Tandem Computer terminals and emulators for them

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See what Tandem says on the Web:

    {May 1998}

PC6530 Terminal Emulator

    http://www.tandem.com/prod_des/pc6530pd/pc6530pd.htm

x6530 (for X Windows)

    http://www.tandem.com/prod_des/x6530pd/x6530pd.htm

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23 June A.D. 1997: Tandem Computers, Inc., of Cupertino, was purchased
                   by Compaq Computer Corporation, of Houston.

For a while, some news and commentary about this event were stored at:

    http://www.coastside.net/stevel/tandem/

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Pericom Software has Tandem-terminal emulator products that run under
Windows 3.1, Windows-95, Windows-NT, and Unix/X-Windows.

"teemtalk" for Windows

    http://www.pericom.co.uk/ttw4.htm

Emulations include Tandem 6526 and 6530.  Stratus V102 (like Televideo
955). "ANSI" (so-called) BBS. Data General D200, D410. DEC VT52,
VT100, VT131, VT132, VT220, VT320, VT420.  Hewlett-Packard HP2392A,
HP2622A, HP700/92. ICL Doc-18 (VT220+), Microcolour 2200. Prime
PT250. Viewdata (40/80 column and split screen). Wyse 50, 50+, 60. TVI
910, 925. ADDS A2.  Hazeltine 1500.  Options for IBM 3270 and 5250.

See this news about "teemtalk":

    http://www.pericom.co.uk/press.htm#tandem

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Subject: Re: 6530 Emulators and x6530

Tim Mooney wrote:
> 
> >mfarrugi@nitgrmc8.telecom.com.au (Mark Farrugia) wrote:
> >>Does anyone know the best software to use when trying to access a Tandem
> >>throuh UNIX workstations. 
[snip]

I used to use X6530 in a SunOS environment. Yes, you have to spend 
a little time creating a keymap you can live with, but I *really* liked 
the emulator.

Since it's X, you can run multiple copies on 1 machine and have the
display go to complete different workstations (I think this helped
keep our cost down since we only bought one copy). I seem to recall a
feature called Virtual Terminal Launch, where you could specify the
WINDOW option on the TACL command line to spawn programs (e.g. FUP) in
their own X window with their own X resources. Never actually used VTL
though, due to a TACL version mismatch.

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From: timm@mpservices.com (Tim Mooney)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 20:33:50 GMT
Organization: Managed Prescription Services (MPS)
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Subject: Re: 6530 Emulators and x6530

>mfarrugi@nitgrmc8.telecom.com.au (Mark Farrugia) wrote:
>>Does anyone know the best software to use when trying to access a Tandem
>>throuh UNIX workstations. I have currently loaded up Outside View, and
>>this does not allow me to perform all tasks. For example, when we try to
>>start ViewPoint we get the message "6530 Tandem Compatible terminal
>>required"
>>
>>Thanks
>>Mark
>>

Have used x6530 with UnixWare in the Intel platfrom.  I really liked
it.  Then I gave it to the Network Command Center who used Sun. (They
wanted access to our Tandem also)   We got it to run but there was a
problem (or missing) keyboard mapping to the Sun keyboards.  I turned
it over to the guy in the NCC.  He knew Sun (Unix), I know Tandem.

But I can say it does work and it was really useful with my 3-button
mouse.  Had this ability to launch programs like Peruse, Spoolcom, or
whatever with the right mouse button and throw the new process in a
new x window.  There was also this ability to run TEDIT with something
like 48  x 132, but I never had the time to figure it out.  (Didn't
seem to work as advertised) This would have been very useful.

I had heard Tandem turned over support/devel to 2 firms because there
were too may flavors of UNIX.  Tandem had SCO, an Intel (like UnixWare
from Novell at the time), SUN and one other (four flavors of Unix were
listed at the time when I was at MasterCard - where I played with
this).  I think it was D20. Ran fast too.  All over tcp/ip of course.
Had great potential - I thought.

Please post if you get it running/buy it/use it and let us know about
your experience with it/
I think it is called Y9277D20 from 941115 X6530 - TERMINAL EMULATION
UNDER X-WINDOW in the D32 Tandem Software Catalog listing.  It is an
optional product. $

... please talk to your Tandem rep... 

Tim Mooney - Managed Prescription Services (MPS)
timm@mpservices.com

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 19:06:19 GMT
From: dlmiller@inetdirect.net
Subject: Re: Tandem T/6526

In article <6ok70j$90s@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
   df852@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eric Nadeau) wrote:
>
>I found a Tandem T/6526 today.  I took it, hoping to use it as a
>terminal on my PC, which runs Linux.  I tried just connecting my PC
>and the Tandem as if the "CPU" port (on the Tandem) was a serial
>port.    Looks like it isn't. :-(

Actually, it is.

This sounds like it could be a cabling problem -- especially if you're
using the cable that came with the terminal. These terminals were
typically connected with a current-loop interface, not the EIA
(RS-232) interface used by PCs. If you got the cable the same place
you got the terminal, you may very well have a current-loop cable,
and that won't work on a PC.

Modem cables won't work either.

What you need is a null-modem cable, one which reverses certain
signal connections (ReceiveData of one device connects to TransmitData
of the other, and so forth).

Are you connecting to a 9-pin or 25-pin serial port on the PC?

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:40:32 -0400
From: "R. J. Williams Jr." <rjwilli@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Tandem T/6526

Dean Malone wrote:
 
> This will never work.  This terminal requires a Tandem proprietary 65xx 
> terminal driver to work and most certainly, none will exist for Linux.
> Think of trying to connect an IBM 3270 terminal to a PC.  Will that work?
> Not without 3270-emulation software. 
>
> This terminal is entended to be connected to a Tandem NonStop computer's
> RS-232 port and then the port needs to be configured (i.e., an appropriate
> device driver needs to be mapped) to that terminal device.
>
> Dean Malone
 
Not so.  The 6526 was meant for use with two different TANDEM systems.
The Guardian 90 systems VLX, CLX and Cyclone at that time, and a UNIX
system called LXN.

When used with the LXN, you set the 6526 to ANSI mode (I think it was
ANSI mode, anyway).  You did this through the the terminal
configuration screen.  I believe if you set the 6526 to ANSI mode, it
would work just fine as a dumb terminal on a UNIX server.
 
The port to use is the one marked CPU, and you will need a serial
cross-over cable since, you will be connecting two DTE pieces of
equipment.
 
Good luck!
Roger Williams

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MR-Win6530 Terminal emulator

Emulates Tandem 6530 terminal.  Supports telnet, including "managed telnet",
which is claimed to provide load balancing and fault tolerance.  Free trial
version available.

Contact:

    Unlimited Software Associates, Inc.
    Sarah Black
    Sales Associate
     voice: +1 610/296-2633
       fax: +1 610/296-0511
    e-mail: <ssblack@AOL.COM>

    http://www.win6530.com/

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I work for Unlimited Software Assoc. and we market an emulator
product, MR-Win6530.  We have a 32-bit version of the product
developed specially for Windows 95 and Windows NT environments. Our
developement company is based in Germany and would be very accessable
to you for support. I would be happy to send you a free trial of our
product if you are interested. My phone number is: +1 610/296-2633 and
fax is +1 610/296-0511, or you can email me with any questions you may
have.

Sincerely,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:57:16 GMT
From: TimWhite@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Re: 6530 for NT With x6530 Features?

