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Tom Jennings tomj at wps.com
Sun Mar 6 21:10:14 CST 2005


On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, Michael Sokolov wrote:

> Have you ever heard of the word SOVEREIGNTY?  I run my own servers for
> everything because I exercise my right to be totally independent from the
> outside world.  I'll keep running when the rest of the world explodes in
> the thermonuclear holocaust.

That's not the issue. I agree with you -- we have our own hardware
machine in a rack in a colo with 3 * 100megabits to three
different ASs. Our own nameservers and all. Hell my friend that
allows this has his own /16.

The issue is that in the year 2005 yuo need to have a
substantial-enough connection to be reliable. Expectations have
risen along with file and mail size. I can't speak for Jay, but
it's clear that classiccmp is moving as much mail as a netcom.com
or aol.com was 10 years ago. If my, or your, site can't keep up
with it, it's no longer acceptable.

Fairness has nothing to do with it.

>  It is extremely hypocritical
> of you to shut me out because I run my entire operation on CLASSIC hardware
> with CLASSIC software in the CLASSIC manner, using business practices of
> the CLASSIC computing era, exactly as it was done on ARPA Internet in 1980s.

All you need is 99% uptime on port 25 and you're in the game.


That said, I also think the two tries within 35 minutes won't cut it.
Dead paths, routers and hosts still happens. THe 4-day thing is a good
idea.

Personally I don't care if mail is delayed; it sure beats not
gettign mail.

oo



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