that out yourself. But I have
done this on a Windows95 box running an X package; I simply copied
the fonts to the PC's hard drive in the appropriate folder. I
may have had to run a "mkfontdir", don't remember.
--
Matt Alderson    GIS Specialist   . Arizona Game and Fish Department
email: matt@barry.gf.state.az.us  . 2221 W. Greenway Road
voice-mail: (602) 789-3610        . Phoenix, AZ 85023         U.S.A.


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Newsgroups: comp.terminals
References: <3803D353.11BD57D7@hp.com>
    <gkSM3.341$9%5.8110@dfw-read.news.verio.net> <38063B01.1F8F1A7D@hp.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:54:30 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Message-ID: <aXuN3.1286$9%5.26662@dfw-read.news.verio.net>
From: T.E.Dickey <dickey@shell.clark.net>
Subject: Re: using a text editor within an hpterm

John Hatcher <john_hatcher@hp.com> wrote:
>> John Hatcher <john_hatcher@hp.com> wrote:
>> > Here's the situation:
>> > I'm trying to use a simple text editor (pico) in an hpterm.  Is it
>> > possible to set it up so that I can use the arrow keys to move the
>> > cursor within pico?  I am currently having to use some control keys to
>> > move around (for example: 'ctrl n' to move the cursor to the next
>> > line).  It works fine within xterm.
>>
>> it "should" work (what do you have $TERM set to?)
>>

> It is set to 'hpterm'.


well - I use pico only when elm's not working (so this is my guess):

I can see pico on this Solaris box is set up to try to read terminfo and
termcap - so perhaps your copy is built to use termcap (since iirc, HP's
newer terminfo may not be where a naive configure script would find it).
I'd do a strings on pico, verify that it's compiled-in paths for terminfo
match those on my system - if not, the problem likely is an incomplete
or incorrect termcap entry - perhaps set in your $TERMCAP variable.  If
the terminfo path isn't right, you can usually override it with $TERMINFO.

(Both are mentioned in the corresponding man-pages).

I've run vi and similar programs on an hpterm, so I'm reasonably sure arrow
keys work in the program itself.

-- but if it's a different problem, I'm still curious.

--
Thomas E. Dickey
dickey@invisible-island.net
http://invisible-island.net/

 
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2000-04-10

Minisoft Corporation sells the "Javelin" applet, which runs in the
Java environment (as in a Web browser) and can emulate an HP700/92 or
HP2392A. (DEC VT320 emulation seems to be under development.)  Access
layers include NS/VT or Telnet; encryption is an option.

    http://www.minisoft.com/javelinHP/javelinHP.htm

According to the press release, free evaluations are available.

    http://www.minisoft.com/

    MiniSoft, Inc.
    1024 First Street
    Snohomish, WA 98290 USA

    email: sales@minisoft.com
    voice: 1-800/682-0200


    Minisoft Marketing AG 
    Papiermuehleweg 1
    Postfach 107
    CH-6048 Horw Switzerland

    email: minisoftag@centralnet.ch
    voice: (+41) 340 23 20

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux
Message-ID: <39786664.A2550D8D@hp.com>
References: <8l6qp6$g8g$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3977372E.1A04F704@hydro.qc.ca>
    <8l9155$doj$1@news.demos.su> <39784504.E528E2E0@hydro.qc.ca>
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:04:04 -0400
Organization: HP Response Center
From: Chuck Slivkoff <charles_slivkoff@hp.com>
Subject: Re: 3 button mouse support

> > > jprok@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > >> Is there anyway to enable 3-button mouse support in HPUX.
> > >> The mouse configuration applet only lets me modify
> > >> acceleration and double click speed.
> > >>
> > >> thanks
> > >>
> > >> john prokopek
> > >> john_prokopek@instinet.com
>

> > Christian Tremblay <tremblay.christian@hydro.qc.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > Usually you can emulate the 3rd button on a 2 buttons mouse by
> > > pressing both at the same time.


> arv@arv.dol.ru wrote:
>
> > Usually, but not in HP-UX :((



Chording of a 2-button mouse to gennerate a 3rd button is only provided
in the HIL driver. For PS/2 devices (and probably USB also), it is
possible to chord B1+B2 and B2+B3 to generate B4 and B5 respectively,
but chording a 2-button mouse has never been supported on HP
workstations.