In article <6lptqi$gue$2@nntp1.ba.best.com>,
  James Ellingsen <jime@shell11.ba.best.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a 6530 emulator for PCs with Windows/NT that
> has the superior features of x6530 like; large windows, function
> keys via mouse, easy cut/paste, WINDOW option on RUN command etc?
> Outsideview seems quite poor by comparison.
>
> Cheers .... Jim Ellingsen
>

I really hate pushing Win6530 all the time.  I am starting to feel like a
salesperson :-(  but Win6530 should meet your requirements - except for
launching a window on the PC from NSK.  That is a really nice feature that
seems to be unique to the X environment.  Of course you could always run an X
windows emulator on the PC.  You can download a trial of Win6530 anonymously
from

    http://www.win6530.com/

Tim White


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For Tandem systems from:

Failsafe Computer Systems, Inc.
 E-mail: <failsafe@ix.netcom.com>
 Phone: +1 847/518-8060, ext 109

"...a commercailly available product which allows access to any
6530 application from VT terminals over TCP/IP. Essentially you can
think of it as 6530 emulation on VT terminals, including both block and
conv mode support, protected and unprotected fields, graphic character
support, etc."  (John Schoeph)

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Date: 12 Jun 1998 17:59:16 GMT
From: BigHand <BigHand@usa.net>
Subject: Re: 6530 for NT With x6530 Features?

> Does anyone know of a 6530 emulator for PCs with Windows/NT that
> has the superior features of x6530? ....

The CTT6530 software from CAIL has many of these features (if not all).

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Vicom Connect Plus is a general-purpose terminal-emulation
package for connections to Tandem hosts using 6530 or 6526 terminal
protocols, either in Block mode or Conversational mode using Telnet
or asynchronous serial.

    http://www.vicomtech.com/pc.tandem.html
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From: dmhart@delphi.com (David M. Hart)
Subject: Re: Tandem Terminal Emulation
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 17:54:36 -0800
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In article <3m60l8$er7@xcalibur.IntNet.net>, jtomich@news.IntNet.net (Jeff
Tomich) wrote:

> Need to find something on emulating a Tandem Terminal? Any Ideas where I 
> can go for such a beast?

Internally, Tandem uses OutsideView (for Windows) to emulate Tandem
Terminals.  I don't know if this is a proprietary implementation, or if it
is available from OutsideView.

-Dave

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From: terrano@iadfw.net (Terrano)
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Subject: Re: Colour escape sequences for tandem terminals
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:17:52 GMT
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andy@pericom.co.uk wrote:
>
> The colour escape sequences are only available on the terminal *emulators*
> and our terminal manual doesn't have the colour sequences in it.

You just use the 6530 sequences for Underlined, Dim, Bright, etc. and
set the colors in your terminal emulator to be whichever colors you
want to display  (i.e. set Underlined Dim to RED and whenever
Underlined Dim appears in your application--it will show up as 'Red'
or whatever color the person has selected).  

The only Tandem emulator that I know of that ever did a full range of
colors and graphics is the 'Interm' emulator (Originally by
Transcommunication Corp--bought out by Tandem Computers).  The Interm
emulator is no longer (sigh) available--though it is used extensively
by Mobil Oil specifically for the extended color set (to show
different refined petroleum products in the pipeline).

Hope this helps!  
-- 
Mark Terrano
terrano@iadfw.net

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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:32:46 -0500
From: Brad <zbstumpf@flash.net>
Subject: Q: 653x Firmware Rev 'G' - New Escape & Control Codes Supported?

Still need more info on this.  Tandem support is slow to respond to this.  I
will not give up though!

Basically, as of Firmware Revision 'G' in the 653x terminals and emulaters,
new Escape and Control sequences were implmented.  I know of a new 'Esc -'
(hyphen) sequence w/subcodes of 'a-z' (guessing) (i.e., 'Esc -s' and
'Esc -j' are issued by Tandem products) and FS (0x1C) is used to define
fields by Pathway using pre-defined attributes stored in the
terminal/emulator (fixed and variable tables are available).

Anybody have full documentation on this stuff?  Please share with me (us) if
you do or know who might have some.  I know the emulator people must
otherwise there products would not be able to support Rev 'G' or greater.
Thanks,

Brad  [ bstumpf @ flash.net ]

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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 16:50:37 -0600
From: Terry Kees <tkees@wasatch.net>
Subject: Re: 653x Firmware Rev 'G' - New Escape & Control Codes Supported?

Brad I used the Esc - sequences a few years back when I was coding TAL block
mode front ends.  It let me select colors and attributes but I found that
the sequences were only supported by the old PCT emulator.  Outside View and
WIN6530 did not handle the sequences correctly, which makes since because
Tandem never made their use public.

May take me a few days to find some time but I'll try and dig up what I have
left.

Terry...

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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:44:50 -0500
From: Brad <zbstumpf@flash.net>
Subject: Re: 653x Firmware Rev 'G' - New Escape & Control Codes Supported?

I do know that current Tandem apps (D-series) use these new sequences (e.g.,
Pathway, TEDIT, others).

And all current emulators seem to also (e.g., OV 5.x, Win6530, ...).  These
Tandem apps query the terminal (using Esc ? and get the firmware rev...if
'G' or greater they send different sequences to the terminal).

I'd appreciate anything you can dig up.

Thanks,

Brad  [ bstumpf @ flash.net ]

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From: Jim Hampton <support@outside.com>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.tandem-users
Subject: Re: 6530
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:18:40 -0800
Organization: Crystal Point, Inc.
Message-ID: <315826F0.6D3B@outside.com>
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Anthony MacArthur <amaxxama@calweb.com> wrote:
> 
> I am looking for a program for PC/Windows which has the Tandem
> terminal emulator c( 6530 ). I access the tandem trough a router on the
> tcp/ip level. I use DOS 6.22 and or windows 3.1.
> 
> any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> AMAXXAMA

Anthony,  The majority of Tandem folks use Crystal Point, Inc.'s "Outside 
View" product for 6530 emulation.....   Outside View supports 
TCP/IP, async, MultiLAN, IPX/SPX connectivity and multiple file transfer 


    Crystal Point, Inc.
    Suite 301
    22232 17th Ave SE
    Bothell, WA 98021-4417
    USA
    voice phone: +1 206/487-3656
      fax phone: +1 206/487-2880
          email: <sales@outside.com>
 World Wide Web: http://www.outside.com/default.htm


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Menlo Business Systems, Inc.
201 Main St.
    Los Altos, CA 94022-2909
voice: +1 415/948-7920

CTAccess 2.0 Tandem terminal emulation for Macintosh
Supports TCP/IP (Telnet sessions) and ADSP. 

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From: andy_louie@em.fcnbd.com (Andy Louie)
Subject: Re: Good Tandem Emulator

In article <> "Marlowe Fairhurst" (fairhurst.marlowe@mgh.harvard.edu) wrote:
>
>Anyone know of a good emulator for the Tandem? I'm currently running
>CTT/Cail for windows, but it has problems running under Windows NT.
>
>Is there a 32 bit emulator?


      We have a coporate license for WIN6530.  We switched from the 
old Tandem 6530 terminals to WIN6530 several years ago.  It's working
great.  We have started to use the 32-bit version.  The only issue is
that we don't seem to be able to get the USA who was the original
company who sold us the product to send us the current WIN6530
manual.  I checked with them at last year's ITUG and was told that
the German version was being translated to English and not yet
available.  I should check with ACI who acruired  either the product
or the company.  However, an old user of WIN6530 should not have
trouble with the new versions of the product even without a manual. 
It is that simple to use (In my opinion).  

  An issue we have is that products like WIN6530 take away the ability
to accurately track where is the PC that had logged on to the Tandem
(for Tacl or Pathway session) because IP addresses are not physically
tied to a PC like the PTP 6530 terminals.  One can get close to a
group of PCs at a location, but not necessarily a specific PC.  Audit
does not like this because they feel that if someone was trying to
access the Tandem on a PC in an unauthorized manner, we cannot
determine exactly where was the PC that was used.  Tandem had
committed to implement an enhancement to log to EMS log  connect and
disconnect messages per logon session.  That is a step in the right
direction (this still does not solve the above problem completely),
but there is no reporting capability - there is a lot of other info
in the EMS log.  Perhaps, a third party vendor will find this as an
opportunity to create a reporting product.  Perhaps others have
comments on this matter.  Thanks

Andy

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From: "Jay Madore" <jay_madore@myna.com>
Subject: Re: 6530 for NT With x6530 Features?


For a list of links to available 6530 emulators,
check out:

    http://www.myna.com/~jmadore/emulator.html

Take a look at the different products, and decide yourself.

