PDP11/55 sells on Ebay for 5K$ - was it really the fastest 11?
Jerome H. Fine
jhfinexgs2 at compsys.to
Mon Apr 18 14:42:39 CDT 2005
>Lyle Bickley wrote:
>>>>Copyright 1978 by Digital Equipment Corporation
>>>>Page 408
>>>>--------
>>>>Model Basic Instructions Floating Point
>>>> Inst. per second* Inst. per second
>>>>-------------------------------------------
>>>>11/70 36 671
>>>>11/55 41 725
>>>>* Relative to 11/03
>>>>No brainer - the 11/55 wins hands down.
>>>>
>>Sorry, while for those metric the 55 was a tad faster, for IO the 11/70 was
>>massively faster. At that time to do large arrays of data you needed lots
>>of fast IO to disks as you could only works with part of an array at any
>>time due too addressing limitations of the PDP11.
>>
>>When you measure systems, measure the system not just the cpu.
>>
>System performance is application dependent.
>
>If you were going to do FORTRAN FP, the 11/55 would be a good choice. This
>specific 11/55 it was used as part of a flight simulator - a perfect
>application for the high performance (CPU) 11/55.
>
>If you were running a RSTS/E shop with lots of I/O (as I did many years ago),
>your choice would have been an 11/70 - for it's massbus I/O capabilities,
>good integer/FP performance, and memory capacity.
>
>So saying it is the "fastest blinkenlights" system is certainly valid in the
>context of its application - and in the manner that "Computer Engineering"
>documented its performance.
>
Jerome Fine replies:
Does anyone have any benchmarks programs and
results (so they can be used with other
configurations) that have been run on various
PDP-11 systems? It would be helpful if the
non-DEC CPUs and emulators could be included.
If possible, benchmarks for RT-11 are required.
Source code would be satisfactory.
As far as I know, the PDP-11/93 (or the PDP-11/94)
was supposed to be the fastest DEC PDP-11 system.
But at least three other hardware replacements,
including QED and Mentec models were available.
When emulators are included, I understand that E11
is the fastest system (when run on the fastest P4)
being able to achieve at least 30 times a PDP-11/93
and perhaps up to 75 or even 100 times a PDP-11/93.
I have run E11 on a 750 MHz Pentium III and speeds
of about 15 times a PDP-11/93 were achieved. While
I hoped that a 3 GHz P4 would be 4 times as fast,
I was a bit disappointed with the limited testing
I have been able to attempt - I seem to find that
the P4 is only about 2.5 times that Pentium III when
I run an RT-11 benchmark under E11 under Win98SE.
One of the reasons that E11 is so fast is that for
benchmarks which require only a small capacity of
disk space (less than 1 GByte), the ability of the
operating system to cache the disk space used could
make the I/O portion of the benchmark even faster
than the CPU portion when the Pentium system has
sufficient RAM.
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
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