-- 
Chuck Slivkoff

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Newsgroups: comp.emulators.misc,comp.terminals,es.comp.emuladores,es.pruebas
Message-ID: <8ng88h$obk$1@talia.mad.ttd.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.140.67.147
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:39:08 +0200
Organization: Telefonica Transmision de Datos
From: "Tigro" <gonzalon@hotmail.com>
Subject: Emulación de terminales HP-9000

Tengo un ordenador central HP-9000 E25 y varios PC que emulan pantallas de
HP con un programa llamado Reflection-1, pero no hace bien la emulación
(p.ej.: no puedo usar la letra ñ/Ñ), otras programas como R4 y telnet
tampoco consiguen la emulación total.

Necesito conocer otros emuladores de pantallas Hewlett-Packard.

Gracias

 ..............................................................................

 [rendered by http://www.onlinetrans.com/freetest.cgi ]

I have a central computer HP-9000 E25 and several PC that emulate HP
screens a called program Reflection-1, but does not make the emulation
well (pej.: I cannot use the letter 6n/6N), other programs as R4 and
telnet do not obtain the total emulation either.

I need to know other emulators Hewlett-Packard screens.

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Newsgroups: comp.terminals
References: <8ng88h$obk$1@talia.mad.ttd.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.215.151.130
Organization: WRQ Inc.  Seattle, WA
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 07:10:45 -0700
Message-ID: <8ngrs6$8g0$1@wrqnews.wrq.com>
From: Joe Silagi <joesi@wrq.com>
Subject: Re: Emulación de terminales HP-9000

Reflection 1, now called Reflection for HP, was designed to emulate HP700/9x
and HP2392a terminals.  This also includes VT52, 102, and 220, since the HP
terminals support these emulations.  Reflection 4, now called, Reflection
for ReGIS Graphics, includes support for VT emulation through VT400
including the graphics capabilites of  VT24x and VT340, Wyse, ADDS, Data
General, SCO ANSI, BBS ANSI, and T27.

In general Reflection for HP should be able to run any application on the
HP9000 that uses either a HP or VT terminal type.  Please feel free to
contact me directly and I will do my best to help you.

Regards,

Joe Silagi
WRQ, Inc.

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Newsgroups: comp.emulators.misc,comp.terminals,es.comp.emuladores,es.pruebas
References: <8ng88h$obk$1@talia.mad.ttd.net>
Date: 17 Aug 2000 14:47:24 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <8ngtts$h6o$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>
From: Frank da Cruz <fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>
Subject: Re: Emulación de terminales HP-9000 

Kermit 95:

  http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html

emula pantallas de HP (HP2621A y HPTERM, y otros también).  K95 permite el
uso de teclas "especiales" como ñ/Ñ, á/Á, ü/Ü, traduciendo de los codigos de
PC a los de HP, y v.v., automáticamente.  Si no tiene el teclado los teclas
españoles, K95 incluye una "tecla de composición" para formar las letras con
acentos, e.g. Alt-C,n,~ -> ñ.

- Frank

 ..............................................................................

Kermit 95:

it emulates HP screens (HP2621A and HPTERM, and others also).  K95
allows the use of " special " keys like 6n/6N, á/Á, 5u/5U,
translating of the codigos of PC to those of HP, and v.v.,
automatically.  If it does not have the keyboard the Spanish keys, K95
includes a " key of composition " to form the letters with accents,
e.g. Alt-C, n, ~ - > 6n.

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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 17:41:34 GMT
From: "Larry Liska" <larryliska@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: hp9000/300

memorton@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> I have an old HP9000/300 machine and I'm looking to replace the dead
> terminals. What will work just like the now dead hp terminals?
> Also, what windblows software can I used to emulate them?

There are a couple of free MS Windows-based HP terminal emulators available
for you to try out.  There are directed toward HP3000 users, but since both
HP3000 and HP9000 machines use the same terminals, you should be able to use
these, but please be aware that your milage may vary.....

Zebra:  GPL freeware, includes source code, serial comm only.
        http://www.coastal.net.au/~ewan/
        [2002: link is stale;  Ewan Thompson seems to have dropped support.]
        [The Gnu Zebra program is not the same thing; that's a routing daemon.]