Jay Madore
Madore Consulting Group Inc.
http://www.myan.com/~jmadore

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Subject: Re: Java 6530 Terminal Emulator


In message <5itv9l$3b5@unix2.sba.com>, dbossi@attmail.com (Dave Bossi) wrote:
>
>As a general F.Y.I...
>
>A CD-ROM from Tektonic Software (a business unit of Tandem Computers)
>was recently dropped on my desk and - given the large thread that
>developed around the 6530 emulator posting - I thought I'd share my
>small amount of experience with this product.
>
>The CD-ROM contains a small web server and a Java applet that provides
>6530 emulation for Java-enabled browsers.  I happened to be using
>Netscape 3.0 and it worked as advertised on my PC.  My Sun
>SparcStation was a different story as I could not get the bottom row
>of buttons to display completely.
>
>Installation of the server took only a few minutes and - amazingly
>enough - the instructions were accurate.
>
>The emulator is fast and the mapping appears to be accurate.  There is
>no file up/download capability in this version (1.02) and some of the
>keyboard keys don't work (insert in Tedit was one), however the push
>button keys on the bottom of the screen work OK.  You can also
>release the Java applet from the browser and create a standalone
>window. (Pardon me for not knowing the correct term for this!)
>
>I haven't tried any of the color settings, but I have tried the
>multiple windows and that feature works great.
>
>Realizing that not everyone is allowed to run Java-applets if they are
>connected to the Internet, this may have a limited audience until
>security concerns are resolved at the corporate level.  I didn't call
>for pricing info (I have an expiring demo copy) but it may be worth
>checking out as way to eliminate one other emulator from users'
>desktops.
>
>For more info you might look at www.tektonic.com although I haven't
>been there.

It's a 3.2 Meg file.  Once I finally dowloaded it I installed it and
it seems to be working fine. I'm still testing with it, but we are
having all sorts of ideas pop up on how to use this new tool.

Great work Tektonic and keep the good work flowing.


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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 11:31:49 -0500
From: "Richard S. Pope" <richpope@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Need Tandem 6530 emulator badly

Tandem just announced a new hardware product AWAN which provides a
number of features:

    - remote access (RAS dial-in from Win95, Win/NT,, Novell, etc)
    - async support for 6530 (needed for S-Series)
    - emulation of 6530 on VT100 terminals and emulators

This last feature allows virtually any workstation with a Telnet client
(such as Windows 3.1/95/NT, Unix, Mac) to access host 6530 applications
without any application changes or any host overhead.

The Tandem product data sheet is at:
        http://www.tandem.com/INFOCTR/PROD_DES/AWANASPD/AWANASPD.HTM
The press release is at
        http://www.tandem.com/pres_rel/accbeypl/accbeypl.htm

Fair warning:  Gemini Communications provided the 6530 and VT100
software for this product.

Rich Pope
Gemini Communications


   [Update, June 1997--it's been moved to:   ...]


   [Update, May 1998--it's been moved again:
    http://www.tandem.com/prod_des/awanaspd/awanaspd.htm    ]

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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:20:42 -0700
From: "Edward (Ted) de Beaudrap" <edward.debeaudrap@telus.com>
Subject: Re: Info Tadem Term Emulator for PC

> > Anyone have info where i can get a terminal emulator to run on a PC
> > to act as a Tandem workstation??
> >
> > Frank
> >

I would recommend that you also have a close look at CAIL's CTT.  In
competes well with Crystal Point's Outside View.  It has Multiple
sessions over a dialup asynchronous connections as well as a HLLAPI
interface, both things that Outside View does not have.  Also, if you
are going to the Windows '95 version, then mapping F16 and SF16 becomes
an issue.  Neither emulator allows ALT-F6 to be used, but CAIL at least
allows CTRL-F6.

Go to Website:

    http://www.cail.com/

or contact Ron Thompson at <ront@cail.com>

    CAIL Systems, Ltd.
    665 Hood Road
    Markham, Ontario L3R 4E1
    Canada

    Voice: +1 905/940-9000 
      Fax: +1 905/940-9009
    Email: <info@cail.com>

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Programmer Analyst Specialist II
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    Contact: Ron Bowden

    The old address was on Peachtree Street in Atlanta; here's the 1998 address:

    Bowden Systems, Inc. 
    Suite 170
    35 Technology Parkway South
    Norcross, GA 30092
    voice: +1 770/613-5304
      fax: +1 770/613-5305

    email: <bowden@bsi.com>

      Web: http://www.bsi.com/
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Products:   BSI-x6530 Unix X-Window 6530 Emulator  (and API)
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:34:09 +0100
From: "Alexander Burton" <alexb@feast.org>
Subject: Re: PC6530 and WIN95

J. Gebhardt first wrote:
>>>
>>> I have installed an async connection using pc6530 g50 on a win 95
>>> workstation. The session starts up fine the first time after
>>> a system boot, but stopping the session and restarting it does not
>>> work. I get a "CSS 18 Too many opens" message. Well,
>>> the book says that it is because the LAN6530 driver needs to be
>>> configured with a higher values. But, like I said this is an
>>> async connection. Any help would be appreciated.
>

>In article <35361730.FD391BFD@ghit.co.uk>, Tandem Utility (Cliff)
>(gh045@ghit.co.uk) wrote:
>>I`ve not used this on Win95 but it sounds to me like you`re not ending
>>your PCT session when you come out of it :-
>>
>>If you CTRL-END from pct then it Stops the pct emulator.
>>If you ALT-END from pct then the emulator is left running and would hold
>>the port open.  From here you should re-activate the session instead of
>>starting another.
>>
>>So check that you are actually ending the PCT.
>>Hope this helps
>>
>>Cliff

J. Gebhardt then wrote in message <6h5ep5$65o@unix2.sba.com>...
>Cliff,
>I forgot to say that this only happens when I close the window not
>when I press ctrl-end. I guess what I am trying to ask is more of a
>win95 questions. I thought that the dos session running the emulator
>was a virtual dos session and when I closed out the session (click
>the X in the corner) that all resources should be freed up. I know
>in os/2 that this is the case. Anyone have any insight into win95?
>

Usually when you click on the X icon in Windows95 inside a DOS program such
as PCT then you get a "Windows cannot shut down this program automatically"
message. Are you getting this ? You can only dismiss a DOS session in the
way you describe cleanly by clicking on the X icon once you are back at the
command line.

The simple answer is not to click on the X icon and to CTRL+END :-)

Regards,

Alexander Burton
-- 
<alexb@feast.org>

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Access Beyond (used to be Penril/Datability) sells terminal servers
that do 6530-to-VT320 protocol conversion.

    http://www.accessbeyond.com/

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From: "Richard S. Shuford" <shuford@list.stratagy.com>
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 14:37:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Tandem 6530 terminal emulation

In message <354AA765.D07AD535@concentric.net>, Dana Hall wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a Tandem 6530 terminal emulator that runs on
> Linux, perferably X and is free or shareware?  Thanks.
 
 
There is no such freeware or shareware.
 
Computer-using institutions who would buy a Tandem system typically have
lots of money. Their managers generally, by policy, will allow use of
only supported commercial products, be it a Unix operating system or a
terminal emulator. So, for them, a shareware terminal emulator under
freeware Linux is an answer to the wrong question. 
 
(Somebody has to pay for those Tandem salesmen, who historically have
been the highest paid salepeople of any company in the entire computer
industry...)
 
The most likely Linux solution would be the Java emulation applet
"J6530 Server" from Tektonic Software (a Tandem subsidiary):
 
    http://www.tektonic.com/
 
Otherwise, a lot of shops seem to buy CrystalPoint's OutsideView:
 
    http://www.outside.com/default.htm
 
Teemtalk is also a decent product:
 
    http://www.pericom.co.uk/
 
Here's an idea: have the institution trade in the Tandem for a
Stratus machine.  Then it (and you) can use a VT320 emulation.  :-)
 
 ...RSS
 

--  
(P.S. I have a slight bias here, since I work for Stratus Computer,
the other big fault-tolerant computer vendor.  :-)
 
    http://www.stratus.com/
    1-800/STRATUS

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The ICE product from Insession offers IBM and TCP/IP connectivity for Tandem.

