Spam Alert: Re: OT and getting further OT all the time! Re: Off-topic, but interesting (Fiorina fired)

[Randy McLaughlin]

From: "Computer Collector Newsletter" <news at computercollector.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 6:56 PM
>>>>> if you're trying to convince us that journalistic integrity has a
> significant effect on Media, shouldn't you try to exhibit behavior
> serving as an example of that,
>
> My professional integrity doesn't preclude me from pointing out idiocy on 
> a
> hobby mailing list.
>
> --- Eric Smith <eric at brouhaha.com> wrote:
>
>> Evan replied to me:
>> > Wishing I didn't have to say this: Anyone who feels the way you do is a
>> > fucking moron.
>>
>> You don't have to say it.  In fact, if you're trying to convince people
>> of the merits of your position, personal attacks are likely to be
>> counterproductive.  Even Fox News, which you have derided (and rightly
>> so), usually does not usually stoop to that.
>>
>> I pointed out the generally accepted "follow the money" argument that
>> explains how things work in any business or industry, and this is the
>> best that you can refute it?  If Media really doesn't work the way that
>> I (and others) are claiming, wouldn't you have a better chance of
>> convincing us through the use of rational arguments?  At the very least,
>> if you're trying to convince us that journalistic integrity has a
>> significant effect on Media, shouldn't you try to exhibit behavior
>> serving as an example of that, rather than as a counterexample?
>>
>> Eric

Lawyers are extremely lucky to not be associated with the media too much.  I 
know many lawyers and many in the "media" after shaking hands with either I 
check my wallet.  Generally speaking after shaking hands with a lawyer it is 
still there (not always).

I can swear that people that believe "lawyers are the least trust-worthy" 
are wrong!

I recently saw a report about Bush's plan for "privatization of Social 
Security", the democratic party report said that the gain in retirement 
income was expected to be around $2000/year, which was much less than Bush's 
people were claiming.  I was confused by the point that the media was 
focused on the size of the paper bag the money was coming in rather than the 
fact that there was a bag of money being offered.


Randy