QCterm/QCwin, from AICS Research
        http://aics-research.com/emulate.html
        http://www.aics-research.com/qcterm/index.html

Some things to watch out for:

Since Zebra was developed for use with HP3000 machines, it still has trouble
with some of the HP escape codes.  SAM on the HP9000 uses the terminal
differently than does VPLUS on the HP3000, so some of the escape code
handlers have been excercised (and debugged) more than others.  A couple of
showstoppers have been fixed, so now SAM will at least run, but it still has
some major display issues, such as menus not painting correctly, garbage
being left on the screen after a menu goes away, a couple of
text-to-linedraw-characterset-switch problems (causes the wrong charset to
be used in a few places) etc.

I have not used QCwin extensively, so I can't speak much about it, other to
say that it is actively maintained and I hear it is pretty solid.

Note: Zebra supports serial connectivity, but not TCP/IP.  QCwin supports
TCP/IP but not serial.  Such is life....  So, you might try Zebra for your
console, but then once you are booted, QCwin may give you better luck for
user sessions, if you are at a point where you can telnet in.

Of course, there are also commercial emulators, such as WRQ's Reflections,
MiniSoft, DynaComm, etc.  Check out Richard Shuford's terminal website for
vendor links.

good luck,
lcl

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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:57:18 GMT
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From: "Joe Silagi" <joesi@wrq.com>
Subject: Re: Infos about HP 700/92

"Christian Fertig" <Christian.Fertig@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:3nopd9.5k9.ln@titan.cfertig.dialup.rz.uni-frankfurt.de...
>
> Hi,
>
> anybody here with some information (e.g. websides, manuals) for
> the HP 700/92 terminal?
> I did not find so much while searching...
>
> Regards,
> Christian


Check out the HP Terminal Reference Manual link on this page:

    http://support.wrq.com/manuals/r124docs.html

Joe Silagi
WRQ, Inc.

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Organization: dynalabs Network Research Unit
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 00:12:26 +0200
From: Michael Piotrowski <mxp@dynalabs.de>
Subject: Re: I killed the mouse!  newbie needs help,
     new 715/50 HPUX  10.20install....

Chuck Slivkoff <charles_slivkoff@hp.com> writes:

> Michael Piotrowski wrote:
> >
>> 
>> As far as I know, HIL is hot-pluggable, so this shouldn't have hurt.
>
> It is not.


Thanks for the correction.  I thought I had read it way back in some
HP manual, but obviously my memory failed me.  But of course this is
mostly irrelevant nowadays anyway, as HIL-equipped systems are getting
rare...

[Off-topic: I have three generations of HP hardware here under my
desk, a 715/50, a C200, and a B1000--all use different keyboard
interfaces.  I've always liked HIL best, mostly for the ITF keyboards,
and the fact that the system can detect the language of the keyboard.
No need for /etc/kbdlang and no need for knowing the USASCII layout by
heart for interacting with ISL when a non-US keyboard is connected.
The advantage of PS/2 and USB is that I can easily connect my Kinesis
keyboard.]

-- 
Michael Piotrowski, M.A.                                  <mxp@dynalabs.de>

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Message-ID: <3BB84DCE.923505C0@icn.siemens.de>
Organization: Siemens AG
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 13:04:46 +0200
To: Jude Federspiel <spectre_man@excite.com>
From: Martin Jost <Martin.Jost@icn.siemens.de>
Subject: Re: I killed the mouse! newbie needs help 715/50 HPUX 10.20 install...


Jude Federspiel wrote:
> At this point the pointer did not respond to any mouse
> movement at all, nor buttons.  I logged out of CDE and
> when at the console login, I shut off the power.  I
> restarted, and after logging back into CDE, the same
> state existed--no mouse response at all.  So I logged
> out of CDE, shut off the power (when at the console
> login), swapped mice BACK TO THE ORIGINAL, restarted
> and--same thing, no mouse response at all.

Hmmm,
sorry, no direct solution, but have a look at:
/var/X11/Xserver/logs/X0.log
and
/var/dt/Xerrors

maybe this will give you a clue.


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Date: 1 Oct 2001 11:48:15 -0700
From: Jude Federspiel <spectre_man@excite.com>
Subject: Re: I killed the mouse! newbie needs help 715/50 HPUX 10.20 install...

Thanks everyone--I think I got it.
I added the line

/dev/hil2     pointer 

to my X0devices file.  This seems to have fixed it.
As it turns out, the SECOND mouse is entirely dead--no response at
all, but I got the first mouse back to its (partially) working state
(which at least tells me the system is functioning properly).
I've got a replacement on the way.