    Insession, Inc.
    100 Arapahoe Ave.
    Boulder, CO 80302  USA

    +1 303/440-3300
     1-800/414-7759
    +31 20 301 7878
    +61 2 9512 0222

    http://www.insession.com/



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Otto van Rijswijk wrote:
> 
> And now maybe the importantst thing: the support on WIN6530 is excellent
> and the company behind Outside View is gone.


Sorry, Otto, unless something happened to them in the last couple of
days, Crystal Point is alive and well and still marketing and supporting
Outside View.  They are at +1 206/487-3656 or <sales@outside.com>.

We use their product and are pleased with it.

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NEW (1997) WEB SITE:  http://www.crystalpoint.com/

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Subject: Attn all Outside View users
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Date: 08 Jun 1998 06:52:35 GMT

I recommend anyone using or considering purchasing the OutsideView software
from Crystal Point to look at other vendors.  This company is at risk from
several standpoints, listed below.

Management: Last November, Crystal Point fired the director of sales and
marketing.  He was not replaced.  Not long after the engineering manager was
pushed out the door.  He was not replaced either.  Now management consists of a
contractor engineering manager and a contractor project manager (both
essentially part time).  The CEO herself is managing the sales department with
the help of the finance manager.  The finance manager is also running
operations and human resources (personnel).  Does this sound like a
well-managed company to you?

Product: Last fall at ITUG, Crystal Point had a flashy new booth and heavily
promoted a new web browser based solution they called OutsideView Server.  They
had no product to show but ran a nice piece of demoware (built specifically for
ITUG) as a proof of concept.  Internally this product was supposed to be the
future direction of the company.  In January the project was killed.  The new
direction was supposed to be a new version of OutsideView internally known as
"6.0".  Since CP hadn't put out any new products in a while they knew they
needed to do something.  The plans called for keeping the same core product
that is now 5.1 but only adding a flashy new user interface and some minor
customer requests.  They didn't want to tamper with the core code they had
finally gotten working.  Now 6 months later, they have yet to finish the
specifications for 6.0 or even decide on a name for the product (a finished
mailing was yanked at the last minute promoting a product called OutsideView
2000).  So don't expect any tangible products at ITUG this year either.

People: The loss of a major executive and the well-liked engineering manager
was not lost on the employees.  Over half the company has quit (they are down
to about 18 regular full time people from a high of around 36).  The only
position that has been refilled, the only one, was a salesperson.  No
engineers.  Sounds like "sell sell sell" but not "build build build".

CEO: Chris Stephens (pronounced STEFF-ens) is a unique woman.  She says she
built the company out of nothing, but more likely she was in the right place at
the right time.  Her husband and company co-founder Fred developed a terminal
emulator.  Tandem computers came to them with an exclusive offer to sell the
product.  Hard to beat that kind of backing. It was a contentious partnership. 
The nickname for Chris around Tandem was (and probably still is) "The Dragon
Lady".  Her temper is well-known. But she runs a multimillion dollar company. 
Not bad for a high school dropout with no formal business training.  And it
shows.  She treats people like cattle, which probably explains the quick exodus
of highly-skilled engineers and others.  And probably also explains why only 6
employees have been with the company more than two years.

Co-founder: Fred Stephens was the computer whiz whose product made Crystal
Point.  He also has "left" the company to "pursue other directions".  Whatever
the real reason, the co-founder and technical visionary of OutsideView is no
longer with the company.

The Company: Every employee who has ever left Crystal Point has left in anger. 
Perhaps that explains the legal trouble the company faces.  A sexual
harrassment lawsuit was settled out of court.  A wrongful termination lawsuit
has been filed by the former sales and marketing executive. Many others could
do the same thing if they wish.  Two employees, for example, were terminated
under circumstances of blatant age discrimination.  Also the company is being
investigated by the IRS (the USA's tax revenue agency) for its shady monetary
dealings.  (Allegedly, the company has been billed for things such as wedding
showers, private dinners, even redecorating the Stephens' house.)

Profitability: In response to a rumor in PC Week in January, the CEO said the
company's revenue was up 22% over last year.  And the company was above
projections for the fiscal year.  Yet at the end of the fiscal year, the CEO
reports that the company conveniently "broke even" due to "several one-time
extraordinary expenses" and therefore no profit-sharing bonuses would be paid. 
Were there really expenses or were too many ex-employees vested under the
company's 401(k) retirement plan and would have been due their profit share?

In short, this is a company that is spiralling towards disappearance.  You
should not buy any more product from them, or you might find yourself with no
one to support it.

Ken Jackson

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From: corpdrone@aol.com (CorpDrone)
Subject: Re: Attn all Outside View users

> I recommend anyone using or considering purchasing the OutsideView software
> from Crystal Point to look at other vendors.  This company is at risk from
> several standpoints, listed below.

I've gotten a lot emails asking if the negative post on Crystal Point is true. 
It's good to be skeptical.  I can tell you this information comes from several
ex-employees and is very reliable.

They have reasons to be mad.  These are professionals.  Many worked nights and
weekends for months to meet deadlines.  It's only normal to take it personally
when your profit sharing has suspisciously disappeared.  The CEO is a
multimillionaire who earned her money from others' hard work.  Taking this info
public exposes her lack of morals and ethics.

There is also a large installed base of OutsideView.  If Crystal Point
disappears, it impacts a lot of companies (and you) out there.

CP will try to put a positive spin on this info.  When you hear it, realize it
for what it is.  Don't fault the remaining employees for trying to do their
jobs.  Just don't buy any more product.

-- 
Ken Jackson
<corpdrone@aol.com>

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:05:13 GMT
From: "Steve" <shaugh@home.com>
Subject: Re: Attn all Outside View users

From: dbossi@attmail.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
Subject: Re: Attn all Outside View users

In message <6ljaas$d8d$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, Dave Bossi <dbossi@attmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Anyone else who has been around Tandem for the past 15-20 years think
> this sounds like 90 percent of the companies that grew up in the
> incestuous Tandem world?"
>
> I have to admit that this story gave me a good laugh and brought back
> many fond memories of similar companies over the years (although I also
> must say that *I* wouldn't have put in print for all to see.


...ever notice how many of us Tandem programmers have large foreheads
and narrow eyes and sort of a dopey look on our faces?


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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:37:26 -0700
From: aziz jellouli <azizj@crystalpoint.com>
Subject: Letter From Crystal Point Inc.

June 10, 1998

Dear OutsideView User:

Several months ago, Crystal Point underwent an extensive reorganization
in an effort to upgrade our management team and rebuild expertise in key
areas to take the company to the next level. In the aftermath, there has
been false and malicious gossip circulated about our company and
management. We are dismayed and saddened that certain individuals have
seen fit to respond negatively to our positive steps.

Crystal Point is committed to delivering excellent products and services
to our customers, and to providing a constructive, positive working
environment for all our employees.

I want to take this opportunity to share with you some exciting
specifics on our progress and call a couple of important initiatives to
your attention.

First, our product research and development efforts have been
reinvigorated with the addition of Mr. David Gilman. Mr. Gilman is
former Director of Product Development at Attachmate, and an 8-year
Microsoft veteran in technical management and system development
positions. We have high confidence in Mr. Gilman's significant technical
vision and experience. He continues the legacy of Crystal Point
co-founder, Fred Stephens, who is now devoting his energy to another new
business opportunity, and remains involved in the company as a trusted
advisor on technical and sales issues.

Second, Version 6.0 of our 32-bit OutsideView software product is
scheduled for release this fall. While we continue to develop an
appropriate product name, our engineers diligently work to support its
1998 release. As stated some months ago, the development of Outside View
Server has been suspended pending further research and a clearer
efinition of user requirements. Most features intended for the Server
are now being incorporated into Outside View 6.0. These include:

   * over-the-network installations and maintenance updates;
   * data encryption for TCP/IP networks;
   * more flexibility for interface customization; and
   * more administrative controls to prevent unauthorized changes.