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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0106131612240.5331-100000@tallahassee.si.psi.br>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:16:36 -0300 (BRT)
To: Richard S. Shuford
From: Adilson Guilherme Vasconcelos Ribeiro <adilson%rapunza.org>
Subject: Re: Serial Terminals (HP700 file)

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Richard S. Shuford wrote:
>
> I have never used an HP 700 terminal myself, so I don't know much to
> help you.  However, the auxiliary port is probably intended to connect
> a printer to the terminal.

Hi,

Just discovered how to config the terminal...
Maybe it is of interest to someone else.

	Reset terminal to default configuration:

	Turn on terminal while holding "D" key.
	Wait 5-15 seconds, release keys, hear a beep
	press <Right-ALT>, <Right-Shift>, ESC
	press <Return>
	terminal has been reset to default config

	to config:
	press <Right-ALT>, <Right-Shift>, ESC

Regards,
Adilson Ribeiro

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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 12:37:37 -0500
From: B. Watson <urchlay(at)hardcoders.org>
Subject: Re: HP 700/94 terminals

On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, marty smith <martys63(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have a few of these lying around with keyboards.
> Are they at all wanted by anybody anymore or are they too old to sell or
> even give away?


If you have an extra keyboard, I can probably use it. I have an HP 700/96
minus its keyboard, and it's a pretty good bet that the 700/94 keyboard will
work (the 700/60 keyboards I have do work, but I don't have an extra one)

Can you describe the connector on the end of the keyboard cable? I'm looking
for a 6-pin, RJ11-style connector, bigger than what telephones use, but
smaller than UTP Ethernet uses.. if your keyboards have this connector, I
definitely want one (assuming you will sell/give me just the keyboard).

Also, is the keyboard a PC or Unix layout? PC has the control key in the
lower left corner and Caps Lock next to the letter A, and `Unix' layouts
are the other way around, usually.

Let me know..

--
B.

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From: "B. Watson" <urchlay@delete_this.hardcoders.org>
Subject: Re: HP 700/60 terminal

On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, Larry Liska wrote:
>
>
> Ooops, sorry.  I didn't specify which terminal I was speaking of.  You
> should see the Break/Reset key (or it shouldat least work) on the 700/96.
> I've never used a 700/60.
>

Well, I finally did mess with the /96 last night. The 700/60 and 700/96
are two completely different animals.. If I had to guess, I'd say the /96
is older than the /60: the /60 has a white display, and a much more user-
friendly setup menu. Also the /60 uses a PC-style keyboard layout, whereas
the /96 is a more `classic UNIX' layout: Control is where the PC keeps the
Capslock key, for one thing.

> Now with that said-- although my 700/9x manual discusses the reset key, and
> though they have pictures of the keyboards in the manual, I regret to say
> that said pictures are too microscopic to actually read-- the text on
> keycaps looks like mush.  And, since I don't have a real 700/9x terminal at
> home, I'm afraid I can't tell you which key is which....
>

Wouldn't matter: I'm using the 700/60 keyboard with the 700/96 (I don't have
the keyboard for the /96, I got it at the Goodwill :)

I did find the Break key on the /60 keyboard, it was sitting right in front
of my face (the Pause key is also the Break key.. I was looking for a key
that was specific to the terminal, but the standard PC Pause/Break key was
the right one all along). Feel free to deduct points from your estimate of
my IQ :)

> It has been a few months since I've used a VT320, but I seem to remember
> there being a reset function buried somewhere in the onscreen setup menus.
> But since this is an emulated VT terminal, perhaps the menus are arranged
> differently.
>

I've barely ever used a real VT terminal (a customer was using one for the
console on his Sun box running Linux once, but I was more concerned with
making his ^C and ^Z keys work correctly, which was a Linux problem, not
a VT problem.. you shouldn't use /dev/console for a serial terminal in Linux,
because you can't send signals via the keyboard if you do! Not 100% sure why,
but using /dev/ttyS0 (first serial port) fixes it. But I digress..)

> > > You can indeed change the character set, but per my manual this should
> be
> > > reset after power-on, or when you reach the end of the current line.  In
> > > other words, apps that use the alternate charset haveto keep shifting it
> in
> > > for each new line.  Hmmmm.......
> > >
> >
> > Er, for what emulation? I can't figure out how to get the 700/60 into its
> > native mode (if it indeed has one), my choices are VT320/220, VT100, WY60,
> > and VT52.
>
> Wow, I don't know about the 700/60.  I wonder if it even has an HP native
> mode?  Your list of choices above would indicate not...
>

Apparently not. This isn't really a problem, the VT320/220 emulation works
just fine with the TERM variable set to either vt220 or vt320 (I strongly
suspect that the Linux terminfo files are actually not using any of the
220/320-specific stuff, and are treating them both at a VT100). This goes
for both the /60 and the /96, though the keyboard layout is wonky when
using the /96. I actually prefer the control key to be to the left of the
A key, and the /96 does this, but it also transmutes the left Shift key
into another Tab key, which is highly annoying. Since you have a manual
for the /96, you might be able to find out is there's a way to get my Shift
key back...? Probably the correct answer, though, is going to be `Get an
actual 700/96 keyboard instead of using the 700/60 one'..

> This is a wild guess---- The backward questionmark is a classic from my
> VT-xxx days-- I remember several times dumping  8 bit characters to my
> terminal, but it was in 7 bit mode-- I would see lots of garbage and
> backward question marks.  I usually had to power off, or if I was lucky, log
> out and log back in (on the VAX)-- this would restore the terminal's sanity.
> Just out of curiosity, have you tried configuring your comm port (stty?) to
> use 7 bit chars?  Or, in the setup menu can you find a config option that
> indicates what bitness you are using?
>

Both the serial port and the terminal are set to 8-bit characters. I'll try
7 bits and see if that helps any.

> > Possibly I should be using the 700/96 instead of the /60?
>
> If you do, make sure you get a suitable termcap entry for it.
>

That's turning out to be easier said than done. I do have a termcap/terminfo
entry for an HP 700/92 terminal, but apparently this is not even close to
compatible with a 700/96, because when I do this:

TERM=hp70092 export TERM
tput init

...the bottom line of the screen displays `KB Locked' and every keypress
causes a beep rather than the normal soft `tick' noise.. I have to power-
cycle the terminal to get out of this mode. Probably there's a magic key
sequence to get out of this, but it probably involves keys that are present
on a real 700/96 keyboard but not the 700/60 one that I am using..

> > ... but I will see if I can get the /96 into native
> > mode instead of emulation.
>
> The 700/96 does have an EM-320 (or was it EM-220?) mode, but I've never used
> it....

The 700/96 works well enough in VT220 emulation mode, except for the left
Shift key..

Oh, and my original post mentioned un-pressable keys.. That turned out to
be because the keyboard had small plastic washers underneath the keys to
keep them from being pressed (the Setup, Capslock, and both Alt keys had
them). Apparently when I pried the Setup key off the board, the washer
went flying & I didn't even notice it.

>
> Here are another couple of URLs:
>

Thanks. The more I read the fewer bone-headed questions I will ask :)

At some point, I'm going to write a `HP Terminals with Linux HOWTO', so
the next guy who comes along with these questions will have something to
read on the subject.. so far I'm still having the annoying problem with
the `screen' help menu mangling the terminal, but otherwise everything
is working more-or-less perfectly.

Off to RTFM...

B.

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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 02:03:26 GMT
From: "Larry Liska" <larryliska@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: HP 700/60 terminal

>B. Watson <urchlay@delete_this.hardcoders.org> wrote in message
>news:Pine.LNX.4.33.0203150928550.21830-100000@davros.e-verifile.com...
>>
>> On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Larry Liska wrote:
>>
> > ---- snip!
>>
> Er, there isn't a Reset key on the keyboard... there are 3 unlabelled keys
> in the upper right, to the left of the Setup key (which is in the
upper-left
> corner), but none of those with the Shift or Ctrl-Shift keys seems to do
> anything.

Ooops, sorry.  I didn't specify which terminal I was speaking of.  You
should see the Break/Reset key (or it shouldat least work) on the 700/96.
I've never used a 700/60.

Now with that said-- although my 700/9x manual discusses the reset key, and
though they have pictures of the keyboards in the manual, I regret to say
that said pictures are too microscopic to actually read-- the text on
keycaps looks like mush.  And, since I don't have a real 700/9x terminal at
home, I'm afraid I can't tell you which key is which....