Third, Marketing and Sales is now under my direction and we have
strengthened our team with a senior project manager and two marketing
experts to support our extensive market research initiative. We have
undertaken this initiative to assess the new and emerging needs of our
customers, so that we can continue to provide market-leading
connectivity products as Tandem technology and industry evolve.
Thank you for your continued support of our company. If you have any
questions, please feel free to contact us. We welcome your feedback and
inquiries.

Sincerely,

Chris Stephens
Chief Executive Officer

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Message-ID: <35694ec5.11540511@news.eunet.be>
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 11:00:02 GMT
From: Koenp@bigfoot.com
Subject: Re: Outside View 5.1


On 21 May 1998 01:16:43 GMT, in message <01bd8456$05ecc9a0$0c01450a@jeffrey>,
"Jeffrey Chua" <jeffreychua@oub.com.sg> wrote:
>
> Has anyone experience success in using Outisde View 5.1
> to TELNET to a EICON X.25 GATEWAY (Windows NT server)?
> We have encountered some problems with this form of connectivity
> although we managed to obtain TACL prompt.

Hi Jeffery,

I am a technical support person from the company Crystal Point ( the
European office ) and we have a document how to setup your system to
be able to use X.25 toghether with OV 5.1. I'll send the document to
your email address, just let me know if it works for you

Koen

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Date: 24 Jun 1998 17:44:54 GMT
From: RGalloway3 <rgalloway3@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Letter From Crystal Point Inc.

In article <6mrbvn$po9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, fcote@cme.com writes:

>Only two complaints; 1. "Ctl
>O" brings up the "Open" window which is a pain if you're in alternate
>character mode because of a line hit or fup copy an object file.

Use Shift-Ctrl-O to send a Ctrl-O character.

> 2. "Ctl
>enter" is mapped to something so Seeview users can't do some functions.

You should be able to use the Key Mapper in the Options menu to un-map that
key.  Look at the "End of (Line/Field)" function.

Rich

Rich Galloway                            rgalloway3@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:30:45 GMT
From: dlmiller@inetdirect.net
Subject: Re: Letter From Crystal Point Inc.

In article <358dd0bd.1310493@news3.ibm.net>,
   kande00@ibm.net (Kelvin Anderson) wrote:
>Unfortunate, I have not experienced the GPF's you speak of, I'm
>familiar with CTT for windows and it works quite well. I believe OV
>5.1 is far more flexible than any other 6530 emulator I've used so
>far. 

That may be. OV 5.0, however, is extremely unstable. We have observed
repeated GPFs and "hung" PCs repeatedly while using OV 5.0 under Win95
despite the fact that 5.0 was supposedly specifically designed to run
on that platform. I hope 5.1 is better.

OV 4.1 seems much more stable under Win95 than 5.0, although it is 
not free of problems (returning from a Windows screen saver while
in block mode causes a GPF, IXF doesn't work, and a few other little
jewels).

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Organization: American Medical Laboratories
Message-ID: <OY3d$Y2o9GA.324@ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com>
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:00:16 -0400
From: Marshall Stewart <73252.2477@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Function keys

I am trying to use a Tandem 6530 terminal with an RS/6000 
(pass-thru from the Tandem). The problem I have is that the 6530 
appends the cursor location onto the function key control 
sequence. Is there a way to ignore the last byte? A wildcard 
character or something?
^A
Thanks.

^A
Marshall Stewart
stewpub@aol.com


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:33:40 GMT
From: dbossi@attmail.com
Subject: Re: Nonstop programming sample in NMC
 
In article <35b30911.0@news.ic-marl.de>,
  "Alex Lewandowski" <a.lewandowski@infracor.de> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Is there anyone out there having an source  example of Native Mode C
> handling Nonstop Programming (create Backup-Process etc.).

 
Probably not because I don't believe this was carried along in the C
implementation of the Tandem-specific functions.  You will have to
create your own.  It's pretty straightforward if you think through the
tasks that the TAL system calls perform.
 
Dave

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
Subject: Re: Anybody programming ATM monitoring, BASE24, TANDEM EMULATORS ?
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 02:26:54 GMT
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If i understand your post correctly You may need to define the
terminal type in the telnet service (Base24)  parameter field.

For Example:

Under the Telnet services

The PROGRAM name is $SYSTEM.SYSTEM.PATHCOM the parameter should look
like
" $PPMN;RUN PS40-LOGON,TYPE 6:4"
The "TYPE 6:4" passes the terminal type to the application, and you
should be presented with a BASE24 logon screen. This is pretty typical
for blockmode applications running on a Telnet session.


"Alex" <lgg@graph.kursk.ru> wrote:

>Hi all !
>
>I'm use OutsideView 4.0 with tandem terminal emulation (6530) support.
>
>Access for ATM monitoring performing in next case:
>
>1. Connection to host by simply telnet entry throuth TCP/IP Win Sock
>2. Host emit "TACL>" promt
>3. I'm sending to host "Logon <Username> 0dh 0ah <Password>"
>4. Host return next main menu:
>    - Base24 logon
>    - EMS peruse
>5. I'm select first point and entrance to ATM monitoring ONLY IF I'M USE
>6530 EMULATOR, else (if using telnet) host say, that my terminal emulation
>does not supported Base24 !!!!
>????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>QUESTION: HOW ACCES TO BASE24 BY T E L N E T (Win Sock, LowLevel
>TCP/IP) or may be anybody known other way???
>
>HELP ME PLEASE !!!
>
>ALEX.
>







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Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
Subject: Re: FORMAT 6530 emulation (Help me !)
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Alex,

In order to do a good job of creating a new emulator you'll need a lot of
experience with the various versions of both Tandem and others 6530/6526
emulators.  Among the emulators that have existed are: PCT/PC6530, Tandem
Terminal Emulator (TTE), CAIL's T6530 (CTT), Crystal Point's Emulator,
FutureSoft's DynaComm Tandem 6530, CASEMaker's DRSE, and other's I can't
remember at this time (sorry to any of you I've forgotten to mention).

The single best source of information on the 6530 protocols is the 6530
Multipage Terminal Programming Guide that was published about 14 years ago.
 To my knowledge you'll have to find one that someone is willing to part
with as they are out of print and have been for a long time.  There are
also many user's guides and manuals from the emualtor vendors that can be
very helpful: CTT Communication Facility Operator Guide (CAIL Systems),
Tandem Terminal Emulators User's Guide, 6530 Multi-Page Terminal Users
Guide, PC6530 User's Guide (Tandem), 6526 Multi-Page Terminal Installation
and Operation Guide, etc.

A word of caution:  there are lots of undocumented "features" that you'll
have to find by testing your emulator with every piece of software Tandem
(and some customers) ever wrote.  If you are only going to support TCP/IP
it will cut down on the number of these nasty "got you" features that you
have to deal with.

Alex <lgg@graph.kursk.ru> wrote in article
<01bc9fe6$03eba2c0$0586d00a@alex>...
> Hi !
>
> Please help me !
>
> I want to write 6530 emulator throuth telnet WinSocket.
>
> Where i can get docs about format of tandem emulation?
>
> Alex.
> RUSSIA
>
>




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Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 12:38:42 GMT
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From: Dave Calderon <dcsysman@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: FORMAT 6530 emulation (Help me !)


There was also an even rarer addemdum to the Tandem published manual that worth
its wieght in gold if you can find it. It had some really deep info on escape
codes not found in the original manual.






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Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 22:07:00 -0400
From: freds@cyberzone.net (Fred S.)
Subject: Re: FORMAT 6530 emulation (Help me !)

Dave Calderon <dcsysman@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
>
>There was also an even rarer addemdum to the Tandem published manual that worth
>its wieght in gold if you can find it. It had some really deep info on escape
>codes not found in the original manual.
>
For instance, how to do color register and palette mapping under host
control.   Of course, few people ever used this function, since Scobol
was not enhanced to support it (to the best of my knowledge).

My employer happens to be one of the odd companies which used 6530s
without Pathway and did exotic things with custom 6530 TAL programs, so
I happen to have all of this information sitting right on my desk.

Now, the question is just how much can I reproduce for others without
getting in trouble with Tandem on copyright issues?


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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:44:21 -0400
From: Raymond DeVoe <rdevoe@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Announce: Tandem 6530 Client Option for Windows CE

Jeff Iverson wrote in message <35fddd81.201310510@news.mctcnet.net>...
>http://www.digitalriver.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.Entry10?SP=10023&PN=1&V1=109872&xid=5712
>
>DynaComm Connectivity Series for Handheld PCs (DCS-H/PC) combines the
>power of the enterprise with the flexibility of mobile computing. With
>the availability of the Tandem 6530 Client Option, the functionality
>of DCS-H/PC is extended to provide access to the Tandem environment.
>Proven stability and excellent performance make DCS-H/PC the preferred
>business solution for customers who have the need to access multiple
>hosts from a handheld device. The DCS-H/PC core product must be
>installed to utilize this Client Option.
>
>..Supported Emulation
>....Tandem 6530^Wwith EM3270 support
>
>..Network Connectivity
>....Telnet (TCP/IP)
>....Modem (TAPI)
>....Direct Serial
>

> http://www.digitalriver.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.Entry10?SP=10023&PN=1&V1=109872&xid=5712



How about doing something like this for the PalmPilot?

-Ray-


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References: <71m58j$7j4@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 12:21:57 GMT
From: Martin Bölkow <martin.bolkow@youngwood.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
Subject: Re: 653x Escape Sequences

Dear Priyo,

Get the 'Tandem NonStop TCP/IP Applications user Guide' (117469) appendx D:
TN6530 Control Codes and Escape Sequences and read all about them!

With Regards,
Martin Bölkow

YoungWood Solutions
#1 in Business-critical Computing Consultancy

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References: <365af50a.0@p3.isdn.net.il>
Organization: Dean Malone And Associates
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:15:49 -0500
From: Dean Malone <dmalone@ibm.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
Subject: Re: Tandem specific telnet commands.

Cherny Michael wrote:

> I have strange telnet command which is undocumented in RFC and any other
> place I looked in.
> Does anyone know is there tandem-specific telnet commands?
> Any help will be mostly appreciated!!!

The truth is that there are two flavors of telnet on NSK.  If you are doing
6530 terminal emulation, this happens against the Telnet well-known port but
it is a TACL process managing the session.  Only TACL commands work.  If you
want an OSS (i.e. UNIX) terminal session, you need to modify your TCP/IP
telnet server to offer OSS as an alternate command line interpreter.  When
you set this up, you get a sh shell and you get dropped in a default home
directory in the OSS file space.  If you don't know this, OSS is a UNIX
shell and SVR4 compliant implementation implemented on top of the NSK OS.
This shell interface will act like a real UNIX shell.  The terminal
emulation is typically VT-100.  I trust this clarifies things for you.

-- 
Dean

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:33:38 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
From: joe.peterson@text.mindspring.com
Subject: Re: Clearing 6530 terminal screen

On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:00:54 GMT, dnicholls@nospam.acm.org (Dean
Nicholls) murmured:

>I need a to write a program that needs to be able to write data to a
>terminal and then after being prompted clear the screen, and have the
>cursor return home. People have told me this is relatively simple
>using "escape sequences". Unfortunately perusal of both TIM and CDREAD
>has not turned these guys up, other than to inform me that they
>exist....
>
>The program will be written in TAL, executed from the TACL prompt and
>use simple 6530 terminal IO (ie open the terminal and use writeread
>etc.).
>Any help will be appreciated.

By no means can I claim to be an expert on T6530 escape sequences, but
I use a couple of them in my TACL code.  There are countless others,
of course, but that mythical manual that used to explain them all is
as rare as rare can get.

Note that in the notations below, to avoid confusion, I specify the
ASCII character code table entry numbers for each byte.  E.g.: <27>
means the escape character, <111> is a lower-case "o", etc.

Anyway, here are the ones I know:

clear screen to page 0 ==> <27><73>
start writing to line 25 ==> <27><111>
(writing to l25 is terminated by a carriage return/line feed)
turn on reverse video ==> <27><54><36>
turn on reverse video/dim ==> <27><54><37>
turn all attributes off ==> <27><54><40>

It's been ages since I coded these, so I don't even remember from
where I got the sequences, but they do work.  I do remember that the
third byte in the reverse video/dim sequences is a bit mask indicating
which attributes should be turned on or off, but that's as far as can
remember.  Hope that helps!
\_((o))_/
Joe

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:30:28 -0400
Organization: Netcom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
From: louv <louv@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Clearing 6530 terminal screen

I've done it in TACL but you can also write a program. I used the CLEAR
command without any arguments to clear the screen. The arguments ALL, ASSIGN
and PARAM were left intact.

    #FRAME
    #PUSH :^arg
    [#CASE [#ARGUMENT/VALUE :^arg/ KEYWORD/WORDLIST all assign param/
OTHERWISE]
    | 1 |
      [#CASE [:^arg]
      |all|    [#CASE [#ARGUMENT/VALUE :^arg/ KEYWORD/WORDLIST assign param/
END]
               |1| [#CASE [:^arg]
                    |assign| #SET #ASSIGN
                    |param|  #SET #PARAM
                    ]
               |2| #SET #ASSIGN
                   #SET #PARAM
               ]
      |assign| [#IF [#ARGUMENT/VALUE :^arg/ ASSIGN/SYNTAX/]
               |THEN|
                 #SET #ASSIGN [:^arg]
               ]
      |param|  [#IF [#ARGUMENT/VALUE :^arg/ PARAM/SYNTAX/]
               |THEN|
                 #SET #PARAM [:^arg]
               ]
      ]
    |OTHERWISE|
      [#IF NOT [#VARIABLEINFO/EXISTENCE/ scrn^clr^]
      |THEN|
        #PUSH scrn^clr^
        #SET/TYPE DELTA/ cmds^ 27III$
        #SET scrn^clr^ [#DELTA/COMMANDS cmds^/]
        #SET ctr^ [#COMPUTE [ctr^] + 1 ]
      ]
      #OUTPUT [scrn^clr^]
    ]
    #UNFRAME

-- 
lou

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Organization: RoadRunner - TampaBay
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:02:45 GMT
Organization: RoadRunner - TampaBay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
From: Art Rice <arice1@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Clearing 6530 terminal screen

The TACL Programming Manual clearly demonstrates the use of
a STRUCT and #DEF to clear the screen using ESC I (eye).
Code Follows:

?SECTION cls MACRO
#FRAME
==  define the clear screen escape sequence
[#DEF ascii STRUCT
   BEGIN
         BYTE  byt0 (0:1) value 27 73;     == decimal escape-I
         CHAR clear (0:1)  REDEFINES byt0;
   END;
]
#OUTPUT [ascii:clear(0:1)]
#UNFRAME

In TAL you would need to:
define a LITERAL  ESC = 27;
define clear  = ESC,"I"#;

and write it to the terminal.
Actually, after checking   ESC-I clears the memory (of the terminal).

Hope this helps.Tandem's Multipage Terminal Programming Manual
has been out of print for a long time.  How come the D48 manuals still
refer us back to a manual that is not in print and not on-line?