It has been a few months since I've used a VT320, but I seem to remember
there being a reset function buried somewhere in the onscreen setup menus.
But since this is an emulated VT terminal, perhaps the menus are arranged
differently.

> > You can indeed change the character set, but per my manual this should
be
> > reset after power-on, or when you reach the end of the current line.  In
> > other words, apps that use the alternate charset haveto keep shifting it
in
> > for each new line.  Hmmmm.......
> >
>
> Er, for what emulation? I can't figure out how to get the 700/60 into its
> native mode (if it indeed has one), my choices are VT320/220, VT100, WY60,
> and VT52.

Wow, I don't know about the 700/60.  I wonder if it even has an HP native
mode?  Your list of choices above would indicate not...


> By `alternate charset' I mean foreign-language characters, with
> the occasional giant backwards question mark (which I believe means `this
> char. isn't defined' or something, since in normal charset mode I see the
> backwards ? whenever someone's used a foreign-language character).

This is a wild guess---- The backward questionmark is a classic from my
VT-xxx days-- I remember several times dumping  8 bit characters to my
terminal, but it was in 7 bit mode-- I would see lots of garbage and
backward question marks.  I usually had to power off, or if I was lucky, log
out and log back in (on the VAX)-- this would restore the terminal's sanity.
Just out of curiosity, have you tried configuring your comm port (stty?) to
use 7 bit chars?  Or, in the setup menu can you find a config option that
indicates what bitness you are using?

> Possibly I should be using the 700/96 instead of the /60?

If you do, make sure you get a suitable termcap entry for it.

> ... but I will see if I can get the /96 into native
> mode instead of emulation.

The 700/96 does have an EM-320 (or was it EM-220?) mode, but I've never used
it....


Here are another couple of URLs:

HP server online docs:
    http://docs.hp.com/hpux/hw/

On this site, there is a downloadable PDF file-- a user's guide for the HP
C1099A terminal.  My guess is that this is a newer model that supercedes the
700/60.  Per the manual, it supports the following emulation modes:  700/96,
Wyse 60, Wyse 5x, ADDS Viewpoint, VT-[320|220|100], PC Terminal, TVI925, and
SCO Console (is this SCO ANSI???)

    http://docs.hp.com/hpux/onlinedocs/hw/c1099a_terminal_um.pdf

Now, this manual isn't a techref, but since it is a users guide it discusses
keyboard layout, using the config menu, etc.

Hopefully the C1099A is close enough to the 700/60 so that this manual will
give you some setup guidance.

Good luck!
lcl


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From: B. Watson <urchlay@delete_this.hardcoders.org>
Subject: HP 700/60 terminal

Hi.. I am the proud new owner of 2 HP 700/60 and one HP 700/96 terminal.
These are great (using one of the '60s connected to a Linux box to
post this), but I do have a few questions about them..

1) There is a cover on the front, like the cover for the controls on
   most TVs and monitors, but it doesn't have controls behind it (the
   brightness & contrast are sliders, to the right of the cover).
   Opening this cover reveals a slot that looks similar to a PCMCIA
   slot, only the pins are less dense, and also a round hole that looks
   like it's the right size for a PC PS/2-style keyboard connector,
   although there's not a connector there (just a hole). Anyone know
   what these are for?

2) I know how to get into the Setup menu (press the Setup key, duh :)
   But from the Setup menu there doesn't appear to be a Reset option.
   Is there a keystroke combination that acts as a Reset key? I haven't
   found anything yet that will get the terminal out of `alternate
   character set' mode (which it gets into if I forget to run `screen'
   with the -f option.. -f turns on flow control, screen doesn't seem
   to respect my `stty' settings. The result is garbage, and some of
   this garbage sometimes gets interpreted as whatever the code for
   `alt character set' is. I have to power-cycle the terminal to fix
   this, usually).

3) In the Setup menu, there are GLOBAL, USER, SYSTEM, PORT1, PORT3,
   KEYBRD, and PROGRM menus. All of these are accessible with arrow
   keys and PgUp/PgDn, except the PROGRM menu. Does anyone know what
   this menu does, or at least how to access it?