-- 
Art Rice

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Organization: Dr. Buelow & Masiak GmbH - Internet Center Marl
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:56:18 +0200
Organization: Dr. Buelow & Masiak GmbH - Internet Center Marl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
From: Alex Lewandowski <a.lewandowski@infracor.de>
Subject: Re: Clearing 6530 terminal screen

see Appendix D: TN6530 Control Codes and Escape
Sequences of Tandem NonStop TCP/IP Applications User Guide^×117469

in TIM -Manual.
Hope this helps.


regards Alex


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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:11:49 +0200
Organization: Missing Data Link
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
From: Jean -Jacques de Beaufort <jj_debeaufort_mdlink@csi.com>
Subject: Re: Clearing 6530 terminal screen

Hi,

here are some esc sequence find in 653x multi-page terminal installation and
operation guide ( 82308 b00 may 1984) a very old ref manual

ESC H cursor home
ESC J erase from cursor to end of page
ESC L insert a line (in block mode)
ESC M delete a line (in block mode)
ESC 6x  ( set video attribute) --> ESC6space=nornal, ESC6!=dim,
ESC6$=reverse, ESC60=underscore,ESC6&=reverse blinking
and more
ESCo display text on 25th line

many other ESC sequences are avalaible...

I hope these help you

regards
Jean


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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:37:18 -0700
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
From: Charles Domingue <charlesd@crystalpoint.com>
Subject: Re: Outside View 32

Hello OutsideView32 Users;
Thank you for the lively thread on OutsideView32 issues.  The slow session
switching and mnemonics by default problems described in this thread have
been addressed in our most recent release, OutsideView32 6.0A.  This release
is available at no charge to any registered user of OutsideView32 6.0.
Please contact us by phone at (425)806-1143 or submit a Technical Support
Request via our web site, www.crystalpoint.com/techform.htm, and a CDROM
will be rushed to you.

Please be aware that technical support is available at no charge for any
registered OutsideView user.

Best Regards;
Charles Domingue
Crystal Point Technical Support


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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:27:15 -0500
Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
From: Richard S. Pope <richpope@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Using a Terminal Server and 6526 terminal

Curt Bates wrote:
>
> I am trying to setup a Digi Network Terminal Server (Port Server) with
> a 6526 terminal.  The terminal is connected to the port server and it
> is configured to telnet into the Tandem system.  This works for
> conversational mode, but not full screen mode.  The port server is
> setup to tell TELSERV that the terminal is "tn6530".  This is where I
> think the problem is.
>
> Has anyoneelse tried this?  Anybody have an idea on what the correct
> terminal setting is?

6530 family terminals (like the 6526) have a moderately complex async
protocol which is implemented in the old 36xx and 61xx controllers, and
nowadays in the AWAN terminal server products from Tandem (3883/4/5 and
soon 3886).  AWAN handles both the proprietary async protocol to the
terminal and the proprietary TN6530 protocol into Tandem Telserv.

Anything else treats the terminal like a dumb-ascii device - strictly
line by line mode.  If you want full screen, you have to get an AWAN.

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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:32:30 GMT
Organization: AEX-IT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
From: Tandem Systeembeheer <tandem@serv.see.sig.optiebeurs.nl>
Subject: Re: Using a Terminal Server and 6526 terminal

crbates@bigfoot.com (Curt Bates) wrote:
>
>I am trying to setup a Digi Network Terminal Server (Port Server) with
>a 6526 terminal.

Not sure what you are trying to accomplish; 1 terminal server and a terminal?

We have dircect terminals setup far away from the computer center in two ways:
1: tandem - TD MUX - dedicated serial cable - TD MUX - Terminal
2: tandem - terminal server - IP network (i.e. FTP cabling) - terminal server -
terminal

first solution is the simplest but requires dedicated cable
second solution needs some tweaking to get the break across; sometimes we need
a reset of
the terminal server ports after a cold load of the tandem.

HtH
Andre
-- 
Andre Hoekstra - tandem@serv.optiebeurs.see.sig.nl (change .see.sig.nl to .nl
when replying!)
The most interesting information comes from children, for they tell all they
know and then stop. - Mark Twain

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:30:52 -0400
From: Hobson Bruce <hobsonb@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
Subject: Re: Using a Terminal Server and 6526 terminal

In article <37BD5835.1333@ix.netcom.com> , "Richard S. Pope"
<richpope@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> Thanks for the vote of confidence, but a few corrections are needed:
>
> Hobson Bruce wrote:
>
>> But, You can use any Terminal Server. IF and again, I say IF and only if the
>> Terminal Server acts as a pipe. And doesn't change, exchange of other wise
>> mess with the data. And only acts as a pass-thru device. Even with the Break
>> key and long-break, etc.. good luck on that one.

> Single -vs- paired terminal servers need to be distinguished.  A pair of
> generic terminal servers can function like a pair of traditional (i.e.
> almost obsolete) multiplexors or even x.3 pads.  In this case, the pair
> or terminal servers, or whatever, are acting as an async pipe, analogous
> to a pair of modems: the async stuff is coverted to something that can
> carry over a TCP/IP network or whatever medium connects the pair.  If
> the async pipe is perfectly carried, then what you in effect have is a
> very long async cable that logically directly connects the 6526 into the
> Tandem 36xx/61xx async controller.   Your "IF" is a good point:
> propagation of break (frequently used with Tandem terminals) is a
> problem; in fact most terminal servers don't do it at all.

> Additionally, data can move "jerky" bursts and aggravate timeout
> problems.  The end-to-end delay is noticable in block mode where an ACK
> needs to flow back for every 256 bytes of screen data.  Even a 0.1
> second end-to-end delay adds up to 2.4 additional seconds for an
> all-too-typical 3000 byte Pathway screen.  Make sure you have XON flow
> control disabled, and in fact all characters are passed through.  XON is
> used heavily (set screen address) in 6530 block mode, and LRC characters
> (from terminal or host) can assume any 8-bit value.  THe cost of a
> *pair* of terminal servers has to be considered.
>
> Single terminal servers - with a TCP/IP connection into a Tandem
> ethernet controller, are another thing.  As my previous email mentioned,
> conversational (line-by-line) mode will work 99% OK with any terminal
> server, but block mode requires an AWAN.
>
>> The one thing none of the other terminal servers can do is current-loop
>> connections. (Up to 1500 feet) and Tandem T-Tap protocol with old Tandem
>> printers. Except for a AWAN of course.

> Current-loop *can* be handled by external current-loop adapters, but
> this is clunky and can get expensive.  AWAN current-loop is the clear
> winner here.
>
> AWAN actually does *not* handle T-TAP protocol.  Fastptcp does all the
> T-TAP stuff, and AWAN is acting 100% in passthrough mode.  Presumably
> *any* terminal server will handle this as well as AWAN, since Fastptcp
> is doing all the polling and checking of "ACK".  The only things that
> AWAN handles differently for Fastptcp (i.e. AWAN Port Type Hardcopy) are
> items which apply to dumb printers and do not matter for T-TAP: (1) when
> Port Flow CTS is used, AWAN will not accept an open for the port if CTS
> is down - "don't start a print job when the printer is offline to begin
> with", and (2) when Fastptcp sends IAC DO TM at the end of job, AWAN
> does not respond until all queued data has been sent out the async
> port.  Again, although neither of these apply to T-TAP printers, they
> are very useful for dumb printers and give AWAN a big advantage over
> other terminal servers in this regard.



Like I said. (Value added by Richard Pope.)

Bruce :-)


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References: <3c964.2312$Rx1.16774@news.uswest.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:53:51 -0600
Organization: Gemini Communications, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandem
From: Richard S. Pope <rsp@geminic.com>
Subject: Re: 6530 emulator for Windows NT

Craig,

My company is the developer for a Java-based solution which has many features
including strong encryption.  See http://www.tantau.com/Nonstop/j6530.asp

For a traditional Windows app, I recommend CTT http://www.cail.com

Rich

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:49:02 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.94.112.2
From: Art Rice <arice@ue.itug.org>
Subject: Re: Tandem 6530 terminal programming

On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 19:05:06 -0400, QjoeW.EpetersonR@Tmindspring.Ycom
wrote:

>On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 16:14:36 GMT, MSage <michael_sage@my-deja.com>
>spewed forth:
>
>>You can probably talk to your sales rep.  Ours managed to find a copy
>>and sent me a copy of it (I, in turn, have copied the copy and have
>>stored it in a "nice safe place"  :-).
>
>I wonder why Tandem doesn't make the 6530 programming documentation
>more readily available for customers and s/w vendors?  Maybe, someday,
>if that project I've heard rumors of to build a GUI-supportive
>terminal controller (ala some X-windows sort of setup) ever becomes a
>real product, they can expect customer to stop needing 6530 info.  But
>in the meantime ... ??
>```
>Joe


They do make it available to Alliance Partners.