4) Although these terminals use a proprietary 6-pin RJ11-like connector
   (what do you call a 6-pin RJ connector? RJ13?), the keyboards are
   almost identical to the keyboards on some HP Vectra PC's I've used.
   I have yet to take the terminal keyboards apart, but.. Does anyone
   know if these are the same keyboards as PC keyboards, just with
   a different connector? I.E. do they use the same protocol and
   signalling levels? I am doing some research into this because I
   really want to use an IBM Model M keyboard instead of the mushy-
   feeling HP keyboards :)

5) I got a total of 4 keyboards with the terminals, 2 of which work.
   On all but one of the keyboards, the Setup key was un-pressable.
   What I mean is: the key didn't move physically when I tried to
   press it, as though there were something under it or it were glued
   into place. I managed to get one of them to work by prying off
   the keycap with a flat-blade screwdriver and re-seating it (though
   I have to hold it down and wiggle it before the terminal will
   recognize the keypress). Only the Setup key and (on one 'board)
   the Alt keys have this problem. My question is: Is this something
   somebody did on purpose (maybe to keep the users from accidentally
   misconfiguring the terms?)... and if so, what was done, and how
   can I un-do it without breaking the keys? I don't think it was
   glue (no residue), and there was nothing under the key holding it
   up.. but maybe somebody out there knows what trick might have
   been used for this? Doesn't seem like coincidence...

Sorry for the long post, somebody ran me in --verbose mode this
morning. To those who have read this far: Thanks for the attention.

B.

-- 
(Sorry, email address is munged, delete the obvious to email me)

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Date: 29 Jan 2003 03:42:51 -0800
From: Stephen Thorne <sjthorne@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: HP-HIL keyboard/protocol

I've got an extremely old (10 years) keyboard, with a HP-HIL
interface,, which HP stopped supporting in 1996.

I'm wondering if anyone out there has ever seen a converter or input
card for a modern PC to be able to use a HP-HIL keyboard.

I know it sounds a bit strange, but I love this keyboard, and its
layout (its like it was designed for a vi user, in fact, I think it
was), and would love to use it to replace my dying model M IBM
keyboard.

Thanks in advance
Stephen Thorne.


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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:26:13 +0000
From: Ken Green <Ken.Green@kgcc.co.uk>
Subject: Re: HP-HIL keyboard/protocol

Stephen Thorne wrote:
>
> I've got an extremely old (10 years) keyboard, with a HP-HIL
> interface,, which HP stopped supporting in '96.


I'm afraid it wasn't in fact designed for "vi";  it was designed when
HP-UX was very much a minor interest of HP's (although it was probably
a bigger interest to them than laser printers :-) but you're right, it's
a great "vi" keyboard especially compared to the vile things that come
with PCs.

Who ever thought of putting the Escape key 3 weeks' march northwest of
the keyboard?   I'm not sure where the decision to put the Escape key
next to the shift came from, but the rest of the keys were laid out by
copying them from from IBM Selectric golf-ball typewriters.

Cheers

Ken

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References: <168418f9.0301290342.413a5864@posting.google.com>
    <F41%9.3408$ek4.298791@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <b1lr8h$gj74r$1@news.wam.net>
Organization: WAM!NET, Inc
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 13:37:37 +0000
From: Jon Philpott <jon@remove.this.uv.net>
Subject: Re: HP-HIL keyboard/protocol

TenDollarGold wrote:
> Stephen,
> 
>     Yes there were converters that were made by HP.  The HIL Cable from the
> keyboard plugged into one side and a PS2 connected to the other side and
> into a PC.  Inside the converter was nothing a printed circuit board that
> had the female AMP connector on one side of the board and a female PS2
> connector on the other.  About 12 years ago I called AMP and asked to
> purchase the female AMP connector, they sent me 10 free samples and I made
> some converters using the pin-outs from the converter.   I dont remember the
> pin connections.
> 
> Ten

AMP make connects for just about everything, I'm not surprised :)

Jon.

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From the XEmacs FAQ:

 Q2.1.7: HP Alt key as Meta.   How can I make XEmacs recognize the Alt
         key of my HP workstation as a Meta key?

 A:      Put the following line into a file and load it with xmodmap(1)
         before starting XEmacs:

         remove Mod1 = Mode_switch

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References: <dcf11c49.0309291008.7da78a00@posting.google.com>
Organization: the Unofficial HP
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:47:37 GMT
From: Rick Jones
Subject: Re: Can i use vt100 for hp9000/832 console?

Kenny <kennyhelms@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I have a TI 924 terminal set at vt100 using for hp9000/832 console.
> I get text on the screen. after it ask for boot path I get -9 in in
> ENTRY_INIT. I tried booting from dds drive and get same result ...-9
> Could it be the console?