Crystal Point, Future Soft, Cail, Casemaker, ACI, among others all
have the specs and signed "Non-Disclosure" documents.
--
Art Rice   **
Special Data Processing Corporation
--------------------------------------
All opinions expressed are mine and do
not reflect the views of my employer.


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Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:06:30 GMT
From: Joachim Schmitz <nospam.schmitz@hp.com>
Subject: Re: openssh

<jmonge01@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:1133888979.781375.92370@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> I am installing SSH on a Tandem S-78000.  The README_FLOSS file tells
> me to change "RhostsAuthentication' to 'yes'.  When I look at the
> 'sshd_config' file, it has a comment that says '# rhosts authentication
> should not be used'.  Which should I believe?  Should it only be
> changed in 'ssh_config' and not 'sshd_config'?

Just follow the README_FLOSS for now and try to get it to work that way. 
Later you can try to break it 8-) by making changes to the config...

The hint not to use rhosts authentication comes as part of the openssh 
package, it hasn't been changed as part of the port to OSS. And rhosts-based
authentication isn't the most secure option, but I don't believe the OSS 
port supports another one. Maybe Tom Bates can shed a light on us here.

Bye, Jojo 


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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:33:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Manu <withmanu@gmail.com>
Subject: Capture the terminal text

Guys,

Is there any way to capture the test that currently available in the
screen to a file or variable ?

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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:14:22 -0800
From: Keith Dick <KeithDick@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Capture the terminal text

Manu wrote:
> Guys,
>
> Is there any way to capture the test that currently available in the
> screen to a file or variable ?

Depending on which terminal emulator you are using, you probably can do a
typical copy and paste to get the text from the screen into a PC file.
Also, I believe at least some of the terminal emulators have a way to log
all the interaction to a file, but you have to turn that on before doing the
things you want to capture.

But I imagine that isn't what you are asking for.  I think you want a TACL
command that will capture what is on the screen.

I don't remember any TACL command that does that.  The closest thing I can
think of to that is the EDIT ADD BLOCK command, but it probably isn't quite
what you want.  I have never tried this from within a TACL macro, but I have
done it interactively.  I think it would work from within a macro.  If you
execute the following command:

  EDIT file!;add block;exit

(Note, that is EDIT, not TEDIT.)  This will start the EDIT program, create
the new Edit file named "file", switch the terminal to block mode, keeping
all the text on the screen, then wait for you to press any function key.  If
at that point, you move the cursor to the bottom right corner of the screen,
then press any function key, EDIT will read the contents of the screen,
store it into "file", switch the terminal back to conversational mode, and
exit.  Since this requires operator action to move the cursor and press a
function key, it probably is not quite what you want.  Unless you are
watching the terminal carefully, it isn't very obvious when this command
gets executed, so you could have some trouble knowing when to do your part
by moving the cursor and pushing a function key.  You could have the macro
write a prompt to the screen before running the above command, but that
prompt would cause some of the screen contents to be lost since they would
scroll up off the top of
the screen.

I remember that when doing this intereactively, EDIT displayed its normal
startup line and a line about creating the new edit file, which caused the
top two lines to scroll off the screen.  I imagine that would also happen if
you used the command from inside a macro.

Given what the ADD BLOCK command can do, there probably is a sequence of
control characters that you could send to a terminal from within a TACL
macro via #outputv that would get the terminal to do something similar to
what ADD BLOCK does without requiring operator interaction.  I think you
could send control codes to move the cursor to the bottom, read the screen,
and switch back to conversational mode without waiting for a function key
press.  I would have to study the 6530 terminal's programming manual to see
what control codes would do that (assuming it is possible).  Maybe someone
else already knows the proper control character sequence and can answer the
question without research.  Or maybe there is a little utility program
someone can give you that does the whole operation, including storing the
text into a file.

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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 22:51:31 -0800 (PST)
From: MicroTech <henry.ko.norman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Capture the terminal text

On Dec 29 2009, 8:33 pm, Manu <withmanu@gmail.com> wrote...


Hello Manu,

It's been a while, you may have got what you needed already...

Well, if not, the TAL source below does what you want. It was
originally written in 1984, and I never bothered to "enlighten" the
code, but it should run fine on any NonStop server. To compile:
TAL / IN source / object; SUPPRESS.

Cheers,

Henry Norman
MicroTech Consulting
http://groups.google.com/group/microtech_software


?PAGE"Capture 65** terminal screen data"
--
-- This program writes the contents of the 65** screen buffer to the OUT file
--
-- Henry Norman, Tandem Computers, Western SSG -- Freely distributable
--
?NOCODE, NOICODE, NOIMAP, NOLMAP
?SYMBOLS, INSPECT, SAVEABEND
LITERAL
   lCR  = 13, -- Line separator ("carriage return") in 65** term
buffer
   lESC = 27; -- ASCII escape character
INT
  .buf[ 0:1920/2-1 ] := [ "$RECEIVE", 8*[ "  " ] ],
  .oldmode[ 0:1 ] := -1,
  .lbuf[ 0:1920/2-1 ],
   count,
   term,
   out;
STRING
  .sbuf := @buf'<<'1,
  .s := @lbuf'<<'1;
?NOLIST,SOURCE$SYSTEM.SYSTEM.EXTDECS(
? ABEND
? CLOSE
? DEBUG
? FILEINFO
? MYTERM
? OPEN
? READ
? SETMODE
? STOP
? WRITE
? WRITEREAD
? )
?LIST

PROC writeLines;
BEGIN
STRING
  .line := @sbuf,
  .eol;

-- Loop until buffer exhausted:
WHILE ( 2+2 = 4 ) DO
   BEGIN
   SCAN line UNTIL lCR -> @eol;
   -- Exit when stopper hit:
   IF ( $CARRY ) THEN
      RETURN;
   s':='line FOR ( count := @eol'-'@line );
   WRITE( out, lbuf, count );
   @line := @eol[ 1 ];
   END;
END; -- PROC writeLines()

PROC errorExit;
BEGIN
-- Reset terminal mode if necessary:
IF ( oldmode <> -1 ) THEN
   SETMODE( term, 8, oldmode, oldmode[ 1 ] );
ABEND();
END; -- PROC errorExit()

PROC S0000V03_capture_20010413 MAIN;
BEGIN
-- Open $receive:
OPEN ( buf, term );
IF ( <> ) THEN
   errorExit();

-- Read the startup message:
READ( term, buf, 200 );
IF ( <> ) THEN
   errorExit();
CLOSE( term );

-- Open the OUT file (may be a TACL variable):
OPEN( buf[ 21 ], out );
IF ( <> ) THEN
   errorExit();

-- Extract terminal name:
MYTERM( buf );
OPEN( buf, term ); -- Open the terminal
IF ( <> ) THEN
   errorExit();

-- Switch to block mode:
SETMODE( term, 8, 1, 1, oldmode );
IF ( <> ) THEN
   errorExit();

-- Unlock the keyboard:
sbuf':='[ %33, "b" ];
WRITE( term, buf, 2 );
IF ( <> ) THEN
   errorExit();

-- Wait for any fkey to be hit:
READ( term, buf, 4 );
IF ( <> ) THEN
   errorExit();

-- Escape sequence (ESC"<") to read terminal buffer:
sbuf':='[ lESC, "<" ];
WRITEREAD( term, buf, 2, 1920, count );
IF ( <>  ) THEN
   errorExit();

-- Insert a "SCAN stopper" in termbuffer:
sbuf[ count ] := 0;

-- Return to previous terminal mode:
SETMODE( term, 8, oldmode, oldmode[ 1 ] );
CLOSE ( term );

-- Split term buffer into separate lines:
writeLines();

-- All done:
CLOSE( out );
STOP();
END; -- PROC S0000V03_capture_20010413 MAIN

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