I don't think that is the console, but then again, an hp9000/832 was
not "supported" with anything other than an HP terminal as the
console.

BTW, an 832, being a PA 1.0 system will not support anything beyond
HP-UX 10.10.  As a system where "NIO/HP-PB" is the "native" bus, it,
and the 842 and 852 are probably in a position to have the best
performance of HP-PB peripherals - in particular the old HP-PB FDDI
NIC.  Now, CPU overheads might be an issue... :) But using say
copyavoidance from HP-UX 9 and the "right" send sizes it should move
along at a nice clip under stuff like netperf.

rick jones

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References: <cb9e8a45.0310220539.10946cb2@posting.google.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:54:33 +0200
From: siegfried eckloff <secff@arcor.de>
Subject: Re: HP 700/RX

> Can someone tell me if I can use another monitor with and HP 700/RX
> terminal instead of the one that comes with it?

Yes, you can.  Mine runs with an IBM G54 as well as a Belinea 107050.

(The latter can do--to my surprise--sync on green, so I'm not forced to
specify "configuration -> Terminal -> Monitor "... digital sync".
The IBM only can do digital sync.)

Finally, any multisync monitor with horizontal frequency f(h) >= 80kHz
should do the job.

\yours   siggi
-- 
siegfried eckloff    secff@arcor.de

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References: <pan.2003.10.24.08.00.46.90588@zembecowicz.org>
    <pan.2003.10.24.16.23.53.235345@localhost.invalid>
Organization: -= Belgacom Usenet Service =-
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:27:55 +0100
From: fred <frederik.vanhee@perso.be>
Subject: Re: 715/100 Keyboard Port

"Chuck Slivkoff" <slivkoff(at)hp.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 01:00:47 -0700, Enoch Zembecowicz wrote:
>
> > I've felt a need to own a PA-RISC box for quite some time, so I picked
> > up a HP 715/100 a little while ago.
> > In my efforts to hook a keyboard to it I found a wiring diagram of the
> > adapter HP produced to connect PS2 keyboards and mice to these machines.
> > I would just like to know what the proper name of the keyboard/mouse
> > connector is on these machines (HIL?) is so I can purchase the needed
> > parts and build the adapter.
>
> The 715/{64,80,100,100XC} have a 10-pin modular jack (look which accepted a
> short cable (HP P/N A4022-62003) that plugged into a "Keyboard Adapter
> Module" (HP P/N A4022-62005). The adapter provides 2 mini-DIN connections
> (PS/2 keyboard/mouse) and 1 HIL connection.


Some little remark here :

the connector to connect the interface to the workstation differs whether
your workstation is a 715/33 or 715/80.

You can't connect the interface of 715/33, 715/50 to a 715/80, even though
the connector looks the same...



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References: <pan.2003.10.01.10.17.30.854000@gmx.de>
    <1068564786.561048@cache6.usenetserver.com>
Message-ID: <opryi7nmwcp4sf9x@news.menta.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:51:12 +0100
From: Lluís Batlle i Rossell <viric%vicerveza.net>
Subject: Re: How to use the F-keys on a serial console?

> "Dragan Colak" <dragan_colak@gmx.de> wrote in message
>  pan.2003.10.01.10.17.30.854000@gmx.de...
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to use the F-keys on an hp 700/96 connected to an hp rx5670
>> (Itanium2 server). The server comes with a serial connector only (no VGA)
>> and a SmartArray RAID-Controller. This controller wants me to press F1 
>> to configure it.
>>
>> Every time I press F1 I get the appropriate terminal function. How would I
>> get the F-keys to work in a regular (non-terminal) way? I guess it's some
>> key combination but I couldn't find any information on that (no manual
>> available and nothing useful on the net).


On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:39:35 -0500, Jeremy Lagerman <bcc%ScanBCC.com> wrote:
>
> Did you try  ESC 1?


If I recall correctly, from the configuration menu of the 700/96 you can 
select the function of F1 (terminal function, or send F1). It's been a 
long time since I used 700/96.... I'm sure you can configure that in VT220.

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As of A.D. 2004, the Tame company (www.tame.com) no longer provides support
for HP and Apollo monitors and terminals.  Certain inquiries for related
test equipment may be directed to "RJK(at)techmart.com".

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